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The complete HD (Blu-ray/HD-DVD) back-up thread.
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15. October 2008 @ 19:44 |
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When will there be a working method to add menu to AVCHD? Or is there one already.
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15. October 2008 @ 23:29 |
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Originally posted by NexGen76:
When will there be a working method to add menu to AVCHD? Or is there one already.
I don't think AVCHD is capable of menus, however you can author to Blu-ray using Sonic Scenarist, this software is professional grade and fairly complicated to use to the novice. I'm sure other brands of commercial software offer menu support too.
Personally, if you incorporate menus that is just a waste of valuable disc space that could be used for video/audio.
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Reencoding to one disc. I couldn't quite tell if or how much of a difference one of my encoded discs quality vs. a store bought blu-ray.
Does anyone know how to copy a avchd blu-ray compliant disc that I made using tsmuxer, megui, etc? This is the disc created with the BDMV and certificate folders.
I want to copy it and was not sure if I should use Nero Burning Rom DVD ISO or DVD Rom UDF.
Thank you.
I'm assuming you already have your new video stream (Blu-ray compliant), and audio muxed together to the Blu-ray structure. Now you can use whatever burning application you like, just make sure it burned using the UDF 2.5 format. IMGBurn (freeware) is OK, I use Cyberlink (came with my BD burner), I have had issues with Nero burning D/L DVDs.
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16. October 2008 @ 05:21 |
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Sorry, I might not have been clear. I have a dvd9 disc already created with the BDMV and certificate folder on the disc. I want to copy the disc. Thanks.
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Originally posted by murph99:
Sorry, I might not have been clear. I have a dvd9 disc already created with the BDMV and certificate folder on the disc. I want to copy the disc. Thanks.
DVD Decrypter to create an ISO image of your disc and then burn using DVD Decrypter or ImgBurn.
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17. October 2008 @ 22:46 |
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Thank you.
What is the best method for converting a wmv file to bdmv folder to burn on dvd9?
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21. October 2008 @ 01:45 |
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im really a noob in editing videos. sorry but i cant understand the desciption on each softwares(i mean im really a noob). So what software to use base on the given links to edit a 1920 x 800 to 1920 x 1080? i need it to remove the green bar.
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21. October 2008 @ 02:51 |
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Originally posted by v2s13:
im really a noob in editing videos. sorry but i cant understand the desciption on each softwares(i mean im really a noob). So what software to use base on the given links to edit a 1920 x 800 to 1920 x 1080? i need it to remove the green bar.
There's a link at the very beginning of this thread to a step by step guide and all of the tools you need to do it.
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26. October 2008 @ 12:15 |
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Ryu,
Do you know how (besides using Scenarist) to enable subs automatically?
Of topic,
I purchased an HD audio receiver a couple of weeks ago... BD's (and some HD DVDs) are totally different now.
Before I purchased it I listened to one of my favorite BDs, (Dave Matthews Live at Radio City) in just AC3 @ 640kb/s, now with TrueHD 96/24 @ 7mb/s... holy cow what a difference!
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27. October 2008 @ 13:43 |
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A big thank you to you all(especially rye77/odin24/str8pryd) for putting this thread together! I just finished reading it in its entirety as well as the Guide. You guys are absolutely amazing and your efforts are greatly appreciated! I just have a few small lingering questions that were not made totally clear yet, at least to me:
1)It has been stated that ONLY a rate of 24fps,720/1080P is allowed by Blu-ray. I can understand this for 'feature films', but, is there no way to use my 1080i 30fps HDV footage without having to de-interlace it first? I know that most AVCHD cams film in 1080i 30fps as well, and that is obviously allowed in the AVCHD standard without need to de-interlace/change frame rate. Why would it not be allowed in the BR standard? Is not the AVCHD standard a 'branch' of the BR standard, having MORE restrictions on it than the BR standard? IF it CANNOT be done with BR, would one then be able to use the 1080i footage ONLY if an AVCHD disc is made? If so, how to make one? Is it only a slight difference in file structure?
2)It was asked early in this thread but not answered; That AVCHD Me program is ingenious...but, if one is using an SD card, say 8Gb in size, and one aims to put an 8GB BR format structure movie on it(prepped as you guys describe), can it be done if the movie m2ts exceeds the 4GB limit of the FAT32 system? If so, does that mean that basically one is limited to a 4GB BR movie maximum on such media?
