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25. November 2007 @ 23:27 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Wait you have three gigs of RAM and you don't buy a video card? lol
Lol... I know... I'm also running AMD Althon 64 X2 6000+ Processor...
But my dad just bought this computer like 3-4 weeks ago for my bro's and I... So not really aloud to put anything new in it, also... I'm kinda broke. If I were to buy it, no, it would not have integrated graphics.
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25. November 2007 @ 23:29 |
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Did it come with 3GB of RAM? That sounds unusual for a prebuilt PC...
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25. November 2007 @ 23:31 |
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8500 GTs are 50 bucks. Anyway later guys, I need some sleep.
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25. November 2007 @ 23:33 |
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Here's a neat little benchmark:
As Abuzar said, the 8500GT is nice and cheap, and look at how much it outperforms integrated graphics.
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25. November 2007 @ 23:37 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Did it come with 3GB of RAM? That sounds unusual for a prebuilt PC...
Yes, it came with 3GB's of RAM. It's a Media Center pc? xD. Have no clue if that makes any difference to how much RAM is in it...
But unfortunately I'm also running Windows Vista... which I'm not liking a whole lot, asks too many effen questions x_X.
'Would you like to move this file?' ... Yes.
'File Operation! Confirm that you want to move this file' ... Yes god dammit!!
Urgh...
To answer your other question, I have no clue where I'd find out if it's AGP or PCI Express... Suggestions as to where I'd find that?
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25. November 2007 @ 23:41 |
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Take a look at the bottom of the card, where the connectors are that plug it into the slot.
If it looks like the top graphics card in this photo, it's AGP. If it looks like the bottom one, it's PCI Express. If it doesn't look like either it's probably PCI.
You do know you can turn off the nagging prompts in Vista right?
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25. November 2007 @ 23:48 |
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Neither. So I'm guessing PCI? Is that bad? Sorry, I'm completely useless when it comes to video card knowledge.
Mind telling me the differences, or positive's and negative's of PCI and AGP?
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25. November 2007 @ 23:52 |
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Also, yes, I heard you can shut off Vista constant questions. But I do not know where that'd be :/.
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26. November 2007 @ 00:00 |
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Well, if it's PCI, the good news is it'll fit, the bad news is that it'll be intolerably slow. I'm not really sure it's worth bothering.
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26. November 2007 @ 00:03 |
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Ah. Kk. Well I never found it to be very slow in my old computer, then again it was probably the fastest thing running in it.
So if I installed it would the ATI Radeon 9550 and the integrated graphics... I donno... work together? xD. Again, I'm sorry for my lack on knowledge in this specific area...
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26. November 2007 @ 00:05 |
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Unfortunately no. The only advice I can really offer is to buy a new graphics card.
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26. November 2007 @ 00:09 |
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Kk, well that shouldn't be too hard to get. I can prolly just talk my bro into getting one later on.
Anywho, thanks for your help and time I prolly just wasted xD.
Lastly, any suggestions as to what video card I should be looking for?
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26. November 2007 @ 00:27 |
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It all depends what sort of games you want to play on the system. If I'm honest, 'the best you can afford' is the thing to go for, in this order. Avoid anything else, even if it seems better.
Go as far down the list as you can...
Geforce 8500GT
Geforce 8600GT
Geforce 8600GTS
Radeon HD3870
Geforce 8800GTX
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26. November 2007 @ 00:31 |
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Kk, thanks so very much again!
I'll def. look into these and see what I can.. well, afford. And I play a pretty large variety of games, so I'm wanting a fairly good one.
Thanks again.
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26. November 2007 @ 00:33 |
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As a general rule, the fastest card off that list you should really 'need' is the HD3870. The 8800GTX, while faster, is not as fast as the increase in price suggests. If anything, it's a bit of a 'bragging rights' card.
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26. November 2007 @ 00:51 |
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Ok cool.
Actually I just finished talking to my friend, who works at a pc shop in town and he said I need a PCI-Express x 16 card. So he's gonna hook me up with the best he can get,
So thanks again for all the help x)
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26. November 2007 @ 00:52 |
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Remember, badger him one for one on that list. Don't settle for something like a 7350LE, 7600GS or anything like that.
