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19. April 2008 @ 04:51 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-053-SA
Undeniably tempting, but I'm unfortunately not in the financial position to take that up at the moment.
arghhhh, if i'd have waited a few months i'd have 11 1TB drives now instead of 500GB drives. Ah well, looks like i'll just start replacing them piecemeal :)
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19. April 2008 @ 07:36 |
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Abuzar: It took you that long? lol he's been doing it for ages, I knew of the brand when I first saw his username, so I assumed he'd taken it from there.
Mort: Indeed you do, no worries about cooling with that! :)
Creaky: it's what I'm starting to do with 250s... I'm thinking of upping straight to a 750 at present, can't quite manage the shell out for a TB drive just yet, and I think 750GB will do fine for my games drive. Don't forget though, if you wait a few months for something new, you'll still get screwed, you'd have to keep on waiting as things keep moving on - you'd never buy anything!
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19. April 2008 @ 07:37 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
arghhhh, if i'd have waited a few months i'd have 11 1TB drives now instead of 500GB drives. Ah well, looks like i'll just start replacing them piecemeal :)
Wish I lived near the Creakster. lol. I'd have to sweet talk him outta couple of 500GB HDD's!! hehehe. :P
creaky you really should reprimand SAMMY for posting such temptations. :D
@all,
I'm looking at a WestingHouse 19" LCD (standard NOT WS) monitor for $166 OTD from a local retailer. It has 5ms response but I can't remember the model #. Any ideas on that brand. I'll see about getting more info. Sorry for that. :S
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19. April 2008 @ 07:42 |
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Lol the Pixel count is actually slightly higher with a standard aspect 19" to a widescreen one - 1280x1024=1.311 Megapixels, 1440x900=1.296 Megapixels.
Reprimand me if you must, but if anybody's in the market for some big storage, what can I say? Sure it's overclockers, but at £20 less than anywhere else, it's worth the hassle, isn't it?
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19. April 2008 @ 09:58 |
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@ Greensman I've got the 20.1 Westinghouse I bought at BB on sale for $199 (also have their 32") I'd recommend it since I think it' better than my proview and my Viewsonic.That price is awfully good compared to what I originally paid for my 19" models.Chris
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19. April 2008 @ 11:18 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Lol the Pixel count is actually slightly higher with a standard aspect 19" to a widescreen one - 1280x1024=1.311 Megapixels, 1440x900=1.296 Megapixels.
Reprimand me if you must, but if anybody's in the market for some big storage, what can I say? Sure it's overclockers, but at £20 less than anywhere else, it's worth the hassle, isn't it?
I'm guessing that's good then. :P lol
Oh you're on the right path for a smacked bottom. :D creaky you start... hehehe.
Thanks Chris. I believe I may have a new monitor in my very near future. :D
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19. April 2008 @ 12:56 |
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Hey guys, this pretty much proves Anandtech is full of bullshit. They have a Freezer 7 Pro cooling BETTER than a Thermalright 120 Extreme!
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19. April 2008 @ 12:57 |
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Lolol, that is a bit broken...
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19. April 2008 @ 13:09 |
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looks good to me on that test.. my coolermaster is right at the top...cool.lol
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19. April 2008 @ 13:17 |
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lol
What a bullcrap test.
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19. April 2008 @ 13:20 |
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19. April 2008 @ 13:38 |
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Lol - a picture where words would do... Creaky and ddp are almost like opposite ends of the spectrum!
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19. April 2008 @ 13:40 |
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the arctic cooling freezer 7 pro is a good cooler (especially for the money) but there is absolutely no way it cools better than a TR ultra 120 extreme....................................
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19. April 2008 @ 13:50 |
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Indeedy. I owned both and I get 4C lower full load temps at a 150mhz higher overclock using a 600rpm 120mm fan versus the full 2700rpm of the Freezer. No chance. Oh, and I'm also using the Ultra-120A, not even the extreme.
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19. April 2008 @ 16:08 |
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abuzar1,
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Hey guys, this pretty much proves Anandtech is full of bullshit. They have a Freezer 7 Pro cooling BETTER than a Thermalright 120 Extreme!
I ran into the same argument between the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro and the Zalamn 9500. I've said many times that the FS-7 Pro was overall, the better cooler. Where the FS-7 Pro shines is when the ambient temperatures get above 29C as it just does a better job cooling than the 9500. Above 29C, the temps jump up dramatically with the Zalman. Below that temp, they both are fairly equal There are so many variables when it comes to cooling a computer. Most of them center around two things, ambient temperature and case airflow. In the case of the ambient temperature, even the stock coolers can do a good job if the room is cool enough. It's when the ambient temperatures get higher, that the situation changes. That's where the total surface area of the cooler becomes more important, which brings us right to case airflow.