3)This was touched upon briefly by Ryu77 and I was hoping to confirm; if say I want to fit a 32 GB BR movie disc onto a 25GB one, keeping EVERYTHING in tact except 'shrinking' the main movie to shave off the necessary 7ish Gigs, can this simply be done by re-encoding that main feature and then just replacing the newly muxed m2ts stream in the place of the original, larger one, keeping the name the same of course? Do I need to keep ALL the streams present in my new remux, or can I simply keep just the video and the one audio that I want? Will omitting the previously present streams(different language audio tracks, subs, etc) cause the disc to be unplayable?
Guys, that's all the questions I have after days of pouring over your awesome efforts. Thanks in advance for your help, and I look forward to MAJOR experimentation in the days to come using your advice/knowledge, free time permitting!
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27. October 2008 @ 14:08 |
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Originally posted by spexman:
A big thank you to you all(especially rye77/odin24/str8pryd) for putting this thread together! I just finished reading it in its entirety as well as the Guide. You guys are absolutely amazing and your efforts are greatly appreciated! I just have a few small lingering questions that were not made totally clear yet, at least to me:
1)It has been stated that ONLY a rate of 24fps,720/1080P is allowed by Blu-ray. I can understand this for 'feature films', but, is there no way to use my 1080i 30fps HDV footage without having to de-interlace it first? I know that most AVCHD cams film in 1080i 30fps as well, and that is obviously allowed in the AVCHD standard without need to de-interlace/change frame rate. Why would it not be allowed in the BR standard? Is not the AVCHD standard a 'branch' of the BR standard, having MORE restrictions on it than the BR standard? IF it CANNOT be done with BR, would one then be able to use the 1080i footage ONLY if an AVCHD disc is made? If so, how to make one? Is it only a slight difference in file structure? You should be able to play 1080i @ 30fps no problem in AVCHD. As for making the actual strucure, use either the software that came with the camcorder, or use tsMuxeR.
2)It was asked early in this thread but not answered; That AVCHD Me program is ingenious...but, if one is using an SD card, say 8Gb in size, and one aims to put an 8GB BR format structure movie on it(prepped as you guys describe), can it be done if the movie m2ts exceeds the 4GB limit of the FAT32 system? If so, does that mean that basically one is limited to a 4GB BR movie maximum on such media? Yes and no. If your file is larger than 4GB you would need to mux to Blu-ray using tsMuxeR using the Split & Cut feature, splitting to 4GB chunks. This would apply to any size, even a full BD. One issue with this though is there is a slight pause between each 4GB chunks, there might be a way to "fix" the streams so there is no pause, but it involes a lot of remuxing and appending, the more files the more complicated it gets. I'm in the middle of testing this out.
3)This was touched upon briefly by Ryu77 and I was hoping to confirm; if say I want to fit a 32 GB BR movie disc onto a 25GB one, keeping EVERYTHING in tact except 'shrinking' the main movie to shave off the necessary 7ish Gigs, can this simply be done by re-encoding that main feature and then just replacing the newly muxed m2ts stream in the place of the original, larger one, keeping the name the same of course? Do I need to keep ALL the streams present in my new remux, or can I simply keep just the video and the one audio that I want? Will omitting the previously present streams(different language audio tracks, subs, etc) cause the disc to be unplayable? Unfortunately you cannot shrink and replace keeping menus and extras. You could only remux just the main feature, audio stream(s), and subs. If you really want to keep all of the rest you would need to re-author the entire disc using advanced methods, such as Sonic Scenarist... which is way beyond me.
Guys, that's all the questions I have after days of pouring over your awesome efforts. Thanks in advance for your help, and I look forward to MAJOR experimentation in the days to come using your advice/knowledge, free time permitting!
See my comments above.
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27. October 2008 @ 14:25 |
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Odin24, my fellow Canadian, thanks for that fast response!
A few follow up questions.
1)on the first question, you are telling me to use TSmuxer to create the AVCHD; but there is no option for that; only 'Create Blu-ray disk'. Is that what you mean? I thought that a BD-5/9 is different than an AVCHD, as per this link http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1095653&postcount=1
Are you using BD-5/9 and AVCHD interchangably? I don't mean to be 'anal', just trying to keep things straight/understandable. Is the only difference between the 2 file structure?
2)For the second point, are you saying that I would need to use the cut feature to create 2 separate blu ray disc structures, or it creates only one structure, but splits the m2ts main movie file only? I don't mind a slight pause; it is fine by me.
