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29. January 2008 @ 17:48 |
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Crucial Ballistix PC2-8500 2GB is about 62 now.
Also it was my mistake on the 4 sticks. He will indeed use 2 sticks. I'm still not sure of the 1066mhz speed, unless he loosens the timings even more. Maybe if they were Reapers, but not the Platinum edition.
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29. January 2008 @ 17:50 |
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if you live in the UK, i would ALWAYS go for the balistix.
they Oc liek the dogs nuts, and if they fail, crucial (based in UK) send you a replacement pair, within 48hrs GRANATEED.
superb service, and OCers, just they might be a bit dead :P
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29. January 2008 @ 17:52 |
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NuckNFuts,
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Thet keep cool enough on their own but do even better with the optional OCZ fan block or any type of forced air coling cause of the tiny hole desing (allows air to circulate throughout and heat to disipate much quicker).
The reason they do better with the optional OCZ fan block is because the chips on the dim do a poor job of contacting the heat spreader. All the open areas in the "Latticework" are areas that the heat spreader doesn't touch the chips at all! From an engineering standpoint, it's a poor design! A "smart" design would have made the spreader solid where the chips are in contact with the spreader, with the Latticework in between, above and below the chips!
abuzar1,
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lol I know but I don't have the software! I tried windows media encoder to convert all my stuff to WMV(I need it for my Zune) but it gives me an error. I've tried that on three different computers so I don't know what's wrong.
Do you guys know any good software? I don't care about time, I'll leave it on overnight lol!
I use Win Avi! It will convert Avi, Vob and mpeg to wmv. very easy to use, too!
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29. January 2008 @ 21:17 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
NuckNFuts,
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Thet keep cool enough on their own but do even better with the optional OCZ fan block or any type of forced air coling cause of the tiny hole desing (allows air to circulate throughout and heat to disipate much quicker).
The reason they do better with the optional OCZ fan block is because the chips on the dim do a poor job of contacting the heat spreader. All the open areas in the "Latticework" are areas that the heat spreader doesn't touch the chips at all! From an engineering standpoint, it's a poor design! A "smart" design would have made the spreader solid where the chips are in contact with the spreader, with the Latticework in between, above and below the chips!
This is somewhat true to a c`ertain degree. The issue here is that for RAM sinks that are solid, tend to trap heat in without any active moving air around. Whareas the ported sinks will allow heated air to escape much more freely. I ran a series of test on matched parts from Crucial and Corsair to show this. I did find that the D9's on Crucials tend to just warm much more regardless of wich cooler.
Also, OCZ uses solid copper v/s shin aluminum of Corsair or Crucial. So it actually becomes as if it was the same surface area as far as material is concerned. If the solid sinks were copper and vented with ports just next to the actual IC chip that we would see some better air circulation. Add a fan, and even better.
We are starting to see notebook sodimm RAM with solid sinks and they too suffer from trapped heated air , especially since notebooks have even less air space. So here we can certainly make use of perforated sinks to work with the already perforated, slotted botom plates in most notebook. I found this out with my 2 noteboks and 1 using PC2-6400 GIEL with solid aluminum. They dont get any cooler then my OCZ at same speed and tighter timings and no sink.
Just some of my findings on the RAM cooling solutions.
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30. January 2008 @ 03:36 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
....Also it was my mistake on the 4 sticks. He will indeed use 2 sticks. I'm still not sure of the 1066mhz speed, unless he loosens the timings even more. Maybe if they were Reapers, but not the Platinum edition.
do you know what your saying????
do you know that they are the same ic on the same pcb and the only difference is the heatpipe cooler? is that worth the +50% premium? ddr 1000 that wont hit ddr1066? we shall see later as i have them in my hand and will be fitting them soon.
as for the ballistix, well yea if i was only after 2gb or 4x1gb stix then yes of course i would of gone for some but thats not what i needed.
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only change is the ram, i just need a cold night now to see if i can get it into the 15sec @ 3.6ghz :D
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30. January 2008 @ 04:38 |
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as for the ballistix, well yea if i was only after 2gb or 4x1gb stix then yes of course i would of gone for some but thats not what i needed.
Whatever you choose, I hope it all comes together for you. The outlook from MSI doesn't seem promising at the moment, as they've scrapped the 2DDR2/4DDR3 x38 in favor of just 4 DDR3 slots. The X48 supposedly will have both, but neither motherboard seems to be available for sale, even though they're on MSI's product list. I can find a ton of reviews, but I can't find a single one for sale! Even the links with them for sale, are "Out of Stock"! More than likely, they never were in stock to begin with! I actually only found one review of the specific motherboard you mentioned. All the rest of the X38 Diamond reviews are for 4 DDR3 slots only! I frankly don't understand what's going on as we are talking about a motherboard that was introduced 6 months ago, that isn't even in production yet. We've had all those "Rave" reviews from all over the planet, but no product as of yet.
