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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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8. February 2009 @ 20:42 |
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I usually wont run multiple tasks while burning, due to buffer underrun. Im sure it would do all that, just not nearly as quickly as having undivided access to either programs. Now if I had 6 drives, and each process utilizing a different drive, I can see how that would be simple for even a single core processor. Ive only used HC twice. I saw a slite difference in dark scenes compared to CCE, that bothered me. I WILL give it another shot though. I need more drives to play with. Hehh heh, I guess I have them :) I just dont trust the raptor given the clicking sound it makes. Plus I was having windows errors, that made me wonder about the drive. I would like probably 4 more WD AAKS drives. THEN, I could REALLY play. Sorry if this sounds incredibly newbish of me, :(
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8. February 2009 @ 21:38 |
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Originally posted by bigwill68:
@Russ
i know your over there playing with your New Toy...lol But...i came across this sense i know you like them lay down cases alot feast your eyes on this boy here...lol tell me what you think?
link to specs below:
http://www.xoxide.com/aerocool-m40-cube-black.html
shoot..I have to say..I like this here
Apevia X-Qpack2 Portable 3 Window Case-Gold
http://www.xoxide.com/apevia-xqpack2-window-gold.html
Will,
I actually don't care for that type of case at all. Looks too much like a cheap all in one stereo, where as the Antec I was looking at looked like a piece of Good Stereo Equipment! LOL!! Same approximate height and width so it looks nice stacked! I do like the Cooler Master Criterion case a lot, and the 460w PSU that came with the case is better than expected
Yes I am playing with my new toy. I've got it running at 3.2GHz at the moment. From here, I haven't got a clue! It won't boot XP at any multiplier higher than 16! I'll have to do some studying! LOL!!
Russ
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8. February 2009 @ 22:13 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
Will,
I actually don't care for that type of case at all. Looks too much like a cheap all in one stereo, where as the Antec I was looking at looked like a piece of Good Stereo Equipment! LOL!! Same approximate height and width so it looks nice stacked! I do like the Cooler Master Criterion case a lot, and the 460w PSU that came with the case is better than expected
Russ
boy your a hard man to please...lol...i thought it did'nt matter how the outside looked as long as you put good heart inside...O wait a min...I'm talking about toyota's the body rusts away but engine keeps goin change the oil sorry off subject...well I tryed Russ maybe nexts time...I perfer Power under hood instead beauty on the out...have much fun with your new Toy and keep us Posted:)
all yea are you talking about my case i got cm centurion rc590?
Will...
Done out of Here!
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8. February 2009 @ 22:20 |
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cincyrob if your doing all that multi-tasking with just a dual core that sounds amazing to me, I had no idea just a dual core could handle that.
I received some bad news today, I was gonna have a youngster I meet some time ago that has build PC 's and build some good one's I must say stand over my shoulder while I put together my build, he was attending a local community college here, but since he went to a better one upstate, oh man my heart dropped, my feeling of comfort flew right out the window.
It would have been so much easier having somebody physically here (damn).Doing this by phone e-mails and posting, oh boy.
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8. February 2009 @ 22:24 |
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@Fred... you'll be alright. :)
On the subject of multi-tasking I'd decide on the quad and NOT worry about it at all. :P You should be fine with Intel or AMD so don't worry there. ;)
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8. February 2009 @ 22:29 |
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The cpu I ordered is an AMD Dual Core, Quad is kinda out of my finacial league, but if as cincy says he does all that with a dual thats good news.
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8. February 2009 @ 22:39 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
The cpu I ordered is an AMD Dual Core, Quad is kinda out of my finacial league, but if as cincy says he does all that with a dual thats good news.
Processors make the human brain look like a childs toy. Although, there are things the human brain can do, that processors NEVER will.
Even single cores multitask when properly run. Depends on several factors. Multi HDD systems help ALOT! really depends on what your doing, and what you wanna do.