3-thanks, you answered it nicely.
Thanks again!
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27. October 2008 @ 14:44 |
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Originally posted by spexman:
Odin24, my fellow Canadian, thanks for that fast response!
A few follow up questions.
1)on the first question, you are telling me to use TSmuxer to create the AVCHD; but there is no option for that; only 'Create Blu-ray disk'. Is that what you mean? I thought that a BD-5/9 is different than an AVCHD, as per this link http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1095653&postcount=1 I did mean Blu-ray. Honestly I have never worked with camcorder files, but I pretty sure tsMuxeR will do the trick. If not you can try AVCHD-ME on your Blu-ray output. Which player are you using?
Are you using BD-5/9 and AVCHD interchangably? I don't mean to be 'anal', just trying to keep things straight/understandable. Is the only difference between the 2 file structure? I normally do BD rips to DVD9 using tsMuxeR as the final muxing. I have also used AVCHD-ME for USB (after tsMuxeR), as for the traditional AVCHD structure I cannot say for sure what the difference is.
2)For the second point, are you saying that I would need to use the cut feature to create 2 separate blu ray disc structures, or it creates only one structure, but splits the m2ts main movie file only? I don't mind a slight pause; it is fine by me. One structure, several m2ts files within the the structure.
3-thanks, you answered it nicely.
Thanks again!
Canadian eh? Where are you from? More comments above.
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27. October 2008 @ 15:04 |
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Odin24, here is the scoop; I currently use eac3to and VirtualDub to create XVID-HD AVI files from my BR discs, such that I can play these in certain compatible DVD players(Avel Linkplayer). The output is stunning, I too put 1080p on DVD9 and 720P on DVD5. I have purchased a few of these units so that my kids and wife can watch in their respective rooms, as well, and we keep one format between us. I am very happy with XVID quality; I have a large projector setup and the quality loss is virtually nothing, much to my shock and disbelief! My first thought was, 'this low bit rate XVID has NO business looking so good', but, it does, as you are aware.
I do not YET have a BR player; only a BR LG burner, so I watch BR via HTPC. BUT, I cannot get 'acceptable' quality on the HD audio codecs out of my HTPC, SO, (as you ironically posted in your previous post, the HD audio quality out of these BR discs can be AWESOME!)I want to purchase a player with 7.1 analog output(I only have 7.1 analog in, NOT HDMI and am VERY happy with my receiver and do NOT wish to change it if I need not have to), and so am looking at the Sony 550 and the Panny 55. There are pros and cons to both, but am leaning towards the Panny because of that SD slot, which adds more flexibility(especially now with that AVCHD Me program!); apparently the sound and picture quality is stunning on both, obviously my main concern. Also, I hope to make a TON of BD5/9 discs to see if they ARE compatible with these units...
OK, sorry to be long winded. BUT, when I came onto your-guys' thread here, that one CAN make BD-5 and BD-9, I was giddy!
I can now switch my AVI over to BR.
AND, I was hoping that I can preserve the HD audio end of it; I know that will reduce precious space for the video, but on a less-than-2 hour movie, on a DVD9, it MAY still be ok(have you tried?). I have yet to try anything; I have just read and read and read all the info you guys have posted! I try to educate myself, and then go off and test it before I purchase the appropriate hardware! Thanks to you guys, I now can!
The ONE issue I have with my XVIDs is occasional banding, especially evident in sky/sunset/underwater shots. Regardless of how much bit rate I throw at it, regardless of all the advice in the Doom9 forum, I could not make this banding disappear. I am hopeful that the X264 encoder will be better against banding.
I have not yet used X264 because my Linkplayers are NOT compatible with this newer codec, so I must stick with XVID.
I live in Toronto...how about yourself?
Thanks for answering all my questions...the only thing left for me is to get in their, dirty my hands and try.
I will keep you posted, and I hope I don't have any 'nagging' issues so that I won't need to 'bother' you.
THanks again, you have been very kind!
