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Best settings for very high compression
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puffyrock
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30. June 2005 @ 17:44 |
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I am backing up my Godfather DVD Collection and each movie is 3+ hours each so compression will be 49% on DVD Shrink. What settings are the best for compression this high? Time isn't a factor and there is really no extras I can take out since all the extras are on an extra DVD. I wouldn't want to change DVDs so I don't want to split it.
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l8nights
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30. June 2005 @ 19:12 |
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the most I have ever compressed would be about 57% in shrink there was absolutely no problems after a deep analysis.there are also quality settings I think the smooth setting helps to avoid pixelation but don't qoute me on it. trial & error if you want to stick to shrink I also read somewhere there was an encoder highly recomended for flawless compression but am unfamiliar with such apps
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wrathloki
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30. June 2005 @ 20:54 |
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You could try splitting it to 2 DVD5's, check out the sticky.
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squizzle
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1. July 2005 @ 14:33 |
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I'm with l8nights on this one.
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puffyrock
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1. July 2005 @ 20:08 |
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I burned the DVD and it looks pretty good. If you look closely you can see some fuzz,but when watched from a normal distance it looks just fine.
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JaguarGod
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1. July 2005 @ 21:52 |
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Yeah, DVD Shrink is pretty good. I did a movie with 58% and it looked great on a 65" TV.
I don't know if you did this or not, but you can change the FBI Warnings and that type of stuff to a still image. I also compress menus as much as it goes and turn extras to still as well. This can add about 5% or so. Also turn off any audio tracks you do not need.
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puffyrock
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1. July 2005 @ 21:56 |
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Yeah,I wanted to keep all the audio. There was the 5.1 english,the commentary which I haven't heard,and the French I wanted to keep because of the bad imatation of Marlon Brandos voice which sounds pretty funny.
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squizzle
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2. July 2005 @ 06:16 |
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lol that's funny!
If you don't have a DTS decoder I'd recomment getting rid of that audio though. It's huge (like 10% sometimes) and if you don't have the decoder you're not going to be using it.
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2. July 2005 @ 06:37 |
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yeah, House of Flying Daggers had a DTS track of 1.3GB i think it was! - chopped that and stuck to 5.1
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2. July 2005 @ 06:54 |
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I agree the HOFD DTS track was huge, and I got rid of it, did movie only and it came out really good looking on my 52 inch.
@puffyrock
Have you thought of using dual layer, you can get 3 pack of Verbatim at WalMart for 18.99 and you will get perfect backup. I did my boxed set of Star Wars and the quality is super.
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nohelpme
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2. July 2005 @ 07:04 |
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I would not go the dual layer route...4.00 or more per disk??? Come on what is this 1997 with blank dvd's??? No Thanks..this is what I did with my copy of godfather. Split them in 2 and get the cases where you can fit 2 disks. There will be zero compression and you can keep all those silly audio tracks. I did this for the star wars movies. When I can get good disks like taiyo yudens for like .30 a disk who cares if it takes 2 disks to get a perfect copy. Just my 2 cents...
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2. July 2005 @ 07:11 |
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@nohelpme
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I wouldn't want to change DVDs so I don't want to split it
So this was just a suggestion for not having to split a disk and get the best backup quality.
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nohelpme
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2. July 2005 @ 07:36 |
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Just giving my opinion. I would split. Unless you want to spend mad money on dual layer dvd's... or have a crappy looking backup that is all pixallated
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squizzle
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2. July 2005 @ 12:45 |
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My opinion is to get better software. DVD Rebuilder is free still and CCE Basic is $60 USD. One of the best investments I've ever made. Makes DVD backups that look as close to the original as you're going to be able to get. If you're after quality and don't mind spending a few bucks, there you go. Here's a guide to help you get started:
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/dvd_rebuilder_tutorial.cfm
Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
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nohelpme
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3. July 2005 @ 04:22 |
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squizzle, what advantages would you say it has over DVD Shrink?
