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how do I use rb/cce to compress 2 dvd9 episodic discs to 1 DL disc
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9. December 2005 @ 10:00 |
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How do I do this or can it even be done? I want to compress my set of Law and Order dvd's to some DL media. The set consists of 3 double sided dvd9's. After removing the previews and adverts with dvdremake each folder (each side) is aprox. 7.4 gb which I know rb/cce can compress to a dvd5. I want to keep the set on 3 DL dvd's. I would need to compress aprox. 14.8 gb (after combining 2 folders with dvdremake) down to 8.5 gb. Can this be done with rb/cce. I would also want to create an iso and burn with dvdd or imgburn which I have never done before useing rb/cce. I've always used nero to burn to my dvd5's after rb/cce is finished. This may be a silly question but an adventure none the less. Any help, advice, or assistance will be greatly appreciated. This will also be my 1st stab at burning DL media as I have not had the need for it yet due to the excellent results from rb/cce. Thanks in advance.
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10. December 2005 @ 05:04 |
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R U sure this is double sided dl media?? as I can't find refference to it any where! I suppose because you say the files after being joined w/ remake pro are 14.8 after being edited! so I suppose this is true
as rebuilder does not input a layer break (not to my knoing anyway this would indeed be hard to do you could adjust the ini. file so that it pushes the limit of a dl disk you would have to get the measurements from your dl in sectors easy enough w/ img burn!
but you would have to manually set the layer break and do some tweaking of ifo's & command chains(maybe not) in pgc edit or similar! I would actually take that part of this to the imgburn forum as luk as well as blu and others would know more than I about the appropriate tweaking needed for compliancy w/ that prog!
I'm actually just interested to see if you can pull it off so keep us updated!!
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10. December 2005 @ 07:16 |
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I have already combined the folders useing dvdremake and they are 14.4 gb. I don't know if rebuilder will work with target sector value larger than that of a dvd5. I would think it would since its just a value. I don't know what the target sector value would be for a DL dvd otherwise I would try it. I'm not concerned with the layer break.
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10. December 2005 @ 08:09 |
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There should be no reason you can't do what you are trying to do.
You have taken a double sided disk and combined it into 1 file using remake.
You just need to run RB on each 14GB folder in turn, and set the output to the size of a DL disk instead of the default single layer disk size.
You can then select Output to ISO Image File (Professional Edition only)
This option will automatically create an ISO images using the mkisofs utility. You need MKISOFS
To adjust the output size you will need to edit the 'Rebuilder.ini' file.
CCETargetSectors=2236400
default for DVD-RB is 2236400 sectors and the maximum for a DVD-5 is 2297888
So you should be able to just double it up to be safe.
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10. December 2005 @ 08:25 |
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BigDK,
Thanks for the reply. I will probably try doubling the target sector value and run one through to see what size the compressed folder is. Is 8.5 gb the exact size of a DL dvd (ya know DVD5 4.7 gb discs are really 4.38 gb)? I'm not familiar with MKISOSF. I was under the impression that rebuilder pro could make an iso without the need for other software. I could use Nero to burn the DL disc but most here seem to prefer making an ISO and using dvdd or imgburn to burn their DL media.
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10. December 2005 @ 08:39 |
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pop one of your dl's in and open up imgburn the sector value will be listed in the box w/ all the other info!
of course you will probably want to leave room for error so cut a couple sectors out!
rebuilder is just a set of commands telling the encoder how to handle the files and then rebuild them into dvd compliant form
so it will work (by my reasoning any way's I feserve the right to be wrong ;-})
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10. December 2005 @ 08:47 |
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Yes you can do it. Just do each of two DVDs seperately and then use DVDreamke to join them as you would a flipper and then burn the result.
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10. December 2005 @ 08:51 |
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L8ter,
I don't have any DL dvd's yet. I wanted to make sure rebuilder would do what I'm wanting prior to forking out $2 per disc for the DL discs. Why buy the cart before the horse ya know. This is a one time project as I am very pleased with the results of useing rb/cce and dvd5's for normal backups. I found that a DVD9 DL disc will actually hold 7.95 gb's so I am going to double the target sector value in the ini file and see how big the folder is after I run it through rb/cce. Thanks.
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10. December 2005 @ 09:01 |
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using lotr II EE the original disk two imgburn list the sectors as
Sectors: 4,023,459
that is probably what I would use if I was to do (minus a little) as I don't have a blank available that is the best I can get for you!
keep us posted!
