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26. March 2008 @ 19:42 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob: MAN another sweet looking board.... i noticed on it, it said SATA II
how different is sata II from sata?
sata is old 1.5gbps or whatever, sata2 is twice that...
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26. March 2008 @ 19:52 |
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sammorris,
Quote: Sweet!
I found my new board!
Yeah, that would be the more practical of my chouces. My other choice is an EX38-DQ6. In fact I just linked someone the same two motherbords, the other day! Like you say, Sweet!
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26. March 2008 @ 19:55 |
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Yeah, I'm avoiding the DQ6 as I have to entirely replace the chipset, southbridge and VRM cooling system to use it with my Thermalright Ultra 120 as it doesn't get on with crazycool. The DS4 though, plop it straight in! It also seems £20 cheaper. Score!
The sweet, by the way, was separate and was actually directed at Rob's success with his CPU replacement! :)
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26. March 2008 @ 20:30 |
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sammorris,
Quote: The sweet, by the way, was separate and was actually directed at Rob's success with his CPU replacement! :)
And just how was I supposed to know that? I told you a year ago, my Crystal Ball is broken! Names help! ROFLMAO!!
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27. March 2008 @ 02:36 |
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first time post / long time afterdawn newsletter reader:
Ive always been impressed with the knowledge the posters have on these threads and always am looking forward to my newsletter in my inbox. So could you guys be willing to help me build my first pc??? I'm looking to build a pc with:
1) tons of space to store music, movies, and pictures (TONS).
2) video card capabilities to play Crysis
3) Ram to play WoW
4) speed to keep my cable internet connection seamless as it is now
Budget is around $600. Could just go to Frys and get a new tower ready to go but figure I would post here first and see what kind of responses/suggestions you guys might have for a not so savvy computer enthusiast.
Thanks in Response for the feedback and hope I dont catch too much criticism for not knowing what I need or what I'm talking about LOL
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27. March 2008 @ 05:45 |
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27. March 2008 @ 07:13 |
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Originally posted by cincyrob: Originally posted by creaky: LMAO at using Rob's CPU, one careful owner :P
dang no help for the non informed first time builder...lol
just how much would the shipping be???
Could've sworn you got some help from the good people at AD.
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27. March 2008 @ 07:19 |
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sammorris,
Quote: $600 is a doable budget for a gaming system, and one can be built that will be able to play Crysis, but not one that will play it that well, I have to say that right now.
I think the lack of L2 cache is going to suck, big time! The difference between my E4300 and the E6750 is huge at the same clock speed, and that had 2MB of cache! Everything else was the same as my my E4300 until I got the DS3R! Everything else is a good choice, but you lose way too much performance going with the 1MB cache chip and the 800MHz fsb! It's going to cripple your video performance no matter what video card you install! I think you will regret it in the long run. Remember that almost 4000 3DMark you thought was pretty good, well it wes 2300 or so with the E4300 with the only difference being the CPU! The 2MB increase means that much to the video performance!
If it was me, I would wait till you save a bit more money and by the best priced xx50 model! You can have the fastest video card in the world and it's not going to make you very happy! That's what I think, anyway! Prices on the lower xx50s will be going down in the next couple of months. Buy your other stuff now and live with the E4300 in it, and save some cash till then!
Best Regards,
Russ
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27. March 2008 @ 07:30 |
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I find that very surprising, as I can make the same 3dmark score as someone with an E6750 when they're both overclocked. In any case I've seen what a PC with an HD3870 and an E2160 can do because I built one, and it plays games just like I'd expect it to. Maybe in terms of video encoding or Sandra tests it's not so hot, but for gaming applications, even at stock it can handle very CPU-intensive games like Supreme Commander:Forged Alliance.
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27. March 2008 @ 08:11 |
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Originally posted by LOCOENG: Originally posted by cincyrob: Originally posted by creaky: LMAO at using Rob's CPU, one careful owner :P
dang no help for the non informed first time builder...lol
just how much would the shipping be???
Could've sworn you got some help from the good people at AD.
i kinda worded that wrong. i got a ton of help from the fine fellas here. without them i couldnt have gotten the stuff i did and the know how to do the build...
i ment that im not getting cut any slack for the faulty CPU. and not knowing it was the CPU.
speaking of said CPU. im hopeing it will be here tomorrow. maybe late today but tomorrow for sure. my new sata burner is out for delivery now. so around 2:00pm(eastern time) it should be here...now the only way this could work out any better is for me to get my last rebate from coolermaster in the next day or 2. then i will get my PSU..lol
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27. March 2008 @ 08:15 |
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Our apologies Rob, but I've only ever seen one other faulty CPU in my life. What can I say, it just doesn't happen that often.
