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18. March 2009 @ 15:08 |
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i did 6 Passes on memtest86 and no errors have show up, So the ram insnt the problem
it cant be the
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-psu
-hds (obviously)
-CDD (duh)
-motherboard heating up
-cpu heating up
The only thing I can think of so far is the
-gfx overheating
-gfx corrupted or broken
-motherboard is broken
-or processor is corrupt
Can anyone suggest anything else? im returning the 1000watt and going back to the 850 soon
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21. March 2009 @ 05:58 |
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You've tried various different drivers?
At the moment, I'm tempted to say faulty card, what brand is it? (Powercolor, Sapphire, HIS etc.)
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21. March 2009 @ 13:53 |
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What drivers are you talking about? which drivers do you want me to try? I have a Diamond 4870x2
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21. March 2009 @ 22:25 |
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Why don't you try feeding your CPU a bit more vCore? You never know; the CPU could just be a bad batch. Crysis being such a big CPU eater can just push the CPU over the limit. I guess you can set it, and lock it at a vCore as high as possible (as high as AMD recommends).
- Checked, highest vCore that AMD recommends is 1.3V (9850). Try going into the BIOS and setting it there. If it reboots, BSOD occurs or freezing occurs, we know that it probably has nothing to do with the CPU; unless the CPU you bought was the worst of the worst!
Try it out! And tell us what you discovered...
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22. March 2009 @ 03:33 |
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Originally posted by GenesisX:
Why don't you try feeding your CPU a bit more vCore? You never know; the CPU could just be a bad batch. Crysis being such a big CPU eater can just push the CPU over the limit. I guess you can set it, and lock it at a vCore as high as possible (as high as AMD recommends).
- Checked, highest vCore that AMD recommends is 1.3V (9850). Try going into the BIOS and setting it there. If it reboots, BSOD occurs or freezing occurs, we know that it probably has nothing to do with the CPU; unless the CPU you bought was the worst of the worst!
Try it out! And tell us what you discovered...
GenesisX
Thanks for joining in and helping out. I checked my bios and the vcore is currently on 1.304, do you want me to push past that? how do I push it past 1.3?
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22. March 2009 @ 15:31 |
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Oh, in that case, never mind then =D. You aren't overclocking, so that's good... Do you have any other video cards handy? Why don't you try one? Integrated graphics? Anything? It's good to see if it is actually your video card? Or did you guys already prove that it is already?
EDIT: I thought you that you can actually over volt it... For instance, I can push my 2180 over its VID, which is 1.55V to even 1.7. Man, I really need to find a vDroop location for my motherboard!!! Stupid P5K-SE
Genesis PC - E2180 @ 3.15 Ghz (315 x 10) 1.55vCore (vDroop unsuccessful / lapping pending) // nVidia 7600GT // 2x 1GB Ram // 160 GB WD 7200 // 19" Samsung // 500 Watt Generic // G15 Rev 2007 // MS Sidewinder
Spiritia - Intel Celeron @ 571 mhz // 512 MB DDR2 // 2 GB SSD HD // 16GB SHDC Card as HD1 // 16GB USB Stick // 1.5 GB Pagefile on eBoostr // 7" Screen Stock
---> Known as the EEE PC =D
Mythbeliever - SCPH 7500x // 37" Bravia // Driving Force GT
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22. March 2009 @ 15:43 |
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Originally posted by GenesisX:
Oh, in that case, never mind then =D. You aren't overclocking, so that's good... Do you have any other video cards handy? Why don't you try one? Integrated graphics? Anything? It's good to see if it is actually your video card? Or did you guys already prove that it is already?
EDIT: I thought you that you can actually over volt it... For instance, I can push my 2180 over its VID, which is 1.55V to even 1.7. Man, I really need to find a vDroop location for my motherboard!!! Stupid P5K-SE
yea its not overclocked, in fact, i just used amd overdrive 2.15 to overclock my processor, and i used the autotune feature and it does nothing more then freeze the entire pc, i dont know what i was doing wrong, but i thinking i probably forgot to do something before i started autotune.
but as of now, I dont have an integrated gfx, and im only using a 4870x2, my brother does have a 5500fx gfx from nvidia, but its super old and slow, and will run none of the games I currently have, this is really starting the became a pain in the ass
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22. March 2009 @ 17:21 |
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The FX5500 wouldn't fit anyway, it's AGP.