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10. December 2005 @ 09:15 |
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Mort
Compress the two DVDs as you always do and then using DVDremake join them as you would a flipper and then burn to your DL media.
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10. December 2005 @ 09:37 |
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You should be able to create a Dual-Layer output using DVD Rebuilder and changing the TargetSectors value to a value consistent with Dual Layer. I'd suggest TargetSectors=4472800. You also have to output to an ISO image and then burn with ImgBurn.
The only real thing you have to be careful about is where the layer break will be. If you use ImgBurn, it will try to find the best place -- but the source has to have a point at which there are two cells that can split... with the type of disc you are doing that is very likely not a problem.
Make sure you have ImgBurn set for "Calculate Optimal Layer Break" under the "Write" option.
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10. December 2005 @ 09:40 |
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Hi Soph,
I see what you are saying, only problem is I want an ISO so I can burn it with imgburn or dvdd and you can't load an ISO into dvdremake. I guess I could load the video_TS's into dvdremake, join them, then convert them to iso and burn with dvdd or imgburn. I don't have the software to convert the Video_TS's to iso or the knowledge on how to do it. Real dummy huh. I'm running one of the 14.4 gb folders through rb/cce right now. I input CCETargetSectors=4472800 in the ini file. I'll see what happens. I may end up doing it the way you suggested and just use Nero to burn. Thanks.
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10. December 2005 @ 09:48 |
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It wouldn't take much to blend RB and Imageburn into a functioning unit. Now if we could just get Remake thrown in? LOL
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10. December 2005 @ 09:52 |
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If you have DVD Rebuilder Professional Edition, it will make the ISO for you...
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10. December 2005 @ 09:57 |
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Yeah it's making an ISO as I type. Thanks.
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10. December 2005 @ 17:16 |
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Well after encoding for 5 1/2 hours I found that 4472800 is to large of value for CCETargetSectors. The Video_TS folder was 8.67 gb and needs to be under 7.95 gb. I lowered the value and I'm running it again.
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but no errors that's good to know!
I second jdobbs sugestions on the use of imgburn it is exceptionally good @ selecting an optimal layer break just to make sure did you get the new update ver 1.1.0.0 was released on the 2nd!
btw haven't seen you @ hounds in while??
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No errors but still too big. On my third try to get compressed folder under 7.95 gb. Close on second try but still a little to big. My cpu is probably cursing me. Thanks for the software links.
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did you try the value I listed for lotr II.
be sure to let us know when you find the majic #!!
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12. December 2005 @ 19:29 |
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In case anybody is wondering I'm still looking for that magic number. 4000000 was too big unless I did something wrong and 3975000 was 7.71 gb. I'm trying 3990000 now. My cpu has to hate me.
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Hmm... if 2236400 creates a disc that is 4.32GB, I can see why the number I gave you oversized... since you're looking at 8.5 (I was incorrectly thinking "double it" -- sorry about that). You'd think it would need a number somewhere like 4400324. Subtracting 100GB for inaccuracy of the encoder you'd think 4352110 would be the magic number for an 8.5GB disc.
Aiming for 7.95 instead of 8.5GB would seem to come to about 4115597. I assume DL uses goofy numbers like single layer does, calling 8.5 billion bytes "gigabytes" -- when in reality 8.5 gigabytes is actually 9,126,805,504 bytes (using powers of 2).
4049907 would get you to within 100MB of the edge (50 for each layer). I don't think I'd get any closer. There's also that question of where the layer break is -- as it might require you to shave a little more off.
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Yeah, I too realized doubling the sectors for a DVD5 was too big just by doing the math. I tried a value of 4000000 and it was a little too big but I must have messed up somewhere because I later tried 3999999 and it was 7.76 gb (7950 mb). A DL dvd should be 8152 mb. On my next attempt I'm going to try 4040000. This is turning into a royal pain in the a$$. I've run this folder through rb/cce at least 6 times now at about 5 1/2 hours a pop trying to achieve a target size around 100 mb under 8152 mb. This times got to be close. Wish me luck.
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I admire the patience!
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13. December 2005 @ 10:51 |
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You may want to consider using ReJig for your testing. It will only take about 20 minutes for the encode portion. After you get the sizing right, you can use an encoder.
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