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27. March 2008 @ 08:32 |
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Originally posted by sammorris: Our apologies Rob, but I've only ever seen one other faulty CPU in my life. What can I say, it just doesn't happen that often.
well i guess im part of history here then..lol its a shame my first and only CPU purchase i get a cracked up one.
heres what has me curious though... they got it tuesday and shipped me a new one out wednsday. did they actually test it to see if it was bad or just ship me a new one to be done with it???? i wonder if i call them if they will tell me if they found something wrong with it???
@sam no need to appologize. i ment it as a joke nothing more. this is all a learning expereince. i take no offence in any thing said in good humor and just haven fun.
i/we all learn something new everyday. just hope to be able to pass along what ive learned......
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27. March 2008 @ 08:35 |
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They might have shoved it in a board and gone "does it POST?" "nope" - "send him a new one". It may be as simple as that. Or it could be as you said, they didn't test it at all. That would surprise me though.
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27. March 2008 @ 08:48 |
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i just checked the tracking on the CPU it, like my burner is on the truck and out for delivery. so they will both be here today. UPS is like clock work for me. about 2:00pm they are here....SWEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!
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27. March 2008 @ 08:53 |
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SO luck is sort of on your side again... :)
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27. March 2008 @ 09:12 |
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yup it s looking that way again..bout time...
now after going through this once. i wont be trying to take it up to 3.6ghz as soon as i get it. i think 3.2 range and thats only after i get it running at 3.0ghz makeing sure all it well.
i was gonna have my cooler sent out and have it profesionaly LAPPED but i dont have the time now....
speaking of that(temps) thinking of it that should have been a indication to me there. the higher temps of the CPU from the start. i never really had the low core temps this CPU should have had.
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27. March 2008 @ 09:21 |
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What I would do is casually use the CPU as you normally would at stock for 2-3 days, then experiment with how far you can overclock it, without touching the voltage. On an E8400, I'd leave that well alone.
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27. March 2008 @ 09:36 |
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since ive had this problem and have narrowed it down to the CPU or MOBO. ive done some searching.
the stock volts for the E8400 is 1.225v and here lately with it being out a few months now . more people have stated that leaveing the volts at the 1.225v they have OC'd it as much as the 3.6ghz that i want without bumping up the volts. so as you stated for the next 2-3 days everything will stay stock....
as for my mobo. it is out of the case and in the box and has been for about a week i guess. whill it still have the settings from the old cpu? and if it might is it smart to clear CMOS before i install the new CPU. or maybe even take the battery out for a few mins let it all reset?
the mem once the CMOS is cleared it will show it as 1066 until i OC the CPU then goes to 800mhz and i can adjust it up from there. but should i leave the mem at the 1066 or drop it to 800mhz
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27. March 2008 @ 10:04 |
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I'd take out the battery or short the board to clear CMOS and treat it as a fresh build, start from scratch so to speak. I think you've got the same mobo as I do and there should be a CMOS clear post just below the PCI-e x16 lane that you can use a screwdriver to short...or as you said just take the battery out for about 10 minutes. Look at your mobo book, it should tell you how to do it in case we do infact have different boards.
I was just ribbin ya about the CPU BTW.
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27. March 2008 @ 10:22 |
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One of my old boards remembered the time after 18 months of not being plugged in. I'm sure it'll be fine, lol.
I personally prefer using 800mhz memory as it seems to run better. You're not overclocking much so it shouldn't be a problem.
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27. March 2008 @ 10:45 |
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i know ya was LOCO. i did make it sound like i had no help from anyone here. and i didnt mean it to sound like that, thats all.
ive taken the battery out of the mobo. been out for 30 mins or so. well long enough to play 4 songs on hard level on GH3...lol
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27. March 2008 @ 10:48 |
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Haha, good man! Which ones?
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27. March 2008 @ 11:25 |
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slowride
hit me with your best shot
talk dirty to me
story of my life
first round of the hard level.
we beat slowride and hit me with your best shot
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27. March 2008 @ 11:34 |
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Heh, wait until you get to the real tracks like Knights of Cydonia... haha they're fun on Hard!
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27. March 2008 @ 12:04 |
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I'm looking at the PC version of GHIII Sambo, is it worth it as I don't have a console.
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