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31. March 2011 @ 16:41 |
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Exactly. THanks for confirming my suspicions. ;) Probably won't ever have that resolution. It is as many have said, a costly resolution :p
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31. March 2011 @ 16:55 |
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tftcentral seemed to like it.
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31. March 2011 @ 16:59 |
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Manufacturers all use the same panels for products like this. It's not the image quality I'd have concerns about, it's the lifespan and warranty support for it. Usually it isn't the panels that go wrong when monitors fail any more, it's the electronics that the brand name are responsible for.
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3. April 2011 @ 01:23 |
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Originally posted by shaff: http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-011-HO
http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-010-HO
what does everyone think about these two monitors, both a hell alot cheaper than the dell equivelent
I vote for the girl.
Somebody has to take a chance and buy an unknown brand - it might as well be you. (Better you than me, lol - just kidding. What's 8 bit versus 10 bit?)
I see you're on BC2, with light machine gun of course. Have any of you guys jumped into the Vietnam maps - or just me?
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8. April 2011 @ 12:57 |
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Remember that GeForce 210 I bought? Well, my buddy bought that computer from me. It may have just quit. He says things power on, but there's no video. I guess we'll see. He's supposed to bring it to me today.
I guess I know where my 8600Gt is going...
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8. April 2011 @ 12:58 |
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Could be anything really - no video more often than not indicates POST failure.
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8. April 2011 @ 12:59 |
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Please don't say that :p
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8. April 2011 @ 18:29 |
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bad psu will do same thing.
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8. April 2011 @ 18:44 |
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Indeed. Except the PSU in question is the 550W corsair. At the moment, I'm gonna doubt that :p But who knows.
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9. April 2011 @ 15:40 |
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My guess is he didn't have the video cable connected securely enough. Or his display has died. Given his luck with things lately...Who knows. In any case, it's running perfectly, and better than it was. Noticed he installed Mcafee. Piece of...[insert favorite slang].
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9. April 2011 @ 21:11 |
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He says that he tried the computer on 2 other screens. I'm at a loss. I really don't like making house calls either...
Hey guys, my buddy asked me about a new game, that is like sim city? Simulation towns and what not. Any ideas what that might be?
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9. April 2011 @ 21:46 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7: He says that he tried the computer on 2 other screens. I'm at a loss. I really don't like making house calls either...
Hey guys, my buddy asked me about a new game, that is like sim city? Simulation towns and what not. Any ideas what that might be?
Sims are a dime a dozen so i haven't the slightest.
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10. April 2011 @ 23:13 |
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Originally posted by DXR: Sims are a dime a dozen so i haven't the slightest.
Are we to take it, DXR, that you are not quite as interested as Kevin?
Originally posted by Sam: Cities XL?
At least Sam tries to help out. LOL
For another topic you guys won't be interested in, I have to take you back to our discussion of August - August 2009 to be exact, page 179 of this forum - that's right!
RAID!!!
Back then Sam had was known to have said "Raid 6 eats Raid 5 for lunch!"
Sam had a buddy with Raid 6, eight 1.5 terrabyte Seagate 7200 drives regular non-enterprise desktop drives, which gave him 8-2 = 6 X 1.5 = 9 terrabytes of data - BIG!
Isn't that right, Sam. Is that Raid still working out for your friend? Which controller card is he using if you know?
Raid has come up again, not for me personally, but for a family member who is quite involved in gaming, and who was nice enough to let me "borrow" what is now my current gaming rig, the 9450 with 8800gtx, which is helping me play all my games at 4xAA 2560x1600 (except Far Cry 2 and Crysis and Warhead which are still sitting on the shelf.)
I got an urgent email from him, saying "Help!"
He explained, "My photo and video family server with my child's stuff, won't boot up, and worse, synch toy erased recent backup when it couldn't find the files on the non-booting server, right after I had deleted 20,000 files on the laptop. I deleted thinking I had the stuff backed up twice!"
I told him that "synch toy" sounded more like "synch monster."
Never did any video game that he helped create ever cause him so much anxiety and stress than that event!! Fortunately, in a non-stop project that spanned the next several days, he undeleted almost all of the 25000 files from the laptop, including many duplicates, with the help of undelete and duplicate-find freeware from Cnet. (The laptop had been only very lightly used after his major deletion, so not much was lost.) Whew!!! Poor guy! The last birthday party, they brought Alice in Wonderland in to entertain the little kids and do face-painting for them - all those photos had almost been wiped out! Talk about stress!!!
(His artistic talents are in another dimension - I can just barely draw stick figures. But I'm a little bit more tech savvy. He wants me to get his XP server working again, the way I got his broken 9450 rig going. I might have to find some registry hives using Recovery Console or whatever, if registry is the problem, or just re-install xp, or maybe windows 7, if the bootup disk is bad. His data, that he has mostly now recovered, is on the non-bootup D drive, and he hopes it is intact.
