SONY LCD VS. SONT WEGA SXRD
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diabolos
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22. February 2006 @ 14:10 |
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Quote: Hey diabolos, is it worth using hdmi to hook up my cable to my tv if its not able to use 1080p?
Broadcasters don't and won't broadcast in 1080p only 720p and 1080i. That is why 99% of all tv sets forgo 1080p inputs. Its not a big deal, hook up your cable box with HDMI!
Quote: does component accept 1080p.
No.
Quote: is hooking the cable up through firewire better than component?
Hooking up a digital devices is always better when digital connections are used! Component Video is subject to signal loss that HDMI, DVI, and Firewire are not subject too. Since broadcasters don't broadcast in 1080p there is no advantage is hooking your tv up with firewire, use HDMI.
Use firewire with 1080p sources like HD-video cameras and Blu-Ray.
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mikej3131
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22. February 2006 @ 16:17 |
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thanks diabolos,
What is blue-ray? should use hdmi with dvd players?
Also does anybody know where i can get the control manual for gta : vice city. I have the computer gta vice city, but i have a controller for it and i need to know the controller setup for the playstation controller for vice city
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diabolos
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23. February 2006 @ 05:19 |
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mikej3131
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23. February 2006 @ 05:22 |
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Would i need a dvd upconverter if i had that sxrd wega tv?
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mikej3131
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23. February 2006 @ 05:26 |
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So blu - ray is a disk that stores better qyuality and more storage than dvd or cd?
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diabolos
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23. February 2006 @ 05:37 |
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Quote: Would i need a dvd upconverter if i had that sxrd wega tv?
No, but it is highly recommended since it has two HDMI ports. An upconverted movie looks 10 times better a non-upconverted movie (in my opinion).
OR
Wait and buy an HD-DVD player or Blu-ray player. Both formats support the DVD format and offer upconversion as a standard option on all their players.
Quote: So blu - ray is a disk that stores better qyuality and more storage than dvd or cd?
Yes.
More info (Blu-Ray)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray
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mikej3131
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23. February 2006 @ 06:32 |
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that pretty intesresting stuff. a couiple questions
It says "In addition, Blu-ray players are only allowed to output the full resolution video signal through encrypted interfaces. This means that early HDTVs sold without an HDCP-enabled interface (HDMI or HDCP-enabled DVI) will not be able to display high definition video from a Blu-ray disc. Analog output must be resampled to 960x540 for the same reason."
are all hdmi's hdcp enabled?
Wikipedia also said
"Blu-ray has an experimental security feature titled BD+ that allows for dynamically changing encryption schemes. Should the encryption be compromised, manufacturers can update the encryption scheme and put it on all new discs, preventing a single crack from opening up the entire specification for the duration of its lifetime. It also uses the Mandatory Managed Copy system allowing users to securely rip a file into a secure format, a feature originally requested by HP. [8] The lack of a dynamic encryption model is what made DeCSS so disastrous in the industry's eyes: once CSS was cracked, all DVDs from then on were crackable. See Advanced Access Content System (AACS).
The Blu-ray Disc Association also agreed to add digital watermarking technology to the discs. Under the name "ROM-Mark", this technology will be built into all ROM-producing devices, and prevent content from being reproduced in the event that a watermark is detected. Through licensing, the BDA believes that it can eliminate the possibility of mass producing BD-ROMs without authorization."
What does this all mean summed up in non technical terms?
one last thing they said was
"Because the Blu-ray standard places data so close to the surface of the disc, early discs were susceptible to dust and scratches and had to be enclosed in plastic caddies for protection. Such an inconvenience, the consortium worried, would hobble Blu-ray's adoption in the face of the rival HD DVD standard; HD DVDs can be handled bare (caddyless) like CDs and DVDs, making them familiar to consumers as well as attractive to manufacturers and distributors who might be deterred by additional costs of caddies.
The solution to this problem arrived in January 2004 with the introduction of a clear polymer coating that gives Blu-ray discs unprecedented scratch resistance. The coating, developed by TDK Corporation under the name "Durabis", allows BDs to be cleaned safely with only a tissue ? a procedure that can damage current CDs and DVDs. Presumably HD DVDs are similarly frail, as they are manufactured by the same process as the older optical media. Bare BDs with the coating are reportedly able to withstand attack by a screwdriver. [6]
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Are they saying hd dvd are going to be very fragile like the cd and dvd's out today. and that the blu ray disks will be very durable and last long?
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diabolos
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23. February 2006 @ 09:52 |
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Quote: are all hdmi's hdcp enabled?