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27. October 2008 @ 15:33 |
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Originally posted by spexman:
I do not YET have a BR player; only a BR LG burner, so I watch BR via HTPC. BUT, I cannot get 'acceptable' quality on the HD audio codecs out of my HTPC, SO, (as you ironically posted in your previous post, the HD audio quality out of these BR discs can be AWESOME!)I want to purchase a player with 7.1 analog output(I only have 7.1 analog in, NOT HDMI and am VERY happy with my receiver and do NOT wish to change it if I need not have to), and so am looking at the Sony 550 and the Panny 55. There are pros and cons to both, but am leaning towards the Panny because of that SD slot, which adds more flexibility(especially now with that AVCHD Me program!); apparently the sound and picture quality is stunning on both, obviously my main concern. Also, I hope to make a TON of BD5/9 discs to see if they ARE compatible with these units...
OK, sorry to be long winded. BUT, when I came onto your-guys' thread here, that one CAN make BD-5 and BD-9, I was giddy!
I can now switch my AVI over to BR.
I can't be certain but I thought I read somewhere that the Panny's are dropping AVCHD support. Not 100% sure though. If the Sony has a USB port that can play media you may want to choose Sony. I sometimes hook up my 320GB HDD (with a 50GB FAT32 partition) to my PS3 with a whole BD rip on it, using the AVCHD-ME and Split & Cut mehtod I mentioned earlier. This is handy because I don't need to waste DVDs if I do not need to. I know for sure the Sony 550 will support the type of discs we are making, plus it has decoding of all HD audio codecs and 7.1 multi-out.
Originally posted by spexman:
AND, I was hoping that I can preserve the HD audio end of it; I know that will reduce precious space for the video, but on a less-than-2 hour movie, on a DVD9, it MAY still be ok(have you tried?). I have yet to try anything; I have just read and read and read all the info you guys have posted! I try to educate myself, and then go off and test it before I purchase the appropriate hardware! Thanks to you guys, I now can!
Unfortunately, this may not be a good idea. These HD audio files can be as large as 4-5GB, depending on the codec. I just did an HDDVD->BD concersion, which had TrueHD. The movie was 1hr45min, the TrueHD file was 3.5GB, not leaving much room for the video on a DVD9, thank goodness my LG burner came with a blank BD-RE. A 2hr movie with LPCM file (24 bit)6GB!!!
Originally posted by spexman:
The ONE issue I have with my XVIDs is occasional banding, especially evident in sky/sunset/underwater shots. Regardless of how much bit rate I throw at it, regardless of all the advice in the Doom9 forum, I could not make this banding disappear. I am hopeful that the X264 encoder will be better against banding.
I have not yet used X264 because my Linkplayers are NOT compatible with this newer codec, so I must stick with XVID.
I live in Toronto...how about yourself?
I only use x264.exe with Ryu77's BD profile, I have not experienced this problem... ever.
Originally posted by spexman:
Thanks for answering all my questions...the only thing left for me is to get in their, dirty my hands and try.
I will keep you posted, and I hope I don't have any 'nagging' issues so that I won't need to 'bother' you.
THanks again, you have been very kind!
The fun part begins... the dirtying of the hands, careful, once you master this it becomes addictive. You'll want to recode everything!
Originally posted by spexman:
I live in Toronto...how about yourself?
4hrs down the 401 from you, in Windsor!!!
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27. October 2008 @ 16:51 |
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odin24,
Thanks for that.
I have combed the Panny and Sony manuals; the Panny DOES support AVCHC via SD card slot; the Sony, though having a USB port, does NOT allow playback through it; what a bummer! It is only for BD-Live purposes. Thus my leaning towards the Panny.
Good to know the X264 encoder is 'banding-less'.
It is unfortunate that that TrueHD file is so large; you are right, it COULD make things difficult; though I would love to have the 'lossless audio codec' on board, it is foolish to do so at the expense of 'losing' video quality....more hand dirtying I guess!
I don't mind the addiction to encoding, but, my wife certainly will!
Hey, is there any way to know before hand what the file size of the TrueHD/DTS-HDMA stream is? Or do I HAVE to demux first?
I like your patitioning of HDD idea(combined with the 4GB splitting and AVCHD-Me, that is why I asked you the questions I did in the first place!)--great minds think alike!), but, I am NOT aware of ANY BR players that support a USB in of such HDD, that also decode ALL audio formats out of 7.1 analog; IF you are aware of one, PLEASE let me know!(I am not a gamer, but would get the PS3 in a heartbeat IF it only had 7.1 analog stinking out!)
I too do have a BD-RE as well and can use that for larger files just like you are doing; however, I like to archive and it is simply not cost effective on these babies; for 'temporary' stuff, it's great. BUt not yet for archiving; that is why I was hoping DVD9s would do with lossless audio...