I am SOOO used to XP registry problems lately, for me and other family on laptops that crashed due to virus invasions (before we picked up spyware doctor - highly recommended.) But just the other day, in my game tools folder, I rediscovered a program that I had found years ago called ERUNT, emergency recovery utility for NT, written by Lars Hegland, recommended by Tweak Guides, that allows you to backup the xp registry hives into a dated folder, then replace them later with an executable while xp is running, or with a batch file in Recovery Console, if you can't start xp at all. I had to mess with the 5 registry hives recently, default, sam, security, software, and system, and now I wish I hadn't forgotten about this program, and that I had been using it all along. Duhhh. It is way better than relying on System Restore, which is problematic - we had to undo several restores after things got messed up - and which of course doesn't help if xp won't run.
Anyway, so I said, "Yeah I'll come up and fix it."
Then I said "Put Raid 6 in your server." "Raid 6" he asked? "Yes - for you, one terrabyte is a lot of space, since you only add about 20-30 gigs worth of new stuff a year. So get a four-port Raid 6 hardware controller card, expand to four drives instead of two, at only $55 a drive, in fact I have two brand new ones I can give you so that will make four, and at 500 gigs a drive, your server will provide 1 terrabyte of data capacity, with backup, and double fault tolerance operation capable of losing half your drives, with no loss of data!"
"Then, every three months or so, back up the whole array onto a $100 one terrabyte 2.5" external hard drive, that you keep turned off in a cabinet drawer somewhere." I was thinking about the Costco drive one of my brothers had just told me about that he picked up for his video collection.
What does anybody think of that?
From the picture up above, here's one of them.
The battery backup for the 256MB (expandable to 1 gig) write cache, is $129 more. The write cache solves the slowdown with Raid 6 on write, giving lightning fast write response - but for full raid safety, the battery will keep the cache powered and shut down the drives in case of computer power loss.
By the way, if you guys think this is all overkill, his wife spends several hours every day going through photos, editing them, going through videos, editing them also. That is a big hobby of hers. So his database server needs to be up every day taking care of business.
Sure, I know people will say - oh come on, just some kind of simple manual backup. But what about the advantages of a Raid 6 for dramatically increasing speed speed and availability? She'll have four drive heads working for her, not just one. He was thinking, himself, of just the manual backup idea. He is of course going to junk synch toy and keep his main external backup turned off all the time.
But to develop a systematic backup plan, mess with it, spend time on implementing it, plan the backups, take the server off-line, blah blah blah. My thought is - "For crying out loud - don't be so cheap. Look what just happened!! Thank god you didn't lose all that irreplaceable data! Spend the money one time on a decent hardware controller, and you'll be set for the next 10 years until the kid is in college!" Do you guys agree with me, or not?
Or like DXR will probably say, "Raid controllers are a dime a dozen so who gives a sh*t!"
Hahahahahaha
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11. April 2011 @ 00:25 |
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Originally posted by harvrdguy: Originally posted by DXR: Sims are a dime a dozen so i haven't the slightest.
Are we to take it, DXR, that you are not quite as interested as Kevin?
Originally posted by Sam: Cities XL?
At least Sam tries to help out. LOL
For another topic you guys won't be interested in, I have to take you back to our discussion of August - August 2009 to be exact, page 179 of this forum - that's right!
RAID!!!
Back then Sam had was known to have said "Raid 6 eats Raid 5 for lunch!"
Sam had a buddy with Raid 6, eight 1.5 terrabyte Seagate 7200 drives regular non-enterprise desktop drives, which gave him 8-2 = 6 X 1.5 = 9 terrabytes of data - BIG!
Isn't that right, Sam. Is that Raid still working out for your friend? Which controller card is he using if you know?
Raid has come up again, not for me personally, but for a family member who is quite involved in gaming, and who was nice enough to let me "borrow" what is now my current gaming rig, the 9450 with 8800gtx, which is helping me play all my games at 4xAA 2560x1600 (except Far Cry 2 and Crysis and Warhead which are still sitting on the shelf.)
I got an urgent email from him, saying "Help!"
He explained, "My photo and video family server with my child's stuff, won't boot up, and worse, synch toy erased recent backup when it couldn't find the files on the non-booting server, right after I had deleted 20,000 files on the laptop. I deleted thinking I had the stuff backed up twice!"
I told him that "synch toy" sounded more like "synch monster."
