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26. March 2008 @ 07:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Rob_K:
I think this rig is awesome, a friend put it together for me, tell me what you think!

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Western Digital Caviar SE WD2500JS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM (x4)

COOLMAX CUG-600B ATX 12V( V.2.2) 600W Power Supply - Retail

The 600 Watt PS is fine with only a single 7950GT and the Q6600. You didn't say but if you haven't put 2 of your 250GB in a Raid 0 config., do so as it will speed up your system by a significant amount.

Grand Total: $1,641.14

My only concern was the power supply, and we are currently talking about a water cooling system. So, is this the most bang for my buck?


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26. March 2008 @ 13:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by greensman:
Can2113,
Here's some stuff to look at. ;)

mobo $130 delivered

cpu $170 delivered (comes with the stock cooler which I would replace but if you do NO OC'in then you should be ok)

gpu $42 delivered after MIR

case $55-$65 delivered

RAM $61-$91 delivered and after MIR

psu
$80-$110 delivered after MIR

this psu from buy.com $65 after MIR (the EGG has it for $88) ... (that would knock your low dollar amount to $523 everything delivered....that ain't to bad my friend!!)


These are from the EGG and I'm sure you can get better deals on power supplies and possibly cases but the other stuff is gonna be within a few bucks either way at almost any where you go. ;)

I did this as if I were gonna use it and like it even tho the gpu is a little weak it will fit your needs I'm sure. ;) Like I said I would consider changing the cpu cooler but the stock model will work for now. :) You got GOOD components and they should all play nice. lol. You will have to go to the Gigabyte website to make sure of the compatibility of the RAM I linked to.... there's plenty to choose from and I'm a Mushkin fanboy so that RAM looks purty to me. lol. ;P

Totals $538-$608

good luck with your choices and don't hesitate to ask questions hree some one will answer. lol.........

...gm

Thanks for the ram list, there are some pretty good deals there. I dont plan on OC'c at all although i hear core2duo's are great for overclocking. If i do oc ill install water cooling. I tend to get nervous when overclocking, theres no sense in blowing a $150 cpu for a few more processor cycles.



@Sammorris
I always use XP Lite which has sp2 slipstreamed already, so im good to go as far as OS's go. Im set on the software side of things, but the hardware is land i dont venture into too often.
That XFX card sounds like a really good deal. I have an xfx 6200 right now. Their warranty is the best in the business. That 8600gt costs more, but i might just spend the extra cash and get something nice.

(i forgot to post this so im just adding on what i decided 5 hours later, lol)
I think this is what im going to go with unless anyone has any severe objections ;)

RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227284
The latency is higher than some sticks, but the rebate makes them look really good and i wont be hardcore gaming on this machine.
I read somewhere (honestly cant remember where) that these are a tight fit to get the side-by-side, but they may have been referring to the models with dual heat pipes. Anyone have experience with this ram?

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115030
I'll leave the stock fan on and see if it gets hot. If it does ill just get another one, but i dont plan on oc'ing at all so it shouldnt be a huge problem.

PSU:
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-vx-550w-.../205852646.html
550w should be more than enough, and corsair=win.

Mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...e%2bGA-P35-DS3L
Has all the features i need and is a good price.

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119115
ATX case with a fan, pretty basic but it works.

GPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150229
A bit more than i wanted to spend, but from what i gather its very much worth it.

Thats basically it. I should be able to finish this and spend about $500. I can live with that.
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26. March 2008 @ 14:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Good choices all round for the budget. You should be very pleased.

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26. March 2008 @ 15:19 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I would get a better CPU. An E6750 is only 10 dollars more. When I used to have one I had it overclocked to 3.6Ghz on Stock Cooling.
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26. March 2008 @ 16:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by abuzar1:
I would get a better CPU. An E6750 is only 10 dollars more. When I used to have one I had it overclocked to 3.6Ghz on Stock Cooling.

holy crap.
I think ill spend the extra $1o. The extra 300 mhz from the factory is nice too. This computer slowly keeps costing me more and more.... lol :D
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26. March 2008 @ 16:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was gonna suggest the same thing - but I didnt because I remembered how the cost of my CPU doubled from the initial one I was looking at to the one I got because I kept upgrading it one level because the difference was so small. 5 levels later and id doubled my initial budget for the CPU lol.

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26. March 2008 @ 17:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i think ill be getting the E6750 though. Seems like the best cost/performance ratio. Woot.
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26. March 2008 @ 17:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
got a question. kinda think i know the answer to it though..lol

if you get 4gb of ram on a standard 32bit system i know you wont use all of the mem or windows wont see it.. will it still show as the 3+gb
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26. March 2008 @ 17:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You answered your own question Rob :)



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26. March 2008 @ 18:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
sammorris,
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Theone: if you know where to look, you can find a version of XP up to date with SP2, no serial required on the internet, pre-installed with things like Firefox, Foxit reader and so on... Very useful, I'll be using that version again!
I'm not sure what your response to me is answering, but all the ones I've seen available that way are versions of the "Student Edition"! They don't need a serial number and are meant to be copied and passed along. I have one on a CD, but there are some glitches and minor bugs in it. I used it for a while, and while it was a full version SP-2, it didn't work that well for me with the 965P-DS3, so I switched back to my own legit copy of XP-Pro and all the little glitches I was having went away! In fact I'm still using that same install right now, with no problems at all, and it's been about a year since it was installed on the drive.

