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15. February 2009 @ 14:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by greensman:
*L@@KS for time on Daytona so I can call Russ to ask questions. :P*

ON topic. ;)

I'm looking at one of these drives to replace one I'll use for the parents "new" build. (which means I'm pulling a 250 or 320 to use for them) Does anyone have any experience with these drives or have info that could be useful. More than likely it will end up as a storage drive so NO worries about an OS drive atm. ;) tia...

link to HDD's

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The only one I've come across so far is the WD 640GB drive.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218
It was in a customer's computer. It was very quiet, fast and ran cool!

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15. February 2009 @ 14:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The 3 Seagates I have are the 7200.10 models so the "problems" you guys are eluding too aren't an issue that I cans see. ;)

I'm leaning toward these 2 models now.. linky to WD HDD's Even tho it's $5 more I think the 32MB model with 5 years warranty is the way to go. :) Any comments?

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They're still noisy beggars though. I think 7200.11s are when Seagates became quiet.



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I dont know about the AALS but the AAKS should be fine. And I use the word SHOULD very strongly, LOL. I have a way of hexxing things. :D The AALS could be intended for something, Perhaps raid.



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I did read a lot of reports about Seagate, mostly the problamatic one's were the 1TB, constantly freezing, even the smaller Seagate Barracuda had some issues, many said needed someking kind of firmware updates etc. a little to complicated for me to figure out.

Than after creaky explained things further to me I decited to stick with the WD's, I did want to go with the bigger drives but Russ made a good point, asked if I really needed anything over 250gb, hell I got a 160 in my HP after several years thats only like 1/3 full, plus he mentioned how anything from 500gb and up had more disc's and sometimes can cause vibrations among themselves, more than likely it's better to have a second drive, all that made sense to me so I went with the WD 250, actually I should have bought a second one instead of waiting and any space issue would have been solved on the spot, plus the fact a second one as a backup makes sense also, I'll get one soon.
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Thanks Russ... and as usual Sammy you cease to amaze me with your hearing prowess. ;) Of course there is so much noise in my house that a P-51 Mustang would have to fight for "listening time".... hehehee. :P

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15. February 2009 @ 18:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the link creaky; I remember that now lol. If I remember correctly my 7200.11 is the loud annoying one while the 7200.10 is the decent one. Either way though I'd still get WD at this point in time.


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15. February 2009 @ 19:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
these are the 2 hdd's im running right now. a WD 500gb and a seagate 250gb.and i have no problems with them at all. cant hear either one of them, and would recomend either or.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136149
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148262

on another topic.
i have xp home 32bit. if i wanted to go with a 64bit do i need a complete reinstall or will it install over what i have now?

and is it easy to find windows XP 64bit? ive looked at microcenter,officemax and depot none of the mhave the 64bit OS.
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In my opinion, I would wait on Windows 7 64bit. I didnt experience too many problems with it. Infact, I believe the only problem I did encounter was, Google desktop doesnt support 64bit yet. I just wish everyone would jump on the 64bit bandwagon. 32bit is obsolete, ISNT IT???



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sound like a smart thing to do OM7,but windows 7 isnt due out for a few months, and i havent heard anything about a 64bit version of it yet.
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
and i havent heard anything about a 64bit version of it yet

I was running it. VERY smooth I must admit. Smoother than XP in my opinion. Though they need to work out some IE 8 bugs. I cant wait til more programmers/softwares support 64bit. Though, I only had one sour install. And I believe it might have been due to my FORCE installing it.

Surely you mean the release of 64 bit. Wont it be released along side 32bit???



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Originally posted by cincyrob:
sound like a smart thing to do OM7,but windows 7 isnt due out for a few months, and i havent heard anything about a 64bit version of it yet.

Rob,
When I downloaded it a few months ago, you had a choice of 32 or 64 bit, so I'm pretty sure they have one! Here's the link!
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-download.aspx

Best Regards,
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15. February 2009 @ 21:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by cincyrob:
sound like a smart thing to do OM7,but windows 7 isnt due out for a few months, and i havent heard anything about a 64bit version of it yet.