Common wisdom says buy a decent case, put some decent fans in it and it should do a good job of cooling. Common wisdom is also wrong. We can control the airflow going through the case. What is more difficult is to cool the hot spots, like the area around the CPU/NB or the memory. That's why so many cases have a side air duct, to try and get more airflow to the CPU cooler. Unfortunately most side air ducts are in the wrong place, directly over the CPU cooler. It would work a lot better if it was a couple of inches more towards the front of the case. Then the air would be behind the CPU fan where it would supply cooler air to the CPU cooler's air intake! Channeling the airflow to hot spots is the difficult part. We can change the direction of the fans, and play around with the fan speeds. We can also add small fans for the chipset and memory, but that's about it. The worst part is that just switching to a different MB, even with all the same components can change everything. That 965P you had before ran cold as ice, but that P35 MB you replaced it with runs hotter. It's a never ending process. Change one component and it can change the airflow pattern inside your case. It's a never ending maddening process! LOL!!
I think it's funny when I read about someone complaining that their computer doesn't get cool enough in their Antec 900 case. That thing's got enough fans to fly, so why is it hot in there? The answer is simple! The air isn't getting to some areas inside the case, so heat builds up in those places which contributes to the overall temperatures inside the case.
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19. April 2008 @ 16:14 |
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The inside of my Antec 900 is super cool (even with 5 internal hard drives), must be because i don't have a hot graphics card in there, i only have a cheapy low performance card (with no fan) in there. Plus i keep all fans on slowest setting plus the Zalman CPU cooler is on slowest. Granted, summer is not yet here so it'll probably need the fans cranked up a bit in the summer for encoding duties.
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19. April 2008 @ 16:24 |
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There were certainly no heat issues in my 900, I undervolted the fans when they were set to low so they ran at 700rpm, (and the 200mm one to just 150rpm) and turned the CPU fan off entirely on my Zalman CNPS7000-Alcu (the really cheap one). CPU heatsink got kind of warm, that's about it.
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19. April 2008 @ 18:48 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Hey guys, this pretty much proves Anandtech is full of ABUZAR'S 1GB 8800GT. They have a Freezer 7 Pro cooling BETTER than a Thermalright 120 Extreme!
if that TRUE is w.o a fan, then im sure thats correct.
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19. April 2008 @ 19:15 |
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Ah good call shaff - I didn't spot that. You guys may want to edit your posts to remove the foul language. You've already been warned once.
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19. April 2008 @ 21:37 |
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better :D
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19. April 2008 @ 22:53 |
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Considering that they rank the Thermalright as being LOUDER than the Freezer 7 Pro, I think they did use it with a fan.
Also my name is Abuzar. That's why it says abuzar1, not azubar1.
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19. April 2008 @ 23:03 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Considering that they rank the Thermalright as being LOUDER than the Freezer 7 Pro, I think they did use it with a fan.
Also my name is Abuzar. That's why it says abuzar1, not azubar1.
okay then, what were the two coolers fan speeds? and what CMF did the fans push at those speeds?
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19. April 2008 @ 23:49 |
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20. April 2008 @ 00:41 |
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shaffaaf,
Would you care to share that Anandtech link. I would like to read those tests! I tried to find it on their site, but no luck finding it! Opps, you already supplied the link! LOL!!
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I read the article and can easily see how the AF-7 Pro can keep up with the 120 Ultra! First off those temps you posted were at stock idle speeds. Second, did you notice the room temps? 68-72 degrees F is downright chilly! It's 76 degrees in here right now and I'm getting goose bumps. Time to turn the heat on low! LOL!!
What the article also shows is that there is no way that the AF-7 Pro can keep up with the Thermalright when it comes to overclocking under heavy loads. Still when the ambient temp isn't that high, it shouldn't have any difficulty performing the way it does. It is after all, capable of dissipating 130w of heat. That's pretty good performance for the buck! Throw in some good case ventilation and it's a darn good cooler! Under PWM control, it's also very quiet. Even when encoding with DVDRB/CCE it doesn't get to 50C on my computer. Full load Orthos sees temps in the low 50s (52-54C), with an occasional flicker up to 56C! It works and it works well!
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20. April 2008 @ 08:44 |
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I wouldn't worry about it Abuzar, I've seen shaff make the same typo over and over again and was going to correct him anyway, but decided against it as I thought it was best left at your discretion.
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