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squizzle
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3. July 2005 @ 07:49 |
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well, the biggest advantage (and the most important IMO) is that it produces way better video quality. Actually if you use CCE with Rebuilder, it's the best you're ever gonna get short of spending 4 figures on software. I can compress @50% with Rebuilder and still not be able to tell the difference. But that's all personal preference. Some people are happy with Shrink's quality. I'm kind of a perfectionist with this type of stuff.
The only discs I will not compress are concert DVDs. To compress a DVD9 (dual layer) concert DVD to DVD5 (single layer) you will get horrible quality. That's when I use Shrink to get just 1 angle (many concert DVDs have multiple angles, which causes issues for compression). I just recently did a Pantera DVD and split it into 2 discs and made my own menus with DVD Lab Pro.
Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html
My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
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nohelpme
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3. July 2005 @ 08:00 |
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Wow Sqizzle. What does it do differently then DVD Shrink? To make the video quality so much better?
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squizzle
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3. July 2005 @ 20:01 |
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DVD Rebuilder just links all the programs together. CCE is the encoder that does all the dirty work so to say. You'd have to find out for yourself to know the difference. There's a free trial for CCE but I'd recommend CCE SP (Professional, costs like $2000 to buy) for the trial. CCE Basic trial just lets you encode a few minutes of a movie, SP lets you encode the whole thing but the trial leaves a watermark on the movie (you'll see the logo throughout the movie). I'd recommend a movie like the Matrix for a test if you're gonna try it out.
Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html
My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
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l8nights
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3. July 2005 @ 20:45 |
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@ squizzle or any body with knowledge of dvd rebuilder I just got through skimming the dvd rebuilder guide here and it must be to late cuz I just caught a migraine It left me with more questions. but first of all you say I would need another not so free program. is there any free alternatives. and just how user-friendly is this method ok another what is avisynth? oh never mind I will go back and try to read more if you have any suggestions to save me from premature balding it would be appreciated
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squizzle
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4. July 2005 @ 00:06 |
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that guide is actually a bit old, now they have the installers which make it much easier. Basically you have the DVD Rebuilder program, AVISynth, DGDecode (or a different decoder) and CCE or a different encoder like QuEnc or some other ones that are free. So you really don't have to pay for any programs but CCE is the best encoder you can use, which you have to pay for. Other encoders are good but not as good as CCE.
Convert PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL------>http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/167922
ScubaPete's guides------>http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
Bbmayo's guides------>http://home.comcast.net/~bbmayo/index.html
My ever-growing movie collection------>http://www.intervocative.com/dvdcollection.aspx/squizzle
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4. July 2005 @ 03:24 |
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see if this helps, the epic 20pager on all things RB/CCE related, i subscribed to it with the intention of getting into it but i doubt i will as i just don't have the time of a night time. Hope it helps though - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/97052
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nohelpme
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4. July 2005 @ 04:37 |
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Rebuilder seems to look like a good program to go to if you have high compression rates. For example I just bought the wire series on hbo and using DVD Shrink even if i remove all the extra sound track and menus and bring it down to just a basic 2 episodes per dvd i get like 60% original. At that rate i see some small degredation of picture. It makes it look like i am looking at something off of tv basically. With rebuilder with cce help that?? It seems like a lot more difficult program to get into. I am no noob but
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4. July 2005 @ 04:58 |
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It makes it look like i am looking at something off of tv basically
That is because it is something off of TV, it is not a theatrical release with motion picture quality. I have done all five seasons of the sopranos and have split one disk to two disks, with two episodes per disk and include menus on both disks. I end up only compressing about 10% to 15% and it looks like the original on my 52 inch. I have done the whole disk with deep analysis and quality enhancement without much loss of quality. I agree though for high compression Rebuilder and CCE cannot be beat, as long as you have the time to do them.
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nohelpme
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4. July 2005 @ 05:02 |
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arniebear..did you try it without spliting the disks to see how they looked? Just curious. They just don't look as good as the original. Usually with shrink that is the case but the compression is so high. Any thoughts would be helpful.
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4. July 2005 @ 05:07 |
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Yes I did the first three seasons on one disk only using either Nero Recode or Shrink both with deep analysis and quality enhancement, I prefer smooth, and they quality loss was minimal. Since, I can now split using CloneDVD and preserve the menus on both disks I backed up the last two seasons splitting.
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