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2. September 2010 @ 07:44 |
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A dual GPU card based on the GTX460 would be somewhat doable, though I suspect it may be done based on the weaker 768MB card, not the 1GB version, for heat/cost reasons. Considering the current markup of the cards, you'd be looking at maybe £330-£340 for the card, and it would still take on the HD5970 and win a lot of the time I suspect. I do wish Crossfire wasn't so terrible in all but a few games. TDP of the card would be a pretty astronomical 350W, that's really the stumbling block. Same for the GTX485 really, that's going to be a 320W card unless they do something clever...
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2. September 2010 @ 21:01 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Ha just got a new 75 round drum magazine for my AKS-47 and my buddy got a 120 round drum for his AR-15 in the same order. We decided to celebrate the new acquisition by testing them out :D
That's me in the yellow and the guy next to me is my buddy Kyle. Shame we didn't get some pictures of me firing my Ruger .357 revolver as we did have it there that day.
Really should have had ear protection for the magnum... ouchies on the ole' ear drums. Temporary hearing loss wasn't an issue till the revolver came out XD
Having a beautiful place like that where you can go out and do that makes me very jealous. The best I get is a desert several hours away :(
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2. September 2010 @ 22:15 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Ha just got a new 75 round drum magazine for my AKS-47 and my buddy got a 120 round drum for his AR-15 in the same order. We decided to celebrate the new acquisition by testing them out :D
That's me in the yellow and the guy next to me is my buddy Kyle. Shame we didn't get some pictures of me firing my Ruger .357 revolver as we did have it there that day.
Really should have had ear protection for the magnum... ouchies on the ole' ear drums. Temporary hearing loss wasn't an issue till the revolver came out XD
if it cant drop a target with one shot it ain't worth shooting, i own an M1 Garand 30.06 fun gun to shoot if your hunting bear.
who am i kidding have fun shooting 120 rounds of ammunition, my finger would get tired of pulling the trigger 120 times.
.357 is a nice stopper, i tend to favor the piercing power of the .44 magnum.
i had a 1903 Springfield that was deafening to shoot, without headgear. not to mention you could spot the muzzle flash a mile away.
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3. September 2010 @ 01:36 |
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Having a beautiful place like that where you can go out and do that makes me very jealous. The best I get is a desert several hours away :(
That sucks. This shooting range is right in town.
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if it cant drop a target with one shot it ain't worth shooting, i own an M1 Garand 30.06 fun gun to shoot if your hunting bear.
Actually the drum magazines are for combat longevity in a zombie apocalypse. One shot to the head is one kill, but they come in large hordes. We practice by shooting 2 liter soda bottles filled with water XD
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.357 is a nice stopper, i tend to favor the piercing power of the .44 magnum.
Yes but both the gun and the ammo are prohibitively expensive. A .357 is enough power for close quarters anyway. I have a Ruger and my friend there has a Taurus copy of the S&W.
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i had a 1903 Springfield that was deafening to shoot, without headgear. not to mention you could spot the muzzle flash a mile away.
Yeah we had forgotten our headgear that day as normally we always have it. Kyle has a shorter barrel for his AR15 which makes it painful on the ears without headgear. My AK, on the other hand, is tolerable.
Have fired a Springfield 1903 before. Very nice quality weapon with good power and range but yeah very loud. My Winchester Model 70 7mm Mag is like that as well. My favorite one would have to be my Marlin .30-30 though. Taken lots of deer with that gun :)
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3. September 2010 @ 01:54 |
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I can shoot right here in my own yard. But it ain't pretty LOL! There are lots of places like that in western Oregon though. Western Oregon is gorgeously green! I'm in what's considered to be a semiarid terrain. Nearly desert. But the small town life is quaint and agreeable :p
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3. September 2010 @ 02:15 |
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Eh I'm responsible with my guns. They're all legitimately purchased and follow all regulations for civilian firearms. I just like to have them around for fun. And for zombies :P
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3. September 2010 @ 02:19 |
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3. September 2010 @ 06:37 |
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Well, that's not really that great. It seems like PNY are doing this off their own backs rather than with any support from BFG. It's only a 20% off voucher for a new card, and it's only for two months. It surprises me BFG have withdrawn warranty support, presumably their financers have decided to bankrupt that part of the company...