If you think about it, Our brains are multitasking like MAD actually, LOL. Are brains are running hundreds of tasks actually.
EDIT - This is kinda interesting
http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/Pickover/pc/neuron-galaxy.jpg
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8. February 2009 @ 22:57 |
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Originally posted by bigwill68:
Originally posted by theonejrs:
Will,
I actually don't care for that type of case at all. Looks too much like a cheap all in one stereo, where as the Antec I was looking at looked like a piece of Good Stereo Equipment! LOL!! Same approximate height and width so it looks nice stacked! I do like the Cooler Master Criterion case a lot, and the 460w PSU that came with the case is better than expected
Russ
boy your a hard man to please...lol...i thought it did'nt matter how the outside looked as long as you put good heart inside...O wait a min...I'm talking about toyota's the body rusts away but engine keeps goin change the oil sorry off subject...well I tryed Russ maybe nexts time...I perfer Power under hood instead beauty on the out...have much fun with your new Toy and keep us Posted:)
all yea are you talking about my case i got cm centurion rc590?
Will...
No I'm talking about an RC-534
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119159
I could have put what I have now in the Antec case, and it still would have worked all right. It looks more like a two drive CD/DVD component player than a computer!.. The quality is where it counts the most!
Russ
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8. February 2009 @ 23:22 |
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Russ I forgot to ask you, on your case, I know you added a fan on the bottom front, but did you disable the side fan that came with it?
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8. February 2009 @ 23:31 |
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Originally posted by FredBun:
Russ I forgot to ask you, on your case, I know you added a fan on the bottom front, but did you disable the side fan that came with it?
Fred,
No, but I added an 80mm exhaust where the CPU air duct was. The 120mm side fan doesn't seem to do much of anything. I imagine that it would, if it had a video card in it! At 3.2GHz, temps are good at 32-34C. Under load with Linpack on the highest test x5 it hits all of 50-52C. Works for me!
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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8. February 2009 @ 23:41 |
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Wow russ. Thats actually not all that dissimilar from my case :) Though yours comes READY to cool the PCI area. Mine, I had to have my brother in law the fabricator (LOL), cutout a nice little 120mm area. It dropped my GPU temp a good 12c. VERY worth it!!! The dimensions are almost perfect, if im not mistaken.
I wont be running it that much longer though. Im getting a monster in a few weeks. I want the next case able to handle a MONSTER CPU cooler. You know... one of those lengthy freaks!
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8. February 2009 @ 23:47 |
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Probably ought to be a record. Since I'm now running two HD4870X2s (four GPUs), I was experiencing temperature issues, I turned my side 120mm fan from exhaust to instake - bear in mind it only usually spins at about 550rpm - swapping it round dropped my GPU idle temps an impressive 31ºC!
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8. February 2009 @ 23:50 |
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Gotcha Russ, the extra fan I ordered as you recomended for use on the bottom front, I actually ordered two, I figured why not have an extra fan laying around, can I use that extra fan as an exhaust like you just mentioned for yours by reversing it? Or one needs a so called exhaust fan.
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8. February 2009 @ 23:54 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Wow russ. Thats actually not all that dissimilar from my case :) Though yours comes READY to cool the PCI area. Mine, I had to have my brother in law the fabricator (LOL), cutout a nice little 120mm area. It dropped my GPU temp a good 12c. VERY worth it!!! The dimensions are almost perfect, if im not mistaken.
I wont be running it that much longer though. Im getting a monster in a few weeks. I want the next case able to handle a MONSTER CPU cooler. You know... one of those lengthy freaks!
LOL!! And to think I'm using an on sale for $20 Freezer 64 Pro with a 95w CPU, and getting great results! ROFLMAO!!
Russ
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8. February 2009 @ 23:55 |
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Let's see you up the voltage! :) With a reasonably modest overclock (as far as voltage is concerned, 130mV) my 95W Core 2 Quad (really about 80W at stock, they use less than the 65nm Quads) - running LinPack ups my AC power draw by 145W.
