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ASPI Layers --- more info please
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shaqflash
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18. November 2005 @ 19:16 |
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PLEASE EXCUSE ME IF THIS TREAD IS UNDER THE WRONG SECTION, BUT I NEED SOME HELP...THANKS.
In one of my other threads in the NERO Discussion section, I was told to check my ASPI layers. Well, I did and my Nero ASPI is installed, but my System ASPI was not. I was referred to go to the following: http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm
Please give me some more info about ASPI layers and what they do and if it will be okay to install.
All this relates to my dvd burner not reading. Additionally, it does not read dvds period. I burned one dvd just fine, but after that...nothing else worked.
For reference, please visit my other thread
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/256917
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19. November 2005 @ 00:58 |
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Let me see if i can find another ASPI program. ASPI is very important for burning. I think it is a software interface consisting of 4 layers that communicate between drive and PC.
Here is bbmayo's answer to that question:
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What is ASPI and do I need it?
The term 'ASPI' is an acronym that stands for: Advanced SCSI Programming Interface. All the following terms are synonymous: ASPI layer, ASPI drivers, ASPI interface. The term 'SCSI' [scuzzy] is an acronym that stands for Small Computer Systems Interface. An ASPI layer consists of four files that 'lie between' various programs [software] and certain devices, such as CD/DVD-ROM drives and CD/DVD burners/writers [hardware]. Software programs such as CD digital audio extractors [commonly known as 'Rippers'] and CD-writing utilities such as CDRWin use/require ASPI drivers to 'communicate with' SCSI devices. Many people don't realize however, that the files contained in an ASPI layer are also used in systems that *don't* contain a SCSI adapter, or SCSI devices .. for things such as ripping CD audio and burning CD/DVDs.
ASPI DOWNLOAD http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/support/driverdetail.jsp?cat=/Pr...
Wow, it's right here at AD:
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cdr_software/cdr_tools/aspi.cfm
SO you can see ASPI is important. A friend of mine has Nero, and his system would reboot whenever he tried to burn a CD, but not crash for a DVD. I found his system ASPI was corrupted. Installed ASPI from the bbmayo link, and now he is burning CDs like crazy. No reboots happening. Give it a shot, and post back here if you have problems. Good Luck.
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shaqflash
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19. November 2005 @ 13:29 |
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I installed successfully. But I believe the drive is no longer any good. I'm hesitant to say the latter becuz when I look at the hardware from the properties window, it says the drive is fine. But when I insert a dvd and run it, Nero showtime says the "DRIVE IS NOT READY". And windows media player has the e: drive grayed out so it cant be selected. What do you guys think?
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19. November 2005 @ 14:33 |
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What does Windows Explorer report when a DVD movie dvd is in the drive and you click on 'my computer'?
Does it show the name of the dvd and the file size?
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19. November 2005 @ 14:37 |
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Try running Nero info tools, and click thru the tabs. One of them checks your ASPI:
and this tab shows your DMAs
That info tool is a great little program. Just click thru the tabs, and see if you can see anything strange going on.
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shaqflash
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20. November 2005 @ 06:57 |
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I went thru in the infotool on Nero already and nothing seemed out of place. It stated that the DVD + R drive is working properly. As far as when I choose My Computer, it does not show the name of the dvd in that drive. When I double click on the drive, no files show. Again, all this happened after my first burn (which was successful). Do you think, and Im just reaching, that some kind of program was secretely installed on the drive to not work anymore...thus no more burning...is it a conspiracy :D?
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amosco13
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20. November 2005 @ 07:08 |
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what if you can't run that aspi program because my computer pops up that it can't run in dos
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20. November 2005 @ 07:46 |
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@shaqflash
You burned a dvd -successfully, after which the drive quit.
Either the drive gave up or something was changed in software- after the burn.
If it was software, can you 'system restore' back to a date before the burn?
