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The Official Graphics Card and PC gaming Thread
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20. May 2011 @ 17:29 |
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21. May 2011 @ 08:51 |
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Oh ddp, you and your magical lightning powers :)
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23. May 2011 @ 18:14 |
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Jeff, I've been skimming through your posts, attempting to find a Dell monitor you recommended. It was a 24". I think you were recommending the U2410. I've currently got my eyes set on a 2407WFP, and they seem highly similar if not identical. Except the U2410 has a display port. One i'm looking at on Ebay is 2407WFP refurbished for 279.99 shipped. I plan on selling multiple items of mine, so that I can purchase this lovely monitor. What do you guys think?
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Red_Maw
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23. May 2011 @ 21:11 |
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The U2410 is the newer edition/model of the 2407WFP if I remember correctly.
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24. May 2011 @ 00:43 |
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One thing's for certain. I'd have to pay more for the U2410. I'm sure I'll love the 2407WFP enough ;) Card reader, USB hub, IPS panel(the big +), and a component input which I REALLY need LOL! Thanks Red_Maw :) The one I'm looking at has been refurbished by Dell themselves, So I should be able to trust it *touch wood*
I just have to come up with some stuff to sell :S
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24. May 2011 @ 03:28 |
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Yeah they stopped making the 2407 quite a long time ago, so it won't be a simple refurb any more, it'll be quite an old display, not that that's necessarily a problem.
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24. May 2011 @ 03:28 |
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AFAIK the 2407WFP is EOL or out of production??? Not sure but the U2410 is a direct replacement. I doubt there are many functional differences.
BTW My 2407WFP was ~$660 brand new from Dell. Still my monitor of choice after 5 years. Now that's good technology :)
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24. May 2011 @ 03:47 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Yeah they stopped making the 2407 quite a long time ago, so it won't be a simple refurb any more, it'll be quite an old display, not that that's necessarily a problem.
THey state that it's refurbished, and like new.
Ebay listing
In any case, I'm sure it's worth that much. I paid 300$ for my sammy just over 2yrs ago. It responds like new to this day. If the Dell lasts me 2+ yrs, I can be happy. I believe in 2 yrs, things should be well on the up an up for me ;) I really need an IPS panel...
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24. May 2011 @ 03:49 |
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It's possible that they could have put a new casing on it when they refurbished it. After all, nobody's going to buy a beaten up looking monitor, but if it had to be RMAed for a simple fault, it's a waste to throw away. Stick a new bezel on it, and sell it on, profit...
It's going to be a couple of years old or so inside (at least, remember the 2408WFP came between the 2407 and the U2410)
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24. May 2011 @ 03:51 |
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Hmmm, I see your point. I may just look for newer models. Really depends on how much I can sell :S I'm desperate LOL!
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24. May 2011 @ 03:52 |
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$280 is very little, when you consider a new U2410 is $600.
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24. May 2011 @ 03:56 |
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I don't mean buying brand new. I simply mean buying a used newer model. E.g. 2408wfp, or used U2410. The U2410 is expensive no matter what :( Yes, i'm a broke a$$ :p
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24. May 2011 @ 03:58 |
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If it's any consolation, (currency conversions here, but I've removed tax) my 2407FPW new was $870, and my refurbished 3008WFP was $1100.
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24. May 2011 @ 04:09 |
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Believe me, If I had that much money, I'd buy the 3008WFP in a heart beat! Yes, GPU power is required, but worth it xD But dual monitors is also good ;)
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24. May 2011 @ 04:11 |
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Hence, both :P
Well, not technically dual monitors, since the 2032 is hooked up to a different PC, but to all intents and purposes, that's how it's used :) By contrast, the 2032BW was second hand and if you subtract tax (which I didn't really pay since it was a cash deal, but the original owner did), it cost me $90. Bit of a difference!
Turned out to be a good find as shortly after, they stopped making 1680x1050 displays in a 20" size. Now 1600x900 is the highest you can get!
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24. May 2011 @ 04:34 |
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Quote:
$280 is very little, when you consider a new U2410 is $600.
Considering the U2410 is a direct successor to the 2407WFP and it still costs the same as 5 years ago, $280 is white-knuckled steal.
For the record I did replace my 1680 x 1050 22" Acer with a 1920 x 1080 23.6" ASUS. Similar pixel pitch, better size and resolution.