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9. February 2009 @ 00:01 |
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The reason im going all out, and not just some cheap (no offense) cooler, is because the PhenomII Black is being regarded as an EXCELLENT overclocker. I just wanna be prepared. I trust you buddy, but if I can SOMEHOW get that crazy cpu up to 4.5ghz...COULD YOU IMAGINE??? Surely the heat would be fairly substantial? LOL, I read somewhere (newegg I think) that the i7 may LIKE 80C. Isnt that something? I thought that was kinda funny. Darn near cook an egg on that cpu!
By the way, thats pretty impressive sam! The temperature drop I mean :)
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9. February 2009 @ 00:03 |
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At 4.5Ghz even with a top dollar tower CPU with a crazy loud fan, you're probably likely to get shutdowns due to overheats. The Phenom II uses a barbaric amount of power when overclocked.
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9. February 2009 @ 00:08 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
At 4.5Ghz even with a top dollar tower CPU with a crazy loud fan, you're probably likely to get shutdowns due to overheats. The Phenom II uses a barbaric amount of power when overclocked.
So you dont think thats a practical STABLE goal? I suppose that would be a record, for general public achievement huh? I guess im gonna find out huh. Im about to come into some money here soon. I wouldnt mind playing around, and contributing to the community so to speak. :) Wish it were enough for an i7 though. Would love to run some REAL side by side comparisons!!!
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9. February 2009 @ 00:11 |
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Put it this way, if someone just came along saying they'd done it without a substantial Water, Phase or Nitrogen cooling system, I wouldn't believe them.
The Phenom 2s do not realistically overclock to the other side of 4Ghz on air. The voltages required to get them to those speeds and stable are SEVERAL hundred millivolts above standard. Given their already high power usage, it's not inconceivable to see them well up in the 200s for wattage. That's too much for any air cooler to withstand.
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9. February 2009 @ 00:17 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Put it this way, if someone just came along saying they'd done it without a substantial Water, Phase or Nitrogen cooling system, I wouldn't believe them.
The Phenom 2s do not realistically overclock to the other side of 4Ghz on air. The voltages required to get them to those speeds and stable are SEVERAL hundred millivolts above standard. Given their already high power usage, it's not inconceivable to see them well up in the 200s for wattage. That's too much for any air cooler to withstand.
WELL PUT!!! Sounds pretty logical. So...would I have to cross the 1.5v Threshold, to achieve such a goal? Or is it simply not recommended at this time? I want it to last a while, but I also wanna see it for what it can do :D When you buy a corvette, you dont baby it, you open it up from time to time :D
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9. February 2009 @ 00:19 |
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If you didn't have to cross 1.5V I suspect you'd be running risks of stability issues.
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9. February 2009 @ 00:20 |
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My question seems to have gotten lost some where, so I'll ask again, can one use a fan as an exhaust by reversing it.
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9. February 2009 @ 00:20 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Let's see you up the voltage! :) With a reasonably modest overclock (as far as voltage is concerned, 130mV) my 95W Core 2 Quad (really about 80W at stock, they use less than the 65nm Quads) - running LinPack ups my AC power draw by 145W.
Sam,
I have upped the voltage to 1.46v at 3.2GHz. The Freezer 64 has a new design fan blade, and is much quieter than the older ones. It already beats my DVDRB/CCE times for the E6750. The only thing running slow is AD! LOL!!
Russ
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9. February 2009 @ 00:22 |
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1.46V to get to 3.2Ghz? Ooh err....
What sort of temps do you manage under full load for a while then?
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9. February 2009 @ 00:24 |
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Ok... now the most important question. Can the PhenomII handle more voltage than previous cpu's. Have they advanced upon the technology that limits them? Or rather, is 1.5 ALWAYS a standard for ANY processor including this one. I really dont want electron migration darn it, LOL LOL
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