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28. February 2009 @ 02:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Im rebuilding my entire cooling system on my computer, I have a
Cosmos case
AMD Phenom 9850 Black Edition
4870x2
and then the rest is useless stuff like 4 gigs of ram and 2T of space
currently im running a nautilus 500, and im going to replace it with a custom cooling system

The reason im doing this is because I dont want the Nautilus outside my pc anymore and going to replace it with one that goes all inside.

And also my computer crashes playing games because my gfx 4870x2 get wayyyy to hot, and it wont automatically adjust the fan speed like ive seen other cards do, So i manually use expertool from ati to blast the fan at 100%, but its still not enought... so im going to replace the entire fan with this:

EK Full Cover Nickle Waterblock for 4870x2....

I bought the thing but what I need help with is choosing the rest of the stuff... I dont have fitting tubes or anything. Can you guys help me out and tell me whats good to get?

Im using arctic silver 5 thermal compound for all my waterblocks

Im just going to cool down my 4870x2 and my amd 9850 black edition

What waterblock should I get for the 9850

What resirvor should i get that will fit nicely in the cosmos case?

and what radiator should I get that will fit nicely inside there 2....

ANd the most important part is choosing the fittings, I'm completely lost with the fittings terminology and need help choosing it for my cooling, Please choose good high end products, and dont go over board telling me to get a magicool extreme 4 radiator which is way to big and which I dont need for a 4870x2 and 1 processor...

Thanks in advance.!

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28. February 2009 @ 11:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A common mistake people make with the Radeons is when they get crashes, they assume it's due to overheats, even if they still occur when they up the fan speed. This is almost never the case. Upgrade to Catalyst 9.2 drivers from the ATI website, make sure your chipset is properly cooled, and make sure you have a good enough power supply.



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28. February 2009 @ 14:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok this is going to be my test. Im goign to upgrade to 9.2 and turn off expertool with my case closed and no external fan, and see if its going to crash the system. If it does crash, and sooner, then that means that I have a heating problem, I hope the new 9.2 version fixed the fan so it can automatically ajust depending on heat.

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28. February 2009 @ 15:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It does automatically adjust, I've never seen a case where it hasn't. Either you can't hear it, or ther's something wrong with the fan. Remember, expertool has a minimum of 50% which is quite noisy. Under a lot of games the fan doesn't go above 40% which you might not hear behind the rest of your system.



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28. February 2009 @ 15:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I see, i probably wasnt able to see it. So far the new drivers are stable, im going to try a game that drains my PC and heats it up insanely, probably Crysis.

BTW I still got the waterblock standing next to me and still need the rest of the parts to watercool my computer because my room gets way to hot playing games and I hate sweating playing them.

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28. February 2009 @ 15:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lol? What makes you think using watercooling will make your PC put out any less heat?



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28. February 2009 @ 15:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can anyone suggest any parts I can get along with my nickle ek 4870x2, like a radiator, waterblock for my 9850 and a pump.?

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28. February 2009 @ 17:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It still crashes I just tried a game and it still crashes the entire system.

Can someone suggest me some radiators pumps and cpuwater blocks that go great with my ek 4870x2

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28. February 2009 @ 17:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
Lol? What makes you think using watercooling will make your PC put out any less heat?
w/e as long as I can play games again, I hate it when it crashes and then I start loseing my save state.

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28. February 2009 @ 19:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah well, as I say, I don't think it's heat causing the crash.



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28. February 2009 @ 19:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
what can be causing my crash? I just updated my drivers. and it only happens playing games..

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28. February 2009 @ 21:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
IS your system overclocked? What motherboard, case and power supply do you have?



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1. March 2009 @ 03:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
IS your system overclocked? What motherboard, case and power supply do you have?

System is not overclocked whatsoever
I have a Cosmos 1000 case
And a 850 Watt Antec TruePower Quattro
and a MSI K9A2 CF motherboard

the rest of the components are
1 cd/drive
3 hd +1 external drive =4
4 gigs of ram running on vista 64bit
all the fans that came with the case
1 Nautilus 500 cooling down my 9850
4870x2
9850 black edition

I still dont understand why its crashing

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1. March 2009 @ 04:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
just incase it was my motherboard drivers I went to

http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=...=1&prod_no=1333

and installed

ATI System Drivers for RS690/RD780/RD790/RX780/RX780/RS740/SB600/SB700
and
AMD AMDAway Driver

the rest were useless, like ethernet, which I installed through windows update and realtek hd audio, which I manualy installed (latest version)
the cool and quiet isnt supported on vista 64bit
and the ati raid drivers wont be needed because I dont have a raid configuration.

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1. March 2009 @ 18:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Got the latest chipset driver for your motherboard?



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2. March 2009 @ 04:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yea I updated it, and tested it out with Crysis,and it still crashes, but it seemed to crash less on other games, so mabye I had 2 problems, a heat issue and chipset driver issue, but as of now, I did update every driver on my comp

m/b
audio
and gfx driver

But crysis still crashes.

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2. March 2009 @ 11:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How exactly does the crash occur?



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2. March 2009 @ 13:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The crash only occurs playing intense games like crysis, crysis warhead, and gta, and sometimes in other games after playing a long time

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2. March 2009 @ 13:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sorry, I meant how, not when - what happens when you get the crash?



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2. March 2009 @ 19:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The entire image freezes, and rarely a bsod comes up, but mostly 95% of the time it freezes the image of the game and nothing happens

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2. March 2009 @ 19:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sounds like chipset instability above anything else. What motherboard do you have?



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2. March 2009 @ 19:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
MSI K9A2 CF motherboard

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2. March 2009 @ 19:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
That board does have a rather small chipset cooler. Try the card in the bottom slot.



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2. March 2009 @ 19:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I dont think the bottom slot works, I think this motherboard requires the top one.

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2. March 2009 @ 19:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
PCI express 16x slots always work (unless the board is faulty), you're just recommended to use the top one as it gets slightly better bandwidth, but try the bottom slot, as it will help in the troubleshooting process.



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