...although it would have been nice if you were closer along the 401, you may have gotten sick of me, so, the distance is not such a bad thing; I'll make a note to pass your way next time I am Windsor bound.
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge to a newbie.
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Originally posted by spexman:
odin24,
Thanks for that.
I have combed the Panny and Sony manuals; the Panny DOES support AVCHC via SD card slot; the Sony, though having a USB port, does NOT allow playback through it; what a bummer! It is only for BD-Live purposes. Thus my leaning towards the Panny.
Good to know the X264 encoder is 'banding-less'.
It is unfortunate that that TrueHD file is so large; you are right, it COULD make things difficult; though I would love to have the 'lossless audio codec' on board, it is foolish to do so at the expense of 'losing' video quality....more hand dirtying I guess!
I don't mind the addiction to encoding, but, my wife certainly will!
Hey, is there any way to know before hand what the file size of the TrueHD/DTS-HDMA stream is? Or do I HAVE to demux first?
I like your patitioning of HDD idea(combined with the 4GB splitting and AVCHD-Me, that is why I asked you the questions I did in the first place!)--great minds think alike!), but, I am NOT aware of ANY BR players that support a USB in of such HDD, that also decode ALL audio formats out of 7.1 analog; IF you are aware of one, PLEASE let me know!(I am not a gamer, but would get the PS3 in a heartbeat IF it only had 7.1 analog stinking out!)
I too do have a BD-RE as well and can use that for larger files just like you are doing; however, I like to archive and it is simply not cost effective on these babies; for 'temporary' stuff, it's great. BUt not yet for archiving; that is why I was hoping DVD9s would do with lossless audio...
...although it would have been nice if you were closer along the 401, you may have gotten sick of me, so, the distance is not such a bad thing; I'll make a note to pass your way next time I am Windsor bound.
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge to a newbie.
Well, I too like to archive my movies. Since I purchased my HD audio reciver this is what I usually do... If I cannot watch my BD rental before it's due date.
1. Recode the movie to fit on a DVD9 with regular DTS audio (regardless of the source, TrueHD, PCM, etc).
2. Remux the new video with the HD audio from the BD, burn to my BD-RE. I'll watch this copy.
3. If I wish to archive, I still have the recoded video, I then remux with the DTS track I created, which still sounds excellent, to DVD9.
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EXACTLY my conclusion!!!!
I will be doing the EXACT same thing!
I will keep you posted on progress...
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Originally posted by spexman:
EXACTLY my conclusion!!!!
I will be doing the EXACT same thing!
I will keep you posted on progress...
Just ask if you need help.
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Thanks for extending your help; chances are, I will need it and for sure now I will ask.
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I have a wmv file that I am trying to convert to burn as avchd blu-ray compliant onto a dvd9 disc. I used MatroskaSplitter's gdsmux to build a mkv vc-1 file from the wmv file. I loaded the file in tsmuxer. Do I need to change the frame rate or can I just select create blu ray and start muxing?
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Originally posted by murph99:
I have a wmv file that I am trying to convert to burn as avchd blu-ray compliant onto a dvd9 disc. I used MatroskaSplitter's gdsmux to build a mkv vc-1 file from the wmv file. I loaded the file in tsmuxer. Do I need to change the frame rate or can I just select create blu ray and start muxing?
You need to remove the 3:2 pulldown, mux to m2ts and remove the pulldown if id gives the option. Then recode the m2ts if neccesary.
Where'd you get the software?
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
jdobbs from the Doom9 forum has created a little app to correct the .clpi file so that seeking will work more smoothly. This is a little command line app that simply needs to be pointed to the 00001.clpi in the Blu-ray folder and it will correct it.
http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?at...5200528
I'm in the midst of recoding now, I'll be trying this tomorrow after the muxing stage. Have you tested on your PS3/SA yet?
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Originally posted by Ryu77:
jdobbs from the Doom9 forum has created a little app to correct the .clpi file so that seeking will work more smoothly. This is a little command line app that simply needs to be pointed to the 00001.clpi in the Blu-ray folder and it will correct it.
http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?at...5200528
For those who are not comfortable with CLI, GZZ has created a GUI for the jdobbs fixclpi app. Click here to download it. It comes complete with the jdobbs app in the same folder. Just run the GUI, point it to the .clpi file [BD Files\BDMV\CLIPINF\00001.clpi], and click "Fix It"...
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