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20. November 2005 @ 07:49 |
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@amosco13
I think i see a dos shell pop up briefly so, yes i think it goes in to dos to get some of the info. Never heard of a computer not letting you go in to dos, but i always used windows programs, so i guess that could happen when a system doesnt have dos installed?? Don't really have an answer for that one. If you suspect your aspi is corrupt or bad, you could just run the aspi installer listed in the post. I don't think that one goes in to a dos shell.
@shaqflash
It is starting to sound like a hardware problem, if all the software issues are reporting back fine. Check your ide cables at both drive and motherboard connection. They could be loose, (also the power connection on the bad drive) or you may have a bad cable. If cable is secure, and it still doesn't work, you could swap drives, and see if the other drive now doesn't work (you may have to change master/slave settings on each drive for this one). If the swapped drive now doesn't work, you have a bad cable. If the swapped drive works, and the suspect drive still doesn't work, you have a bad drive. Most drives last a long time, and you can get thousands of burns out of them before they wear out. Some drives fail much quicker. So with a little cable/drive swapping, we can figure out if you drive is toast. It might be, but these things are worth checking unless you have unlimited funds. Go the cheapest fix first, then save the cash as a last resort.
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20. November 2005 @ 08:02 |
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@shaqflash
A couple more things. Did you check each drive with info tool? There is a pulldown to select the drive. I had a PC where ASPI was fine on the first drive (happened to be the first one listed) and bad on the other drive. Took me awhile before i realized i was only checking one drive..DUUhh.
Also i think we have a much better chance of this being a drive failure due to parts issue, rather than a secret malicious code attack that kills your DVD burner. Not saying it couldn't happen, but have you ever heard of occams razor?
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Occam's Razor
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Occam's Razor (also spelled Ockham's Razor), is a principle attributed to the 14th-century English logician and Franciscan friar, William of Ockham. It forms the basis of methodological reductionism, also called the principle of parsimony or law of economy.
In its simplest form, Occam's Razor states that one should make no more assumptions than needed. Put into everyday language, it says
Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate [Latin]
or
Given two equally predictive theories, choose the simpler.
For example, after a storm you notice that a tree has fallen. Based on the evidence of the storm and the fallen tree, a reasonable hypothesis would be that the storm blew down the tree ? a hypothesis that requires you to suspend your disbelief very little, as there exist strong logical connections binding what you already know to this solution (seeing and hearing storms tends to indeed indicate the existence of storms; storms are more than capable of felling trees). A rival hypothesis claiming that the tree was knocked over by marauding 200-metre tall space aliens requires several additional assumptions, with various logical weaknesses resulting from inconsistencies with what is already known (concerning the very existence of aliens, their ability and desire to travel interstellar distances, their ability and desire to (non-)intentionally knock down trees and the alien biology that allows them to be 200 metres tall in terrestrial gravity), and is therefore less preferable.
So let's stick with the most likely stuff first, and save the space alien/malicious code theory for later. I like it, but you want your problem fixed, right?
Creaky listed this in another post about the different types of cables. You should have the 80 pin type unless you are using an old system.
http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/confCable80-c.html
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20. November 2005 @ 08:12 |
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@amosco13
I am answering you in your other thread you opened. Check there, but i said the same thing, this time listing a different aspi program.
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shaqflash
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24. November 2005 @ 12:01 |
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Excuse me for the slow response. I wlll give those suggestions a try and report my conclusions...hopefully I don't fry anything!
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26. November 2005 @ 07:25 |
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shaqflash
No problem on the slow response. I sometimes dissappear here for a day or two as life intervenes and keeps me from getting back here. I try to go back and check all my posts to see if things have changed. I usually don't subscribe to a thread, as my email inbox gets flooded if i do that. You take your time, and try the suggestions at your own pace. Your problem does sound like a hardware issue going on. The good thing is burner prices are coming down. As a last resort measure, a drive replacement, but try everything else first.
Also here is what AD says about ASPI layers and how to install them:
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/aspisetup.cfm
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