No, but most sets made after 2003 are HDCP compatible and all the 2005 to present (2006) sets are HDCP compaitible so there is no need to worry (they must have HDMI or DVI inputs of course).
Quote: What does this all mean summed up in non technical terms?
What part, it is in non-technical terms? Do you know what a watermark is? BD-ROM just means store bought or rented discs. They are just saying that BD has beefed up security measuers that make it very hard (in their minds impossible) to decrypt copy protected content for illegal purposes.
Quote: Are they saying hd dvd are going to be very fragile like the cd and dvd's out today. and that the blu ray disks will be very durable and last long?
Yes,
BD is already out in Japan. In its past forms it had to be used inside a cartridge (similar to early CD-ROMs) because the bottom surface was very easy to scrach because it is so thin. Then TDK came up with a new technology that is basicly a chemical scratch guard. Using this new scratch guard BDs can now be used like CDs and DVDs, with-out a case. Also the scratch guard makes the BDs more durable than CDs or DVDs.
BD with and without cartridge (old type/new type)...
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mikej3131
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23. February 2006 @ 10:17 |
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ok so that sony wega sxrd is hdcp compatible
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diabolos
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23. February 2006 @ 10:56 |
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mikej3131
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23. February 2006 @ 11:26 |
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Does this sxrd have the "burn in" effect. Some guy told me at best buy that the reason why most plasma tv's dont have pc inputs is because something about a "burn in effect" i think he said. he said after using your pc to tv and you have a still image, you will have to keep the tv on about 30 minutes to get rid of that stil image. And he said lcd's do not have this problem.
Is this sxrd going to have this problem?
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diabolos
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23. February 2006 @ 15:51 |
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No, the only technologies that are subject to burn-in are Plasma and CRT., the SXRD is LCoS based. Your Best Buy customer specialist seems to be pedeling mis-information. 2005 and 2006 Plasmas have a very low risk of burn-in. Also most Plasmas have computer inputs! It takes several hours of a static image (still image) on screen to put a plasma panel at risk for burn-in. What most people experience is "Image Retention" which is totally reversable and non damaging to the tv set.
All of the newer sets have technology built-in that counteract abuse which helps to lower the risk of burn-in. Plus computer's use screen savers which "Save" the screen buy running a looping video so that burn-in doesn't occure. Don't be afraid of the Plasma technology. It is perfect for any home application especially when space is a commodity and a large screen is preferable.
As far as LCD, it sometimes has a problem with image retention. Image retention is when an image is show when the screen is turned off. The remedy is simple, turn the set back on and let it shut down properly.
Buy the SXRD!
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mikej3131
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23. February 2006 @ 15:56 |
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thanks again diabolos
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BigMike2
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27. February 2006 @ 18:58 |
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Daibolos, you Sir are a true credit to your profession. You have the patience of Job and the knowledge of Einstein. Thank you for the knowledge sharing.
Do you happen to work in the greater Wash. D.C. area?
Mike
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diabolos
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28. February 2006 @ 05:25 |
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Wow, Thankz a mill BigMike2, you made my day!
Sadly I don't. I'm a Bengals Boy ;)!
Thankz again,
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Hawk_Eye
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6. March 2006 @ 08:26 |
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This thread has been very informative as I am looking to buy SXRD and A/V receiver for it. I do have some questions.
1. Does SXRD up-scale all incoming video signals (s-video, HDMI, etc..)?
2. I heard that SXRD can receive 1080P data via i.link port? If this is true, will the up-scaling chip know that it is receiving 1080P signal, so it won't do anything?
3. Does this mean that the HDMI circuit of SXRD cannot pass 1080P signal to the core circuit of SXRD that projects the image due to the copyright issue?
4. if 1) is true, do I still need A/V receiver or DVD player that has built in up-scaler to display better picture? Does SXRD upscale the upscaled image?
Which one would display better picture?
1) DVD sends 720p (or lesser signal) to A/V receiver. A/V receiver sends 1080i to SXRD via HDMI. SXRD displays the signal in 1080P.
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2) DVD sends 720p (or lesser singal) to A/V receiver. A/V receiver sends 720p (or lesser signal) to SXRD via HDMI. SXRD displays the signal in 1080P.
5. PS3 appreantly can output 1080P signal via HDMI. How would SXRD treat the signal and process it if it cannot receive the singal?
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mikej3131
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6. March 2006 @ 11:55 |
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hey haw-eye,
wat is an i.link port? is that just the firewire port?
also, whart is an a/v reciever?
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diabolos
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6. March 2006 @ 17:10 |
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@ Hawk_Eye,
Some of your questions have already been answerd in this thread but since I hate unanswered questions...