Never did any video game that he helped create ever cause him so much anxiety and stress than that event!! Fortunately, in a non-stop project that spanned the next several days, he undeleted almost all of the 25000 files from the laptop, including many duplicates, with the help of undelete and duplicate-find freeware from Cnet. (The laptop had been only very lightly used after his major deletion, so not much was lost.) Whew!!! Poor guy! The last birthday party, they brought Alice in Wonderland in to entertain the little kids and do face-painting for them - all those photos had almost been wiped out! Talk about stress!!!
(His artistic talents are in another dimension - I can just barely draw stick figures. But I'm a little bit more tech savvy. He wants me to get his XP server working again, the way I got his broken 9450 rig going. I might have to find some registry hives using Recovery Console or whatever, if registry is the problem, or just re-install xp, or maybe windows 7, if the bootup disk is bad. His data, that he has mostly now recovered, is on the non-bootup D drive, and he hopes it is intact.
I am SOOO used to XP registry problems lately, for me and other family on laptops that crashed due to virus invasions (before we picked up spyware doctor - highly recommended.) But just the other day, in my game tools folder, I rediscovered a program that I had found years ago called ERUNT, emergency recovery utility for NT, written by Lars Hegland, recommended by Tweak Guides, that allows you to backup the xp registry hives into a dated folder, then replace them later with an executable while xp is running, or with a batch file in Recovery Console, if you can't start xp at all. I had to mess with the 5 registry hives recently, default, sam, security, software, and system, and now I wish I hadn't forgotten about this program, and that I had been using it all along. Duhhh. It is way better than relying on System Restore, which is problematic - we had to undo several restores after things got messed up - and which of course doesn't help if xp won't run.
Anyway, so I said, "Yeah I'll come up and fix it."
Then I said "Put Raid 6 in your server." "Raid 6" he asked? "Yes - for you, one terrabyte is a lot of space, since you only add about 20-30 gigs worth of new stuff a year. So get a four-port Raid 6 hardware controller card, expand to four drives instead of two, at only $55 a drive, in fact I have two brand new ones I can give you so that will make four, and at 500 gigs a drive, your server will provide 1 terrabyte of data capacity, with backup, and double fault tolerance operation capable of losing half your drives, with no loss of data!"
"Then, every three months or so, back up the whole array onto a $100 one terrabyte 2.5" external hard drive, that you keep turned off in a cabinet drawer somewhere." I was thinking about the Costco drive one of my brothers had just told me about that he picked up for his video collection.
What does anybody think of that?
From the picture up above, here's one of them.
The battery backup for the 256MB (expandable to 1 gig) write cache, is $129 more. The write cache solves the slowdown with Raid 6 on write, giving lightning fast write response - but for full raid safety, the battery will keep the cache powered and shut down the drives in case of computer power loss.
By the way, if you guys think this is all overkill, his wife spends several hours every day going through photos, editing them, going through videos, editing them also. That is a big hobby of hers. So his database server needs to be up every day taking care of business.
Sure, I know people will say - oh come on, just some kind of simple manual backup. But what about the advantages of a Raid 6 for dramatically increasing speed speed and availability? She'll have four drive heads working for her, not just one. He was thinking, himself, of just the manual backup idea. He is of course going to junk synch toy and keep his main external backup turned off all the time.
But to develop a systematic backup plan, mess with it, spend time on implementing it, plan the backups, take the server off-line, blah blah blah. My thought is - "For crying out loud - don't be so cheap. Look what just happened!! Thank god you didn't lose all that irreplaceable data! Spend the money one time on a decent hardware controller, and you'll be set for the next 10 years until the kid is in college!" Do you guys agree with me, or not?
Or like DXR will probably say, "Raid controllers are a dime a dozen so who gives a sh*t!"
Hahahahahaha
Rich
Raid controllers are expensive, i don't think Ive ever owned a hardware raid. i used raid in a pc that had MS2000 Server. and even that was software raid. had a hard drive failure and lost a good 200Hrs worth of web development. never used raid since
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11. April 2011 @ 00:56 |
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Yup. Cities XL 2011 it was. Thanks ;)
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11. April 2011 @ 05:56 |
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Rich: Still the same raid card, but with 11 drives instead of 8 now I believe. Some of the drives are the same 1.5TB Seagate 7200.11s, I think the new additions are Samsung Ecogreens. One of the Seagates failed after a low-temperature disk seizure incident (don't run your fileserver in an unheated garage people!) but luckily the other drives survived, so the data remained intact, once the drives were re-heated on a radiator for half an hour or so.
As it happens he now also has a backup server, with at least 8 samsung drives (that may also have been expanded) using the windows RAID system. Not the most flexible system out there but it does work, ish.