I don't know what you will wind up building, but I'm sure it will be a very good machine. There's a lot of good motherboards out there right now, so you will have a lot to chose from!
Check your PMs for the links!
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I just saw your SuperPi marks. That's pretty amazing being the only difference is the memory and memory speed! I guess that means when I get the Crucial ballistix 1066 memory, I should be in the 13 second bracket with mine. I'm at 14s 735ms right now!
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Russ
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30. January 2008 @ 05:07 |
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look at you showing off with all that l2 cache :P
well there is twice as much ram too,but i think the extra mem bandwidth should easily get you under 14 as you cpu will love it. i know what you mean about these bloody paper launches its a pita but i think they are waiting for the new tax year to put them on the shelves and boost their figures for the year, well i hope so anyway.
right im off putting vista 64 bit back on.
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30. January 2008 @ 06:15 |
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Given those results, I'd love to have some proper 8500 speed RAM in my PC, but in reality, I'd achieve very little with it until I grabbed a higher binned CPU, and given how well my PC plays games, that's just unncessary for me right now. Fast DVD encoding would be nice, but I don't encode DVDs! lol
It's a bit like our infamous debate over silent fans. My CPU does for my needs!
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30. January 2008 @ 06:54 |
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My CPU does for my needs!
Exactly the point! Mine also does for my needs, so I'm not in any hurry to run out and buy 1066 Ram! When I do, It will be a nice upgrade, and at the right price. All in all, I'm very pleased with the results. I didn't quite reach the 3.6GHz I wanted, but it wound up being so much faster than I expected, even at the 3.5GHz I run it at now. Thanks to a little tweaking, it's faster now at 3.5gHz than it was at 3.55! I thought it over and decided to leave myself a little more headroom while refining some of the settings in the bios. I'm also really pleased with how well SP-3 makes my XP-Pro work in it!
I know I could sit here and lament that I didn't wait for the E8400, but even if I had, pretty soon I would be feeling the same towards the next high performance affordable chip that comes out. LOL!! Then there's always the thought of the prices going down on the good Quads, so it's a never ending process, possibly driven by "Insanity"! ROFL!
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30. January 2008 @ 07:46 |
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look at you showing off with all that l2 cache :P
Someone around here has either an E4300 or an E6600 at 3600MHz, on an Asus P5N-E SLI yet, and does SuperPi in the mid 14s! Both from when they first came out. I would really love to know what went wrong with that particular MB! I remember Leo LaPorte on the radio raving about that MB and the E4300. I also remember about 9-10 months ago when he was apologizing for that recommendation! Sadly, it never got back to being as good as when it first came out. I know it had me talking to myself between the problems I was having with Gina's build and the ragging on I was getting at the Hounds to the point of seriously wondering if I was really the problem, rather than the equipment. I think Mort has one and it's the only one I've ever known that actually runs with all 4 memory slots populated. Gina tried adding 2GB of the same Corsair XMS memory to hers, and it immediately did the BSOD routine! I still get very angry with Asus over the way they handled that particular situation, especially since they continued to deny that there was any problem at the same time their forum was screaming about it! I think I hold the record for the number of BSODs in a single week, that's for sure! LOL!!
I can't wait to see what Sophocles gets for SuperPi with his new E8400 on his older tech Asus MB and memory. He's at 3.8GHz right now! I'm betting it will be in the 12s and maybe lower with 6MB of L2 Cache! His Sandra benchmarks are pretty high too!
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Russ
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30. January 2008 @ 08:53 |
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from what iv seen you need the right bios for mem in all 4 slots, i think its 0608 for all the slots full but i belive it hampers ocing slightly, and i think its 0703 for quads.
just another reason i wanted 2 stix :D
i think he will go bellow that with a 8400@3.8ghz, they are doing 8s from 4.2ghz but as it shows above mem bandwidth helps superpi by quite a bit.
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30. January 2008 @ 09:13 |
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Marsey, I said that because I have heard people say that the reapers overclock better. The better heatsink might help.