Quote: 1. Does SXRD up-scale all incoming video signals (s-video, HDMI, etc..)?
Yes
See the Fixed Panel Display discussion.
Quote: 2. I heard that SXRD can receive 1080P data via i.link port? If this is true, will the up-scaling chip know that it is receiving 1080P signal, so it won't do anything?
Yes
If the signal is already in the tvs native resolution then there is no reason to scale!
See Fixed Panel Display discussion aswell and the 1080p via firewire discussion.
Quote: 3. Does this mean that the HDMI circuit of SXRD cannot pass 1080P signal to the core circuit of SXRD that projects the image due to the copyright issue?
No, it means that the designers of the SXRD didn't feel that 1080p via HDMI was a feature that the SXRD needed to have. 1080p over HDMI is possible!
See HDMI.org faq discussion.
Quote: 4. if 1) is true, do I still need A/V receiver or DVD player that has built in up-scaler to display better picture? Does SXRD upscale the upscaled image?
Up-scalling from the source and upscaling at the tv set are two slightly diffrent things. It is recommended that people with HDTV big screens buy DVD upconvertors because they all have Digital outputs. Digital connections are better when the source and display are digital. Meaning that when a digital connection is used the tv set can preform scaling (if needed) properly whithout any Digital to Analog to Digital conversion issues.
Quote: Which one would display better picture?
Setup option #2 would be best option in most cases.
Quote: 5. PS3 appreantly can output 1080P signal via HDMI. How would SXRD treat the signal and process it if it cannot receive the singal?
The Blu-Ray technology only allows for 1080p@24 fps. What that means is that the games, which are done at 60fps, will max out at 1080i!
As for the SXRD, your PS3 will be limited to 1080i even with movies encoded at 1080p. The SXRD will show nothing because the 1080p resolution is unsupported.
Remmember that these are only my educated assumptions about the PS3 and Blu-Ray from what I have read since the hardware hasn't matirialized yet.
@ mikej3131,
Quote: wat is an i.link port? is that just the firewire port?
also, whart is an a/v reciever?
Yes, i.Link is Firewire without power.
An A/V receiver is an Audio/Video receiver. You know that an Audio/Video receiver is right?
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BigMike2
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6. March 2006 @ 23:36 |
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Hey Diabolos, do you know when Sony puts out their next model year on TVs, especially this one. I'm looking at the July timeframe for buying one. Wuld like to see what the new model year brings us.
Mike
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mikej3131
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7. March 2006 @ 05:04 |
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Ok so how many firewire ports does the sxrd set have? to get 1080p, you would just hook up a firewire cable from my cable box to the tv or a firewire cable from my dvd player to the tv?
what is an audio video reciever?
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Hawk_Eye
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7. March 2006 @ 05:21 |
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Quote: Ok so how many firewire ports does the sxrd set have?
1 at the front and 2 at the back.
Quote: to get 1080p, you would just hook up a firewire cable from my cable box to the tv or a firewire cable from my dvd player to the tv?
Yup. The problem is, you are not going to find digital devices other than digital camera or digi video camera that have firewire video-out that goes to TV's firewire port. DVD players that have firewire output is for audio only. They do not pass video signal to it.
Quote: what is an audio video reciever?
it's a hub for home entertainment system.
i.e) google the following:
RX-V2600 -> this is what I am looking to buy.
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Hawk_Eye
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7. March 2006 @ 05:28 |
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BigMike
Quote: Hey Diabolos, do you know when Sony puts out their next model year on TVs, especially this one. I'm looking at the July timeframe for buying one. Wuld like to see what the new model year brings us.
I heard current sxrd will discountinue around in early Q3. The 2006 sxrd will come out Q4.
I got this info from avsforum.com and the person who said this is a big sony retailer.
But upcoming sxrd may still have HDMI 1080P input issue as HDCP issues are not resolved completely.
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mikej3131
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7. March 2006 @ 06:10 |
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so is the 06 version going to be alot better than the current?
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mikej3131
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7. March 2006 @ 06:20 |
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How about my comcast digital cable box. it is the motorolla box that has a firewire on it? is that firewire out and does it display video?
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diabolos
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7. March 2006 @ 09:09 |
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Quote: But upcoming sxrd may still have HDMI 1080P input issue as HDCP issues are not resolved completely.
1080p over HDMI is possible! It has nothing to do with HDCP. There are models available today that except 1080p signals via HDMI.
@ Hawk_Eye,
What HDCP issue has not been resolved completly?
You do realize that the i.Link port is HDCP complient aswell. HDCP is not something that is married to HDMI it is industry standard DRM for all Digital A/V connections.
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