Go to the AMD website and go to support -> download graphics drivers and get a more recent version. That may help. However, at the moment I'm set on faulty GPU or Motherboard (You'd be surprised how many motherboards aren't up to the job of running X2s)
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22. March 2009 @ 17:32 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
The FX5500 wouldn't fit anyway, it's AGP.
Go to the AMD website and go to support -> download graphics drivers and get a more recent version. That may help. However, at the moment I'm set on faulty GPU or Motherboard (You'd be surprised how many motherboards aren't up to the job of running X2s)
actually fx5500 is pci, ati catalyst 9.3 came out 4 days ago, im going to give this a try and see what happens.
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22. March 2009 @ 17:34 |
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Wow, even older then!
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23. March 2009 @ 03:20 |
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tried the newest version of catalyst 9.3 and it does the same thing on crysis warhead. Im going to try to return my gfx and get the exact same one, and if that dosent solve it, then my motherboard, and if that dosent solve it, commiting suicide might be next
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23. March 2009 @ 08:08 |
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Right, yeah try return for the GPU, then the board (in that order as the GPU is easier to swap out). Bad luck, but stick with it. :)
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2. May 2009 @ 18:16 |
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OK I just recently purchased a 4890 from diamond and I tried it out, surprisingly it runs everything pretty smooth on Crysis AND it also fixed the crashing problems I have been experiencing, So it seems like my graphics card is defective, I will go and get it replaced from the warranty I have and borrow the 4890 from the store for a while and swap it out with other ones in the store for now.
But that still leads to one question, Since I already have the waterblock for my 4870x2 Can you suggest what other parts I should get to go with the custom water system I still want to build =D?
I need:
tubes
radiator
waterblock for my 9850 phenom black edition
pump
reservoir
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Can I get a suggestion from anyone?
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Well, a Thermochill Rad, D-Tek pump, Swiftech Apogee block and XSPC rad would be my recommendations, but while WC'ing the CPU may not be a bad idea, I assure you, you don't NEED to watercool a 4870X2 unless you want the noise down.
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3. May 2009 @ 17:09 |
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having the noise down would be fantastic, i would the computer to be silent but deadly...
I found this site that sells the pump
http://www.jab-tech.com/dB-1-Compact-12v-Pump-pr-3758.html#buynow
But its asking mre for a barb size... what sizeshould i be getting? im lost with this whole fittings barbs and tubings part
And another thing that happend was that, when I was playing crysis with my case closed without having the fan at 100%, it crashed for the first time after 45 minutes of playing.
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3. May 2009 @ 17:51 |
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Quarter inch ideally. So you're saying you still get crashes with a different card?
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3. May 2009 @ 18:14 |
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yep, it didnt crash with the fan at 100% and case open for 4 hours, it didnt crash with the fan in dynamic and case open, but it did crash after 45 minutes playing with the case closed and fan on dynamic (dynamic meaning the computer controlls the fan no me)
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It sounds more like a chipset overheat problem to me.
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6. May 2009 @ 05:00 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
It sounds more like a chipset overheat problem to me.
it crashed playing demigod for 2 hours with the case closed, how is my chipset over heating? didnt we just install the new heatsink? what should i do? replace my m/b it crashes less then before possibly because this gfx generates heat less then my 4870x2, but its still crashing, and its very annoying. Can I get more suggestions please? So it cant be my gfx, if I had my custom watercooling system ready then i bet that the overheating problem would be gone since all the heat is transfered out of my case, correct?
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It could be a chipset bandwidth problem. I've had boards in the past that were unstable due to the graphics cards I installed. You could try a different motherboard. Not a particularly easy fix, but chipset cooling having been replaced, the card changed, it's either drivers (use catalyst 9.3 or 9.4, you shouldn't have any stability problems, I don't), Power supply, or the motherboard.
