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I realized that I don't actually get the speeds I select...
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zebadee
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7. May 2006 @ 01:05 |
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Hi,
dolphin2, I did realise this. Obviously not made it clear. In the Basic Information Panel, the write strategies of the disc are presented. However with BenQ in this box only the strats supported by the drive are listed (4). So when you look in Extended Information Panel, this displays the number of write strats supported by drive. Again (4).
With the Nec in the Basic Info Panel it lists all strats supported by the disc. Without applying the restrictions of the drive, hence (6). But in the Extended Info Panel, it lists the strats supported by Nec with this particular drive (4).
In the Extended Info Panel it is confusing, because when it says 4x. This is meant to mean 4 times (or 4 strats 4x 8x 12x 16x) not just 4 speed.
So put simply the disc supports 2.4 & 6x as well as 4x 8x 12x 16x. The drive doesn't.
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dolphin2
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7. May 2006 @ 01:41 |
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I guess I'm still confused. Why would the drive (BenQ) show/have restrictions? And then why wouldn't the NEC show 6 in the Extended Info Panel?
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zebadee
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7. May 2006 @ 07:04 |
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Hi,
When it comes to Basic Info.
One manufacturer believes in showing the 'real' disc strategies(Nec).
The other believes in showing only what options are available(BenQ).
While when it comes to Extended Info, obviously both show the drives available strategies.
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7. May 2006 @ 09:02 |
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Hi, Zebadee
I think I understand what you are trying to say, but then why does my drive not burn past 4x on a MCC-004? I can select 8x, 12x, or 16x, and it will only burn 4x.
EDIT: Here is DVDInfo Dolphin,
Seems to suggest I have more that one write strategy, but I don't know how to get the other ones to work..
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zebadee
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7. May 2006 @ 10:16 |
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Hi,
Draugr, I believe that what's happening in your is f/w related. If you have SolidBurn enabled, disable it & see what happens. If you don't have SB enabled then, you need to reflash the drive. For some reason the current flash hasn't taken properly. Maybe some background pc activity. To try & rule this out flash in safemode.
In fact if I was in your position, I would flash back (if possible) to a f/w earlier than the one I wanted. Then flash to the desired f/w. This sometimes works. It's as if there's a clearing out of the flash memory. If this has no affect on the drive, then two options left. Return the drive as faulty (although you'd need to try other media to be sure really). On the other hand you could throw caution to the wind & crossflash. Flash the Philips equivilant drive (1660) & back again this will void warranty. But can 'shake things up'. The result is not guaranteed to work, but I go through these processes before writing of a drive.
BTW My last resort is to flash in dos.
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7. May 2006 @ 11:19 |
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Hi,
I managed to get it to work @ 16x by reverting back to BCFC RPC1. I'll stick with this firmware for now, too many bad experiences with BCHC.
Thanks for the help everybody!
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zebadee
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7. May 2006 @ 11:31 |
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Hi,
Draugr, glad you got there. I posted somewhere on this forum, advising folks to stay clear of BCHC. Although it works for some, it's few & far between. I believe that it's overly critical of some media for some reason.
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7. May 2006 @ 12:09 |
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hi
great you sorted it!
but i may of had an answer for you! with OVERSPEED setting...
also try making an ISO to burn and use these speacial settings in IMGBURN by the maker of dvd decrypter...
Nothing here to see, move along folks.
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7. May 2006 @ 23:30 |
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@Draugr - nice one!. guess your old PSU just wasn't able to handle the stress after all. Am still gonna try and get to the bottom of the MCC004 not showing the info in Nero though :)
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8. May 2006 @ 11:43 |
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@Rotary
I wish I had seen that a lot earlier, but BCFC has it burning at 16x.
@Creaky
That's what I get for trying to save a few bucks going with a cheap PSU. :P
I'd be interested in seeing why it doesn't show it Nero too. I asked this a couple days ago, but have you tried RicohJPN R02's in Nero? It gives me the same one-liner as MCC-004.
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8. May 2006 @ 23:31 |
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nah, i only use Verbs or TY (or Verb TY!). i guess it's a 'funny' of the firmware then. my concern is partly that when decoding ppl's Nero logs i and others will have to be more careful when stating that a burner's firmware is lacking (if we see this burner in Nero logs anyways). ie this is the only drive i know of that seems to break the standard way that firmware displays the media info
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8. May 2006 @ 23:38 |
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hi
yes creaky chap this whole thing got me thinking? also my picture with solidburn etc (whats that?) WOPC <--- uh also?
times are a changin again need to stay focused...
Nothing here to see, move along folks.
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9. May 2006 @ 12:47 |
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Hi creaky,
Do you think it's trouble with DVD+R? I noticed the example you gave me on the first page was TYG02 which is in the dash format.. RicohJPN R02 and MCC-004 are +. Have you tried +R TY's and seen if they show up?
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9. May 2006 @ 23:22 |
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Hi, i do use +R TY, the Verbatim TY (YUDEN000T03's) but glad you reminded me, i had meant to burn one and post the Nero info. i've been away from my burner PC all week (woe is me) but am back tonight so will burn some and post a snippet then....
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10. May 2006 @ 11:18 |
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right, just did a 'multiple recorders' burn in my trusty Nero 6 -
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Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4163B, Meda type: DVD+R
Disc Manufacturer ID: YUDEN000, Media Type ID: T03, Product revision number: 0 -
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 7
- nice, just what i expected to see...
however, the other burn on the Benq.... -
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BENQ DVD DD DW1650, Media type: DVD+R
- not impressed. This was accompanied by - Quote:
SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x04A50600
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x24
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x12
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00
- shoddy is all i can say. i'm sure the burn will actually be ok, i'll watch it a bit later maybe, but hopefully Benq will slap the programmers around a bit and get the firmware reporting correctly soon. As anyone who knows me around AD will attest, i've delved into more than a few Nero logs and know that Nero (well Nero 6 anyway) reports a helluva lot of useful info in a burn logfile, and to see a burner giving crap media info in a log is plain shoddy.
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11. May 2006 @ 10:20 |
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Hey,
That's pretty weird. Thanks for testing it out Creaky, and hopefully BenQ will get their stuff straightened out!
Edit: I'm curious, do you know if people with Nero 7 are having the same problems?
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11. May 2006 @ 10:28 |
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no worries.
i don't use 7 so don't know..but as i say this has to be a firmware glitch, not a Nero problem...
haven't found any Nero 7 logs to compare yet..
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11. May 2006 @ 12:36 |
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Oh, ok. Thanks, Creaky. Time to let this thread DIE. :)
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