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30. January 2008 @ 13:24 |
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Russ,
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Someone around here has either an E4300 or an E6600 at 3600MHz, on an Asus P5N-E SLI yet, and does SuperPi in the mid 14s! Both from when they first came out. I would really love to know what went wrong with that particular MB! I remember Leo LaPorte on the radio raving about that MB and the E4300. I also remember about 9-10 months ago when he was apologizing for that recommendation! Sadly, it never got back to being as good as when it first came out. I know it had me talking to myself between the problems I was having with Gina's build and the ragging on I was getting at the Hounds to the point of seriously wondering if I was really the problem, rather than the equipment. I think Mort has one and it's the only one I've ever known that actually runs with all 4 memory slots populated. Gina tried adding 2GB of the same Corsair XMS memory to hers, and it immediately did the BSOD routine! I still get very angry with Asus over the way they handled that particular situation, especially since they continued to deny that there was any problem at the same time their forum was screaming about it! I think I hold the record for the number of BSODs in a single week, that's for sure! LOL!!
I've got an E6600 @ 3.6ghz but it is on an asus P5W DH Deluxe WiFi mobo, Intel 975X northbridge chipset. I'm also only using 2 of the memory slots. 2 x 1gb corsair DDR2 XMS2 PC2 6400. that's all I intend to use as filling the remaining slots could interfere with my OC.
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30. January 2008 @ 14:13 |
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Mort81,
I've got an E6600 @ 3.6ghz but it is on an asus P5W DH Deluxe WiFi mobo, Intel 975X northbridge chipset.
I knew you were at 3600, but I wasn't too sure of the MB or memory! LOL!! I've seen a screen shot of CPUZ of an E4300 in a P5N-E at 3.6GHz! If I remember right, it was built right after they came out!
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Russ
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30. January 2008 @ 15:20 |
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Russ,
BigDK had an E4300 OC'ed to 3.6 but I'm not sure what mobo it was on. I think it was on a P5W DH Deluxe too. I know he had that mobo.
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30. January 2008 @ 15:35 |
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Mort81,
Thanks Mort! It may have been him, as I only remember seeing 1 3.6GHz E4300 anywhere, other than Tom's Hardware! I remember being so stunned at the MB being a P5N-E, especially with all the problems I had with 2 consecutive ones.
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Russ
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30. January 2008 @ 16:03 |
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yep, paul had his 4300 upto 3.6ghz but it was in his p5b dlx and i think it was under water too.
mine on the other hand was in the p5n, check the link in my sig.
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30. January 2008 @ 16:55 |
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mine on the other hand was in the p5n, check the link in my sig.
Looks like you hit the Double Lotto Jackpot! LOL!! E4300s at 3.6GHz on air are extremely rare, and the odds against doing it on a P5N-E are astronomical! A legitimate Royal Flush in 5 card stud, is a better bet! ROFLMAO!! I've only seen that done twice in my life! Oddly enough on consecutive Friday nights, and the person that dealt the first one received the second from the person he dealt it to the week before! No funny business either!
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31. January 2008 @ 01:51 |
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Hi all, alright simply put I have my new PC. Asus P5N32-E SLI, with 4GB's of Crucial Ballistix Ram certified for my motherboard, a Q6600 and the urge to overclock this sucker. I have updated to the latest stable BIOS 1205 w/ 1302 being the Beta version currently I believe. But whatever I do the BIOS won't save my custom settings. I will change the FSB and the Multiplier. Exit and Save from the BIOS. Reboot to windows and CPU-Z still reads it as its default settings. What can I do to get this at least up to 3.0?
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31. January 2008 @ 06:04 |
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from what i have seen 1203 is the best bios for ocing, see if you can flash to that and see how that goes.
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31. January 2008 @ 09:43 |
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With the enzotech cooler on my northbridge at 12v, its not audible at all, even when i first tested it by pugging it in before installing it, you couldnt hear it unless it was 3" from your ear, the fan seems to push plenty of air too.
After gaming for 5 hours, the northbridge is hovering around 48ºc - 50ºc a vast improvement.
Oh yeh Sam I play COD4 on 1600 x 1200 maxed out, might start playing it through my tv using the hd out on the card though.
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31. January 2008 @ 09:56 |
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Why not? If it's 1920x1080 res it'd look pretty damn sweet.
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31. January 2008 @ 15:39 |
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well i know in todays market its no record, what with the wolves hitting sub 8s and all, but this is as fast as i can get my 4300 i think.
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31. January 2008 @ 17:21 |
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Thanks for the tip. I'm off to flash it now and I will let you guys know how things work out. Also this is my second overclock, my first being a very mild overclock of a AMD Athlon 64 3200+ from 2.0 to 2.4. I would like to take this Q6600 up to 3.0 minimum. What are your guys recommendations? Bump the multiplier up first and then increase the FSB to its most stable point? Or do it only through via increasing the FSB?
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31. January 2008 @ 17:42 |
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@marsey
Quick question there is no 1203. There is a 1205 and a 1103. I assume you are referring to the 1103 as the superior BIOS.
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