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Is Sony preparing to contain the Revolution?!!!
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25. February 2006 @ 03:48 |
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This Macromedia employee is saying that Sony will refresh the slim PS2, by selling it with the eye toy and a "revolution style controller". He also said that Macromedia is working with Sony to create a Flash Lite game downloading service for both PSP and PS3, to counter Live Arcade and the Revolution's bakcward games download service. It's all rumors, but check it out:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=24355287
Oh, and I forgot: $99 price target(New PS2). If it's true, that is.
Razengan!!!
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dg089
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25. February 2006 @ 18:55 |
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This just seems like a sorry attempt to copy nintendo. They are trying to show everyone that the ps3 is better in my opinion.
cheers,
DG
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25. February 2006 @ 22:09 |
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the slim PS2 with a eyetoy and a free eyetoy game will be a really good strategy. for 99$ yeah..
i can see the PS2 reaching the 110 million mark with that in a few years.
other then that alot of people will get familiar with the eyetoy and they would probably be more interested in buying the new eyetoy for PS3.
yep very good stuff.
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Jkhmmr
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26. February 2006 @ 03:46 |
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Sounds like a very good marketing strategy if it's true.
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oofRome
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26. February 2006 @ 20:49 |
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I hope this is a fake.
For Nintendo's sake and for Sony's sake. That's just rediculous.
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27. February 2006 @ 03:29 |
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Interesting link Razengan, nice one.
I just can't see anyone wanting to buy a refreshed PS2 what with the 360 being out, PS3 and Revolution coming out during the year.
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Your knees'll start shaking and your fingers pop
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27. February 2006 @ 05:44 |
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We'll have to wait and see. I remember Sony releasing the PSONE, after the PS2 debut. Many people wanted it just because it was smaller, even when it wasn't portable until the battery was released about a year later.
It might work because if the PS2 was able to beat the original XBOX, and the Rev will probably be just a tad more powerful than the XBOX, then it could at least stand a chance before the rev.
I'm not saying that it will be better than the Rev, but if they get the controller and the price right, people might go for it. Also, Nintendo refuses to support HDTV resolutions with the Rev, but some PS2 games already support 1080i and Progressive scan. That could be another point in Sony's favor.
Razengan!!!
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27. February 2006 @ 08:58 |
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if this is true, Sony just lost some serious PR points with me. Nintendo was right to be caucious about competitors stealing ideas
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Jkhmmr
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28. February 2006 @ 03:10 |
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Uhhhh why would it lose PR points???? Doesn't make sense. The whole point is that Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft are all competing with each other to control the entire game console market. Even hanhelds. There are rumors that on March 2 Microsoft will unveil its own handheld. Will that mean Microsoft loses PR points with you too???? Just because one company started doing something new doesn't mean other companies won't follow them. If they didn't we'd all only have one brand of products.
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bubsy
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6. March 2006 @ 09:13 |
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they lose PR points with me because its stealing the idea. Nintendo was innovative enough n tried something new, so Sony is just gonna steal it? thats grimy.
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6. March 2006 @ 12:40 |
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yo bubs that how it goes, one person comes with one idea and then someone else takes it to another level. look when grand theft auto came out, and now look at how many games came after built off that idea, or look at max payne and how a lot of games use bullet time slow mo now. its gonna always be like that.
I personally don't agree with the title. The fact is the only reason rev is gonna have a chance is cause it is going to be the cheaper system of the 3 which is the way gamecube is now but it isnt helping them much. If rev wants a chance in the next-gen console market, they are going to need some good games. Other than metroid and viewtiful joe i don't use my gamecube much. and the same will probably happen to the rev. being able to download the classic games wont be a novelty to me as i have most of those games already on my pc and psp.
And microsoft would be really dumb to start putting effort into a handheld. If i were them id worry about my 600k unit launch which is dismal rather than trying to compete in the handheld market. 52 percent of the handheld market last year went to the gameboy advance alone, does microsoft really want to go up against that? They already have their hands full with ps3.
Thats my 7 cents on all you guys had to talk about thus far
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Jkhmmr
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7. March 2006 @ 02:30 |
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Joeva I doubt we can convince him otherwise. Microsoft probably has a billion negative PR points with him for stealing other company's ideas. He seems like the kind of person who hates all mobile phone companies except the one that invented it. He probably knows the company that invented toilet paper and cuts off PR points off all the other toilet paper manufacturers.
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bubsy
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9. March 2006 @ 16:14 |
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ur an idiot... its not about convincing me, i love sony. i sold my Cube for a ps2. im not a hater. im just sayin its kind of a cheap shot. theres a huge diff between copying the analog idea and copying this one
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drluv
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12. March 2006 @ 16:15 |
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they would lose just as much PR points as would "pepsi with lime" did for stealing the "coke with lime" idea. ZIP. they are all vaiing for a position in the console game market just as heavely as pepsi and coke are battleing it out on the softdrink market. or how republicans and democrats... better if i leave politics out of this...