I have a couple of programs, TuneUp Utilities 8 and 1 Click Fixer that remove all the crap from the OS registry and seems speedy as ever. Unless I run into a serious issue with the OS, I have no intention of doing a fresh install. With all the programs I use on a regular basis, I have had no slowdown with anything, where before I would run SuperPi after 6 months and it would run a second or more slower while now it's only lost .023ms from it's fresh install time of 14.735 seonds. Whatever both these programs actually do, they do work extremely well at getting rid of the rubbish that slows everything down. Highly recommended!

Best Regards,
Russ


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26. March 2008 @ 18:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
does it hurt the ram if it is only useing some 3+gb only? am i makeing sence here?

with haveing 4 possible gigs of mem and only a little over 3 gigs does that cause the mem to ware down some????? guess im worring about something i really dont need to...lol
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26. March 2008 @ 18:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm having big problems trying to acquire an E8400 - I was thinking, would it be worth my while ordering processor and video card from Newegg, get them sent to my relative in Boston then they could send them on to me in the UK. There appears to be very good prices at the moment!
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26. March 2008 @ 18:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cincyrob:
does it hurt the ram if it is only useing some 3+gb only? am i makeing sence here?

with haveing 4 possible gigs of mem and only a little over 3 gigs does that cause the mem to ware down some????? guess im worring about something i really dont need to...lol
you're fine; it won't rust or anything, it would only get lonely if it wasn't all together :) :)



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26. March 2008 @ 18:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Wololo:
I'm having big problems trying to acquire an E8400 - I was thinking, would it be worth my while ordering processor and video card from Newegg, get them sent to my relative in Boston then they could send them on to me in the UK. There appears to be very good prices at the moment!
CincyRobs got one for sale, I'm sure he wouldn't mind international shipping. :P


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26. March 2008 @ 18:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
LMAO at using Rob's CPU, one careful owner :P



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26. March 2008 @ 18:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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with haveing 4 possible gigs of mem
most motherboards will support up to 8gb of ram nowdays.

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26. March 2008 @ 18:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I went for 4GB at the time as it was a measly £135.11. The MSI P35 Platinum does 8GB but as i'd only previously been at the heady heights of 1GB, 4GB was enough (plus i knew about the Windows 32-bit 3 and a bit GB usable limit anyways); i did well as the board only supports DDR2-800 officially and i deliberately bought 1066 RAM



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spaul40: The PSU is crap, they're very prone to failures, fire, and damaging other PC components. They are not 600W units despite the label. Most will fail if you try to draw more than 200W.




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26. March 2008 @ 18:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by creaky:
LMAO at using Rob's CPU, one careful owner :P
dang no help for the non informed first time builder...lol
just how much would the shipping be???

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26. March 2008 @ 19:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
dog gone it. asus just screwed up my mobo decission again. they just released their rampage formula I all but had my mind set on the DFI LP LT X38. now I'll have to once again seriously consider asus and the X48 chipset.

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WOW thats a sweet azz board Mort. guess they aint playing around. asus seems to be trying to make all there boards as strong as there striker series. ilike the look of all that copper running around on that board.
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26. March 2008 @ 19:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
HOLLY SHEEP SHYT

LOOK at this from intel
Date: 2008-03-26

Hello,

Thank you for your interest in Intel products. This is a confirmation
of your case:

Case Number: xxxxxxxx
Order Number: xxxxxxx
Order Date: 25-03-2008

Products shipped to you:

Line Item# Product Name Part# Qty Status
Tracking# Carrier Ship Date
------------ -------------------- ---------------- --- ------------
------------------ ---------- ------------
xxxxxxxx-1 BX80570E8400
CPU, BX80570E8400 1 Shipped UPS 2008-03-26
Core 2 Duo E8400 (6MCache,3.0GHz, 1333 MHz FSB LGA775
Product information is conditional based on substitute part
availability.


now thats what i call service. they got it in about 14hrs found out it was bad and sending me a brand spanking shiney new one.... guess my outlook towards intel has just changed.....man the DL just got real short. hopefully be up and running friday

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26. March 2008 @ 19:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sweet!
I found my new board!
http://www.giga-byte.com.tw/Products/Mot...?ProductID=2736
8 rear USBs (so I can use all 12), 6 S-ATAs, 2 true 16x PCIe lanes, and a chipset heatsink I don't have to remove in order to use my Thermalright. This board is looking v promising!
£120 too, it's not even insanely priced.



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26. March 2008 @ 19:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
MAN another sweet looking board.... i noticed on it, it said SATA II
how different is sata II from sata?
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26. March 2008 @ 19:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cincyrob,
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LOOK at this from intel
Date: 2008-03-26

Did I tell ya, or did I tell ya? You got what you wanted and you got it reasonably fast! LOL!! Power to the People!

Best Regards,
Russ


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