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26. November 2007 @ 00:56 |
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Yup! Will do.
Only they have none of those in the shop... so I'd have to go to buy it online, or possibly order. Which is no problem really.
Do you know the price range for the listed cards? I'm on a tight budget, no more than $20o-250 xP
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26. November 2007 @ 00:58 |
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They are all common graphics cards (although there is a shortage of HD3870s at the moment) so if the shop doesn't have any of them, I'd never buy a graphics card from that shop. The HD3870 is around $220 I believe. The cards below that are less.
Oh but don't forget, you MUST get a decent power supply if you're going with a powerful graphics card.
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3. December 2007 @ 10:22 |
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hey im new here.
looks like you guys are throwing around some good info.
i need some help, just bought a new PC. http://computers.pricegrabber.com/desktop/m/53299191/details/
im not sure if i can install a new graphics card in it
its got the 6150SE that yall know as junk.
i installed ut3 and it looks like the original DOOM.
it plays all my old games (RON, halo, etc.) but i wanna stick a new card in it.
its got a PCIx16 slot, do i only need a nicer card.
ive got an idea of how it works but no experience with it, do i just plug the new card in and install or what.
what would be a good one for me, i can spend a little but nothing crazy. i want the best one i can get without changing other stuff.
sorry for the long post, and thanks for the help
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3. December 2007 @ 10:34 |
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Hi there Awalk, and welcome!
The upgrading a prebuilt PC is a commonly tread path (I've been there), but there are a few things that you should be aware of.
Firstly, warranty info. Make sure you keep ALL the documentation for a prebuilt PC if you're modifying it, and if you ever remove any of the components to upgrade, keep them somewhere in good condition, so if you ever need to return the PC under warranty, you can sneak them back.
Case intrusion sensors are used by companies like HP to monitor people adding components to PCs, but they shouldn't be enough to void the warranty on their own.
The second is the power supply. Prebuilt PCs use basic, low end power supplies that get the job done but are neither powerful units nor well made. Consequently adding components to prebuilt units stresses the PSU significantly, and if overstressed they can break, sometimes with catastrophic consequences. Things like hard drives you will SOMETIMES be alright, but generally if you ever upgrade a premade PC with anything other than extra RAM or a single additional disk drive it is HIGHLY recommended you upgrade the power supply.
The one downside of this of course is that premade PCs are sometimes built such that you can't replace the power supplies in them. You should check whether you can upgrade the PSU in your HP before you proceed any further.
The good news, however, is that the rest of the PC is powerful and with a good graphics card will be able to play any current game you can throw at it. I particularly like the fact it has 3GB of RAM in it, not a feature I often see these days in standard prebuilt units.
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3. December 2007 @ 11:19 |
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THANKS FOR THE INFO SAM,
i see yalls talk about video cards and chipsets are they the same or does the card plug into the chipset?
could i trouble ya for a few links and info that i should look for in a card? is something like this what i should get? 8600GT
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3. December 2007 @ 11:27 |
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Think of the chipset as like a mini version of the processor that's on your PC's main circuit board (a.k.a. motherboard). it sends info to and from the processor about the USB ports, Integrated Sound, S-ATA and IDE (Hard and CD/DVD drives), floppy drives etc. a bit like the CPU's messenger to all the components in the PC.
The graphics card plugs into the motherboard via a PCI Express 16x slot, a long coloured slot (the colour's irrelevant, it's just for style) designed for ultra-high bandwidth uses, such as a graphics card.
The 8600GT is an example of a low-midrange graphics card, often used by gamers on a lower budget. Whilst it has the vast majority of the features found on high-end cards, its performance is very low by comparison.
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3. December 2007 @ 11:40 |
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thanks for explaining that sam.
is there a big difference between the 8600GT and the 8600GTS
id like to stay a fair amount under $200.
i wanna play UT3 with decent graphics
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3. December 2007 @ 12:14 |
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The 8600GTS is hugely faster than the 8600GT. I'd recommend you get one of those if you can afford it.
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