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24. May 2011 @ 04:37 |
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So you wouldn't hesitate to jump on the 2407 for 280$? I'd sure hate to have it quit prematurely. But man those U2410's are expensive. I probably will scrape up the money though. I also want the monitor to last a while now. If they're as good as everyone says, I'd die when it dies :p
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24. May 2011 @ 04:38 |
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I do actually still see my old 3007WFP, as I sold it to one of the people at our LANs, and it replaced his previous 3007WFP as a gaming screen, the former having gone to his work desk, as it had a dodgy backlight. So far at least, my old display still seems healthy :P
Kind of makes me furious at some of the technology I've had that hasn't lasted a tenth of that duration. Not pointing fingers.... (ahem, Asus, Epson, Saitek, Speedtouch)
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24. May 2011 @ 04:42 |
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My moms Asus monitor has a curious flickering when it comes back to life. My samsung is fully awake in a few seconds. This makes me nervous...
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24. May 2011 @ 04:43 |
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LCDs don't flicker, ever. If it does, probably means one of the CCFLs is on the way out.
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24. May 2011 @ 05:04 |
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Yer usually any lighting inconsistencies or flickering will be from failed cold-cathode backlights. Some brands have easily replaceable bulbs from any major components dealer, but others need to be RMA'd. AFAIK I know where to get the right bulbs for most 17 to 19" 1280 x 1024, 20" and 22" 1680 x 1050 displays and most HDTVs between 17 and 37" as these are the cheapest bulbs and the most common to fail. Also, monitors and TVs have entirely different standards of picture quality and color accuracy based entirely on how close you sit to them, so the bulbs don't interchange.
The only reason I bought the ASUS VH242H was price($140 shipped) and sheer image quality/viewing experience with 1080p film. Even though it's capable of displaying the full resolution, my 2407WFP isn't the correct aspect ratio for most films. The Acer just works so well because 99% of my film/TV fills it completely. Also Asus doesn't really produce monitors in-house so the OEM grants me a cushion of safety from the usual ASUSfail. So far so good. Very pleased with the image quality and it's a better size-match with my 2407WFP for dual monitors.
Also since we're on the subject of display technology, just replaced the focus-lens in a 65" Mitsubishi DLP HDTV. The family was moving, and the internal mirror slipped its brackets and fell down scratching the lens. Tried polishing it but it was never quite right, so we ended up finding a replacement part. Everything else was perfectly A-OK and the image quality is perfect with the new lens. DLP TVs are surprisingly simple and non-sensitive to DIY repairs. Just wish the parts weren't so expensive as I'd have fixed a broken one for myself long ago XD The image quality is superior to LCD and Plasma, just IMO. Only problem is the unit itself is about twice the price if not more especially for the larger(37"+) displays. Currently using a robustly-featured 32" LG 32LD400 LCD and quite happy.
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24. May 2011 @ 05:16 |
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With stuff like OEMs, think of it in the term of non-reference graphics cards. They don't make the GPU, but they designed the rest. With the one chance I gave Asus at a graphics card, the rest failed, hard. I initially attributed it to the HD3870. When nobody else replicated the symptom, and I found the symptom infected the OS post-removal, the penny dropped. Haven't owned, nor recommended an Asus graphics card since. Can't be dealing with that crap again.
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24. May 2011 @ 05:23 |
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Oh likewise I feel much the same about ASUS products. But you know, it was just a monitor, it has great features, decent connection options, and slightly above average image quality. Not to mention it was cheap. It has a 2 year warranty and has lasted so far. No complaints. Maybe that if you press the buttons at the wrong angle, they slip into the bezel a bit and you have to pop them back out with a knife. But that's a mild design oversight that isn't even that annoying, not a manufacturing flaw built into the product.
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24. May 2011 @ 05:25 |
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Rofl. I'd point and laugh at that but I did have the same issue with the power switch on my Toshiba 24Z33 24" CRT TV. Fortunately, a delicate finger prod would resolve it.
Felt quite guilty about retiring that TV only 5 years into its life.
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24. May 2011 @ 05:37 |
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Had a 30" RCA CRT TV for about 5 years. Really nice unit, built into a wooden entertainment center(not the old cabinet TVs, like spots for VCRs and consoles and stuff). The thing took like 20 seconds to warm up but it had great IQ and was packed with features. Would do 1080i through component as well which was impressive. I used that for everything right up until I got my 32" LG :P
Was such a shame to get rid of it.
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