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3. September 2010 @ 12:22 |
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If my card quits soon, that'll just prove the kind of luck I have LOL! At least I have a rainy day fund, and my 8600Gt as backup ;)
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3. September 2010 @ 12:30 |
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If it's any consolation I need to run a close inspection of my 4870X2. The fan isn't putting out anywhere near as much air as it should but the fan area is fine, so the HS may be blocked. It's running at 107ºC at 5900rpm (118%), not right with case fans at max and the A/C on :S
Still, poor thing was still running at that speed, just screen started flickering a little bit :P
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3. September 2010 @ 12:34 |
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Oh damn! Get that checked out ;)
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3. September 2010 @ 15:08 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
If it's any consolation I need to run a close inspection of my 4870X2. The fan isn't putting out anywhere near as much air as it should but the fan area is fine, so the HS may be blocked. It's running at 107ºC at 5900rpm (118%), not right with case fans at max and the A/C on :S
Still, poor thing was still running at that speed, just screen started flickering a little bit :P
you may need to bypass the heat sensor using RBE to edit the bios. my old HD3870 fan stopped entirely until i set it up to use stepping instead of auto.
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3. September 2010 @ 15:49 |
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Oh no, trust me the fan is at 100% speed, I checked :P
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3. September 2010 @ 18:00 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Oh no, trust me the fan is at 100% speed, I checked :P
then it might just be Dust Bunnies, have you attempted disassembly.
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3. September 2010 @ 18:02 |
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Damn those bunnies! ;)
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3. September 2010 @ 18:02 |
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Dust is what I'm thinking, haven't had the card out for a fair while [Early June to be precise], and I didn't dust inside it then, just the outside, have never dusted the inside.
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3. September 2010 @ 18:04 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Dust is what I'm thinking, haven't had the card out for a fair while [Early June to be precise], and I didn't dust inside it then, just the outside, have never dusted the inside.
i have dust filter over my fan ports helps keep the case clean. i do a full disassembly every year to clean parts, regoop and reseat.
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3. September 2010 @ 23:04 |
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I'm shocked Sam! I dust my video cards every month or so.
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4. September 2010 @ 00:46 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
I'm shocked Sam! I dust my video cards every month or so.
I don't...
In fact, It's only been blown out once since I bought it :p I'm rather lazy about cleanliness. You'd probably be appalled :S Sometimes, it'll get bad enough, and I'll do something about it. If I have a major reconfigure, e.g. multiple items going in, or out, I'll generally blow it out. This area gets rather dusty.
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4. September 2010 @ 01:47 |
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I can't stand anything not running at 100% effectiveness. And dust in the sinks = not 100%. Same when gaming, fewest open processes as possible even if they're passive or low resource. Perfect operation is important otherwise I might as well have stayed with my dual core and single card. No point having all this fast hardware if it can't be 100% at all times. I take running my games seriously.
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4. September 2010 @ 01:58 |
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I totally hear you though jeff. I really do LOL!
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4. September 2010 @ 06:47 |
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I dusted the cards fully on the outside when I was experimenting with the 5970s in June, but I don't really see how to go about dusting the inside.
I leave chrome with dozens of tabs open while I play games. As far as I'm concerned, quad core CPU was a waste if I still have to squeeze every last drop of performance out of the system to play games smoothly - I don't, that's what it's there for, to multitask.
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4. September 2010 @ 09:14 |
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4. September 2010 @ 15:40 |
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Hah, no thanks. I'm not going that far just yet :P
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4. September 2010 @ 22:39 |
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Originally posted by sam in #6558:
Big textwall inc, this is a translation of Xbit Labs' review of the GTX460 in SLI alongside the 5870 and 5970, in my opinion a more accurate representation of how SLI/CF stack up in the DX11 generation.
I have split the results into 5fps brackets, for ease of comparison on a 'points' basis.
Fingers are too tired to comment on the results, haha.