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6. May 2009 @ 17:14 |
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It can't be drives because I had 9.2 9.3 and the latest version and it crashed it can't bey gfx since I switched it out it can't bey mb overheating because I bought the wildfire heatsink and it can't be my psu because I replaced I with my 1000 watt corsair and it can't bey ram because I did a memtest86
So your saying Its my motherboard that I should replace?
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6. May 2009 @ 18:30 |
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9.2 was bloody awful. 9.3 is stable though.
On the basis of the other issues I'd try changing the board.
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6. May 2009 @ 23:13 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
9.2 was bloody awful. 9.3 is stable though.
On the basis of the other issues I'd try changing the board.
just recently my pc crashed and windows booted up showing this
Check for ATI Graphics Driver updates
This problem was caused by ATI Graphics Driver, which was created by ATI Technologies, Inc.. There is no solution for this problem at this time.
Troubleshooting
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A driver update, if available, might prevent this problem from recurring.
What is a driver?
A driver is software that allows your computer to communicate with hardware or devices. Without drivers, the hardware you connect to your computer (for example, a video card or a webcam) will not work properly.
There are several ways of locating and installing driver updates, but it is best to let Windows do this for you. Try the first step below, which describes the process. If it doesn't produce a driver update that solves the problem, then try the remaining steps in the order given.
Check for optional third-party updates
Even if all critical updates have been installed on your computer, optional updates might be available for ATI Graphics Driver that have yet to be installed. Here's how to use Windows Update to check for and install optional driver updates:
Open Windows Update:
Windows Update
In the left pane, click Check for updates to see if there are any optional updates available for your computer.
If no new optional updates are available, go to step 2.
If optional updates are available, click View available updates (if you do not see this option, you might have to click Check online for updates from Microsoft Update).
Windows Update or Microsoft Update will list any updated drivers that are available for devices installed in your computer.
Select any optional updates that are listed (especially if they appear to be graphics related), and then click Install. If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
Try updating ATI Graphics Driver manually
If no optional PRODUCT_NAME updates were available in Windows Update, you can try updating ATI Graphics Driver manually.
Note
It's best to let Windows install drivers for your hardware automatically, as described in step 1 above.
If you decide to manually update ATI Graphics Driver, here's how to do it:
Click to open Device Manager. If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
In Device Manager, double-click Display adapters, and then double-click the name of the device running ATI Graphics Driver.
Click the Driver tab, and then click Update Driver.
When asked how you want to search for driver software, click Search automatically for updated driver software.
Windows will locate and install a new driver if one is available.
Check the ATI Technologies, Inc. website for driver updates
If no optional ATI Graphics Driver updates were available in Windows Update, go online to the following website to check for driver updates:
ATI Technologies, Inc.
How to manually update a driver using a downloaded file
Click to open Device Manager. If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
In Device Manager, locate the device you want to update, and then double-click the device name.
Click the Driver tab, and then click Update Driver.
When asked how you want to search for driver software, click Browse my computer for driver software.
Click Browse, locate where you placed the new driver on your computer, click OK, and then click Next. Windows will locate and install the new driver.
Note
If you are running the latest version of ATI Graphics Driver and are still experiencing the problem, we recommend that you contact ATI Technologies, Inc. or the manufacturer for additional information and support.
Check your computer manufacturer's website for driver updates
If ATI Graphics Driver was preinstalled on your computer, check your computer manufacturer's website for driver updates.
How do I find my computer manufacturer?
Click the Start button , type msinfo32 in the Search box, and then press ENTER. Your computer manufacturer is listed as the System Manufacturer in the right pane of the System Information window.
Click to go online to see contact information for most computer manufacturers
How to manually update a driver using a downloaded file
Click to open Device Manager. If you are prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation.
In Device Manager, locate the device you want to update, and then double-click the device name.
Click the Driver tab, and then click Update Driver.
When asked how you want to search for driver software, click Browse my computer for driver software.
Click Browse, locate where you placed the new driver on your computer, click OK, and then click Next. Windows will locate and install the new driver.
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Completely uninstall all ATI software then install the driver again.
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7. May 2009 @ 13:28 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Completely uninstall all ATI software then install the driver again.
I did that when I installed the 4890 I can do I again for the he'll of it. Which version do you want me to install?
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