For me, once my exams are over in 7 weeks' time, I'll be working to alphabetise and content-sort my backup drives. Managed to get everything neat and tidy on the current drives (e.g. TV1 A-Di, TV2 Do-M, TV3 N-St, TV4 St-Z) but the backup drives are still a mess, and also no longer sufficient to hold all the data, so they will likely be supplemented with a couple of new 2TB disks now they've come down in price. The WD Green collection is slowly growing :P
It's quite amazing to look back over my storage history, in the space of only a decade or so.
Group 1, 1999/2002 - 2004
Seagate 13GB, IBM 16GB (P-ATA) - What my first PC came with, and the storage upgrade it got a few years later. The IBM was a substitute for a 60GB new drive, which wouldn't fit in the case - too many platters!
Group 2, 2004-c. 2008/2005
WD1600BB, WD2000JB (P-ATA) - 2000JB lost in the Qtec apocalypse of 2005!
Group 3, 2005-2009/current
WD2500JD x2 (S-ATA) - first of this pair still operates as my server's OS drive, due to be replaced by an SSD before it turns 6!
Group 4, 2006-c. 2010
WD360GD-FNA0, Seagate 7200.9 250GB (S-ATA) - Raptor Brought out of two year retirement (with the data and OS install still intact), to man the OS drive for RMS-Phoenix. The 250GB Seagate is still a backup external drive for some personal data, hasn't seen much use after the demise of the 2-port Icybox last year.
Group 5, 2006-2007/2010
SP2504C, HD400LJ, WD5000AAKS x2 (S-ATA) - only one surviving member of this class, the WD5000AAKS-65TMA0 (OEM return grade) Mirage, currently the sole drive in RMS-Princess. The 400GB samsung is losing sectors, and the other two drives fell foul of a faulty molex splitter in early 2007, thankfully when empty at the time. The WD of this pair was due for RMA due to a faulty logic board.
Group 6, 2008-2010/2011
WD5000AAKS, WD360GD-FLC0 (second hand), HD753LJ - second raptor ran as my OS drive for a year or so, as a much quieter version of the previous raptor I had. The newer 500GB SE16 was sold to a friend a year or so back, as I only needed one, so kept the quieter example. The 750GB F1 was retired earlier this year in favour of a much quieter and bigger WD20EARS, the ninth example.
Group 7, 2008/2009-current
Seagate 7200.10 750GB, WD10EACS (CG), WD10EAVS (CG), WD10EADS x3 - bought in a staggered period over a few months, the Caviar greens all form the backup drives, having been retired from server use with the arrival of the 2TB drives. The 750GB started off as a tertiary for my PC, but as it was found unnecessary, it went into the server, following the caviar greens into backup status.
Group 8, 2009-current
WD15EADS, WD1001FALS, HD753LJ - The 1.5TB CG was also replaced when the 2TB examples arrived, owing to lack of space if the 5.25->3.5" bay was removed (to save weight). The 1TB Black remains in my gaming PC today as a games/high speed drive. The F1 came from a friend's external box he was upgrading at the time. Also with the backup group.
Group 9, 2010-current
WD10EACS (GP) x4 - bought second hand out of a friend's fileserver, these drives were used for a year or so until the 2TB arrivals. Despite the enormous load cycle count from 24/7 use in a prior server for 2 years, no issues with any of them so far.
Group 10, 2010/2011-current
X25-V SSD, WD20EARS x8 - The SSD preceded the 2TB drives by a few months, replacing the 1TB caviar black which had run the OS drive for a few months after the raptor's retirement.
Group 11, 2011->
WD20EARS x1 so far, to be joined by others - the 2TB drive that replaced the 750 F1 in the gaming PC.
Drives by manufacturer
Seagate - 3 (total 1.013TB)
IBM - 1 (total 16GB)
OCZ - 1 (but we'll try to forget that) (total 32GB)
Samsung - 4 - 1 failed, 1 destroyed (total 2.15TB)
Western Digital - 29 - 1 failed (and destroyed) 1 destroyed (total 31.93TB)
Now, quite enough storage talk in a graphics thread!
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11. April 2011 @ 08:17 |
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What product are we talking about here?
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11. April 2011 @ 11:23 |
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Yeah same here. Not familiar with the member posting nor what they are speaking about. A little detail would be just fine and dandy :D
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11. April 2011 @ 12:49 |
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He's a spammer. If you hover over Jade link, I think you'll understand why I think this :p
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11. April 2011 @ 12:50 |
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Yeah I think you're right. I don't often see spammers come after me in particular though!
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11. April 2011 @ 12:51 |
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Indeed. Rather unusual post.
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11. April 2011 @ 14:55 |
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Oh no I've seen spammers go after people before. I just didn't think it was one.
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His/her grammar reminds me of a bot. Vague as can be, and of course, the spam link.
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11. April 2011 @ 15:22 |
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