[These are 1GB GTX460s]
DC load:
Idle
Geforce GTX460: 20W @37ºC ref, 40ºC non-ref
Geforce GTX470: 29W @ 43ºC
Geforce GTX465: 30W @ 44ºC
Geforce GTX480: 42W @ 49ºC
Radeon HD5770: 14W @ 45ºC
Radeon HD5850: 16W @ 44ºC
Radeon HD5870: 16W @ 54ºC
Radeon HD5830: 17W @ 33ºC
High-clock Idle [HD playback, Alt-tabbed]
Geforce GTX460 non-ref 52W
Geforce GTX460 reference 70W
Geforce GTX470 90W
Geforce GTX465 91W
Geforce GTX480 131W
Radeon HD5770 42W
Radeon HD5830 47W
Radeon HD5850 49W
Radeon HD5870 57W
Full load [Typical, non-stresstest]
Geforce GTX460 non-ref: 141W @ 72ºC
Geforce GTX460 reference: 150W @ 76ºC
Geforce GTX470: 202W @ 85ºC
Geforce GTX465: 224W @ 90ºC
Geforce GTX480: 262W @ 91ºC
Radeon HD5770: 77W @ 80ºC
Radeon HD5850: 122W @ 80ºC
Radeon HD5830: 125W @ 76ºC
Radeon HD5870: 170W @ 75ºC
Nice stuff, Sam - On all the gaming fps (thanks for the 2560 res also) you include the 5970, but in these energy figures above you don't. I'm wondering if you have the 5970 energy consumption figures - and I assume we would be talking 2 gig 5970.
(I am getting MORE than a little interested since I DID GET MILES' 9450 RIG, AND IT WORKS!!!)
Happy belated October 12th birthday, DDP. I'm sure your mom considers that a fine thanksgiving gift, and as for me, I take back almost everything bad I've ever said about you! :P
More seriously, now you won't have to threaten to ban me to get me to upgrade from the P4, and maybe finally shaff will stop picking on me - (I feel like I'm in the headmaster's office when he reminds me it's been 3 years and I still have the p4) - the Q9450 asus P5E mobo with 4 gig ram machine from miles seems to have turned out merely to have some strange hard drive issues - and perhaps a bad sata controller. My good luck, bad luck for his gaming company (we all know who that is, right?)
On the mobo I see two crossfire slots, however according to cpuz it has only 16 lanes of pci-e total.
I ran 10 iterations of LinX (similar to Intel burn test) without any errors in 10 minutes - so to this point it appears that mobo/cpu/memory are working okay - that's not a full night test, but so far so good.
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Wow estuansis - nice picture with Kyle! A 75 round drum for your ak, and a 120 round drum for your buddy with the ar-15 - amazing! Have the two of you ever done a side by side distance accuracy test - say at full prone - to see if it is true what they say about respective accuracy of the two weapons?
Oh, man, DXR is a single-shot weapon guy! The Garand is "the gun that won World War II" - wasn't it 8 shots without having to slip in another set of 8, versus the nazis with a manual bolt action for every bullet? There are several WWII shooters that feature the Garand, and I love that rifle!
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My favorite one would have to be my Marlin .30-30 though. Taken lots of deer with that gun :)
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But the small town life is quaint and agreeable :p
Kevin, small town Oregon - who wudda thought - for some reason, I was thinking someplace more urban. Well, maybe that's why you like Grand Theft Auto IV so much featuring that big slice of Manhattan!
Originally posted by estuansis:
I can't stand anything not running at 100% effectiveness. And dust in the sinks = not 100%. Same when gaming, fewest open processes as possible even if they're passive or low resource. Perfect operation is important otherwise I might as well have stayed with my dual core and single card. No point having all this fast hardware if it can't be 100% at all times. I take running my games seriously.
I have to side with Jeff 100% on every word you just said - I too shut down ALL processes - and no "open chrome" for me! - sam, how could you :)
On my vent-modded p4, (my little practice case) every intake has a filter, and positive internal case pressure at all times means dust does not want to come in anywhere, not even in any small usb port!
THAT discussion takes me back to the rig I just got from Miles. I will probably have to move everything out of the tiny midtower case the Q9450 is in, which has only one back 120mm fan. I can't even add a kama bay front intake, since there are only three 5.25 slots, not four. And since Miles isn't sure whether he has to give the thing back one day, no drilling or hack-sawing on that little Antec!
The good news is that I still have that new full tower case sitting in its box in the garage, so after a little bit more testing, and then a couple runs of 3dmark6, I'll start moving everything over to the Spedo. I'm guessing 10,000 plus on the 3dmark with the 8800 - I'll keep everybody posted when I find all the mobo and nvidia drivers.
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