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dorian614
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14. March 2006 @ 14:56 |
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busby, this is nothing new. Nintendo was the first company with a 4 button controller. The first company with shoulder buttons.. the first company with an analog stick.. the first company with a rubmle pack.. the first company with a wireless controller..
Everyone, especially Sony, has been using Nintendo's innovations since the beginning of the first true console wars.
You shouldn't be surprised by this.
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Jkhmmr
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15. March 2006 @ 03:24 |
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It doesn't bloody matter. Who cares who started it??? You're all making Nintendo the hapless victim. Like it isn't even strong enough to fight back. You think they're cowering in a corner and whimpering because Sony is taking after them and trying to go after the same market the Revolution is???? They don't bloody care. They don't mind competition. I doubt they go around whining that they started all the innovations of consoles. It's not like thye have exclusive rights to it. If only the company that innovated a product was the only one to sell it then it'd be a monopoly and I doubt anyone would want that. Except maybe you two. And bubsy it is about convincing you. Convincing you that copying ideas is not a brand new thing and it actually leads to progress.
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15. March 2006 @ 21:15 |
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I agree jk. his statement is definitly off base. I guess adam and eve are the only cool people since they were here first. Nintendo was very innovative however, over the years they havent been as innovative and this equals the reason why they aren't doing well.
They are a victim of themselves. As they comeout with that first great idea but don't progress.
Its not a complete loss however, they dominate the handheld market, for now.
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oofRome
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20. March 2006 @ 17:03 |
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It's funny whoever brought up that pepsi - coca cola thing, because I was dissappointed in pepsi. I think that pepsi should've come up with their own thing instead of blatently ripping off cocacola. It just seems wrong that some companies get away with continuously using someone else's ideas instead of focusing on what they can contribute themselves.
I'm actually surprised at how many of you don't appreciate the idea of originality.
As a songwriter, I would be unbelievably pissed off if someone liked what I did and then copied me for their own personal gain. Now even acknowledging my work would make it that much worse.
edit** I would also like to point that I think this rumor is completely false, but it's an important underlining idea.
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Jkhmmr
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22. March 2006 @ 17:36 |
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You're thinking of it in the wrong way. We do appreciate the idea of originality. What we're arguing here that you don't seem to get is that even though one company innovated something another company will copy it and might even make it better. We're okay with that and believe it will lead to more competition which will lower prices increase productivity and encourage both sides to be innovative to compete with each other while they're selling the basically same product. Like what with the XBox 360, PS3 and Nintendo Revolution. You could say basically that they're all branched off from the very first console ever made and now they're very different from each other in many ways. But according to bubsy the company that made the first console should be the only company selling consoles and all the other companies that "copied" it and modified it lose PR points and are bad people. What he doesn't get is that that would drastically slow down the growth and development of products. Like with the iPod. They basically have no real competition so they're not really changing their iPod much because basically what's the point. It's only going to compete with itself. But if another company got really popular and competed well with the iPod I'm sure Apple would be working overtime to think of more innovative things for the iPod to do than play videos. So basically we're saying innovating ideas is great but copying and modifying those ideas is better because it leads to development and progress and no monopolies are created. You should study up a bit on Economics or something.
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22. March 2006 @ 18:25 |
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Is this suppose to make people not buy the Revolution? Honestly, who the hell doesn't already have a PS2? You can be below the poverty line and that is still not an excuse to not have a PS2.
Re: Sony ripping off Nintendo
I hate to have to bring this up again but here I go:
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23. March 2006 @ 03:38 |
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that was so immature, you sound like nintendos jealous girlfriend..
i find this so petty when ppl say you copied this and u copied that.. its so childish..
if its not patented or copywritten its fair game..
nintendo set a standard and thats all they did..
no system comes without an analog now,but it wasnt stolen.
3rd party developers are band-wagoners they go where the money is.... which is why they went to sony..
like i said nintendo is only a victim of themselves
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Jkhmmr
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23. March 2006 @ 04:59 |
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I agree with everything except the Nintendo being a victim of itself. I doubt it minds the competition. I think that they know that they can never hold a monopoly over the market. And the competition is good for everyone. And it's not like Apple is going around bitching that Microsoft stole their idea of the GUI. Competition is good. And competiton has to be among similar products so it makes sense they copy each other and improve things or modify them. The people arguing against us really need to start studying Economics. They'd understand it much much better then and have to go over to our side.
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23. March 2006 @ 10:34 |
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i said nintendo is only a victim of themselves because ppl try and victimize nintendo and say sony stole this and that and that is why they are winning. my point is if nintendo is a victim it is of themselves for not progressing on their own innovative ideas..
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Jkhmmr
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24. March 2006 @ 23:34 |
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Not progressing on their innovative ideas!?!? I'd think the DS and Revolution are very innovative ideas. I'd not consider getting the DS though but it's still a great idea.
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25. March 2006 @ 00:34 |
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Which is why the DS reigning supreme in every country but the US.
However, with my statement I was talking about their consoles, not handheld.
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