Rob,
When I downloaded it a few months ago, you had a choice of 32 or 64 bit, so I'm pretty sure they have one! Here's the link!
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-download.aspx

Best Regards,
Russ

They've stopped uploading the beta. They've collected all the info they needed. MORE OR LESS :D



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Originally posted by cincyrob:
sound like a smart thing to do OM7,but windows 7 isnt due out for a few months, and i havent heard anything about a 64bit version of it yet.

Rob,
When I downloaded it a few months ago, you had a choice of 32 or 64 bit, so I'm pretty sure they have one! Here's the link!
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/beta-download.aspx

Best Regards,
Russ

They've stopped uploading the beta. They've collected all the info they needed. MORE OR LESS :D

I guess I should have tried the link first! LOL!! I knew they had extended the uploads for a while, but I didn't think it would run out this soon. It was only about a month, maybe 5-6 weeks ago, that I downloaded mine.

Best Regards,
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Yo guys I got my Q9450 up to 3.60GHz, and it seems pretty stable temp-wise. Vcore is at 1.3v.
I ran OCCT 3.0 and 15 minutes into the stress test, it gave me an error on core #2(which i'm not sure if it means core1 or core2).
Idle temps pretty much are the same as before when I was at 3.4(maybe 1C higher) at 37, 38, 38, 37 (tj max 100C). On full load, no cores exceeded 53C.
I have yet to leave it on overnight w/ prime95 running, which i'll do tonight.
You guys think it's stable? I'm still running it, and no problems so far.

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With a 35% overclock, I'd probably say bump the Vcore up a bit more, maybe 1.33-1.35.
I believe Core 2 is the third core.



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@mrk44

When my cpu wasn't OCCT stable it handled everything but games, but a BSOD or something is probably bound to happen eventually.
OCCT starts counting cores at 0 so core '1' would be core '2'.


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Originally posted by eparker89:
but a BSOD or something is probably bound to happen eventually.

LOL. it happened! i was watching a video, it lagged, froze, then gave me bsod.
I'll raise up the vcore and prime95 overnight and go from there.

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Spot the mistake:






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Triple channel. NOT 3gb



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Nope :P



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Oh geeze! Mhz, Not hmz!
Boy do I feel silly :)



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Here's a Mini review of the Scythe "Kama Bay" 5" bay system cooler that I installed this morning in my Cooler Master Centurion 534 case. While not for everybody, because it eats up three 5.25" drive bays, it works very well for me. The fan is dead silent and moves 30 cfm of air at 800 rpm. The temperature drop for the CPU is a noticeable 2-3C, with a corresponding drop in the CPU Cooler Fan's speed.

Since my case is Black, I ordered a black one, but it also comes in Silver and white. The black is spot on color wise and looks like the case was made that way. I heeded the advice of others and removed the filter, as it requires removal of the whole assembly to be able to remove the fan so you can get at the filter. Not worth the effort at all, IMO! All I can say is that it does an excellent job and I highly recommend it to anyone looking for a way to get more cool air to the CPU, Chipset and Memory. The biggest bonus was the difference in the Northbridge temps which are now 35-37C vs 42-44C without it! Overall, the case and the Kama Bay work very well together! Not bad for $19.99!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185020

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Cooler Master Centurion 534 case

I do like your taste in inexpensive cases and Scythe makes some decent fans. It should be quiet enough to even quell Sam's near obsessive compulsive search for quiet.:P

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OK let me start buy saying my build is done, do not have the time right now to make a complete low down how everything went but I will. I will say my build is very simular to Russ's, its not as super charged as his but simular.

That cooler Russ has that sucker is nice, I even thought about it but since I'm not a gamer or overclocker I don't think I'll ever need it also I would not want to lose several bays, Oh Russ that other cooler is on it's way, 7 bucks for S/H man what a rip ehh what are gonna do, you need it you need it.

And before I leave, I am eladed with my new PC, I never had any so fast, and I did not have to spend hours getting rid of all that bloated crappy software thats always loaded with store bought PC's.
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