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20. April 2008 @ 18:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
shaffaaf,
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the newer batches have mx-2

I see that in the specs you linked to. Thanks, I didn't know that! The best way to install it is to get some additional MX-2 and paint a thin coating on the CPU first. This assures that the MX-2 is bonded to both surfaces and cuts down on the chance of air bubbles.

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20. April 2008 @ 19:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Really? I thought applying to both surfaces was frowned upon... perhaps it's different with MX-2s. The number of systems you've built with Freezers though, you're the man to ask!



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so the MX-2 is better than AS5? where can i get some?
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sammorris,
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Really? I thought applying to both surfaces was frowned upon... perhaps it's different with MX-2s. The number of systems you've built with Freezers though, you're the man to ask!

I wish I still had the link, but it was a response from the manufacturer in one of the forums I came across, Newegg or another seller after I found that article on the MX-2. Part of the reason is that it's 100% non-conductive and some extra won't do any harm, but also Arctic discovered that if you coat both surfaces it makes sure that the MX-2 has surface contact all around. Air bubbles are less likely to cause problems too! I do the same thing with Ceramique! I just put it on the Sempron and the temps dropped 6C, and it still needs to cure. The 45 watt 4450E should run real cool in this thing!

I also discovered a temp I never heard of before (0 AM-2 experience), MCP which was 59C. I did a little research on the net and it's the NB temp. It has a low profile heat sink on it so I added a 50mm fan to it and the MCP temp dropped 21C. I tried a 40mm but it didn't do a very good job. More noise than airflow! The 50mm overhangs the heat sink at the bottom about .25", but it does work well. 38C is still a far cry from 59C! LOL!!

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20. April 2008 @ 21:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well the one I have had gray paste applied. I'm assuming that's MX-1?
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20. April 2008 @ 22:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well here we go again. i havent ran orthos in a while so i went to run it. didnt even make it a min, it failed??????? what the hell is going on?
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20. April 2008 @ 22:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Heyas need some help selecting a mobo/cpu/psu. Wife needs a new pc, primarily for playing World of Warcraft, converting video to play on her pmp.

Here's the case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156187

and I have one of these new on hand already for video:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150285

Want to get as much bang for the buck as possible, as I'd like to sneak in a lcd monitor as she still has a huge 19inch crt in her way.

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nighters,
First thing you need to do is drop that Power Supply in the trash and buy a real one! It's junk! What is your budget?

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20. April 2008 @ 23:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I'm flexible - she doesn't do much more than play WoW and convert some videos to watch while commuting to work so it doesn't need to be a powerhouse. My goals are primarily stability and hardware that will do the job. (I think the video care I have should handle WoW just fine lol) I want to keep the cost down as much as I can so i can surprise her with a LCD monitor, mostly cause she deserves it =D

She's currently using my very first build, which does the job but has some kinks I want to avoid, which are primarily with a mobo that required a whole bunch of drivers xp didn't like.
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21. April 2008 @ 00:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Well I am sure she is set on the case. Change it if you can though, I would get this instead.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119068


As for the CPU and motherboard, get an Intel E2160 and a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L and you can easily overclock to 3Ghz. Make sure you get a decent CPU cooler like a Freezer 7 pro.
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21. April 2008 @ 00:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
nighters we'll spend your money like it's going out of style. hehehe. :)

L@@K at this case, it's purty!! link to Sigma case...

Like theonejrs said the PSU in that Raidmax is NOT good at all. Maybe one of these would suffice and get you what you need. ;) link to psu's 501w-600w ++++++ link to psu's 401w-500w

Nothing written in stone with these psu's just ideas and some are really decent psu's with good deals too. lol.
Good luck to you...


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greensman,
Just so you know, drop that Thermaltake from the list. It's not half the PS that I've got. See that dinky little fan on the back? Well that's all there is! The 470 watt and the 500 watt are excellent. I doubt whether he will need anything bigger than the 470 watt one. Especially with an nVidia card! I know I've been very happy with mine!

500 Watt

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153028

470 Watt

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153027

Cases are such a subjective thing that I usually don't comment too much unless someone knows what they are looking for. It just becomes more of an opinion based on what someone else likes than what's best for the buck. Take me for instance, I like my CM Cavalier! Sam likes his NZXT, Morty likes his CM Stacker, and so on!

Best Regards,
Russ

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21. April 2008 @ 06:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
59C for a chipset is insane... I never even knew 50mm fans existed. Oh well, the more you learn!
nighters: While the case offends my eyes (hehe) it's only the PSU that HAS to be changed as its a heap of ****.
By the way theone, while I am a bit of an NZXT Fan, I do oft-recommend the Centurion 532 to people, especially after building a PC with one, I was quite impressed.



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21. April 2008 @ 06:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
cool cool - thanks for the assistance. here's what I have so far:

Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811226025

PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153027

Video:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150285

Mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059

CPU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116036

CPU Cooler:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186134

I did change cases from one pink to the other. I didn't care for the idea of trying to fit custom doors on optical drives anyways. The pink is a must though lol

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21. April 2008 @ 06:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Relatively sound parts list. I'm not sure how good that Thermaltake PSU is though. For what it's worth you may as well get one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003



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21. April 2008 @ 06:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ah thanks - missed the comment on the small fan
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21. April 2008 @ 08:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I like the Corsair psu better than the Thermaltake as well. ;)

Look at these cpu options
as well if your pocket book will allow it. More L2 cache and better speed too. All of these will reach 3.0GHz with little effort for even more speed but it's your money as they say. :D

good luck with the shopping...

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ah yeah I was thinking of bumping up the cpu a notch. thanks. I need a good getting started in overclocking site/guide, something I've been wanting to try but not sure where to start.

Any memory recommendations? I usually had straight for crucial, tried using newegg's guaranteed search but it failed to work for me.
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Originally posted by cincyrob:
well here we go again. i havent ran orthos in a while so i went to run it. didnt even make it a min, it failed??????? what the hell is going on?
Everything else O.K. Rob?

I flasehd my BIOS the other day to the F3b (beta), are you still running F2? OCCT crash as well?


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21. April 2008 @ 09:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok got orthos running lastnight seemed ok when i went to bed. i get up this morning and the system had shut down. i started it back up and it kinda rebooted a couple time. i went into the event veiwer for windows and it said application error a few times. i clicked on one and it had to do with a windows update.. i went to windows site and dl'd a fix for it and installed it and it seems ok right now but i dont know????
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i have F11 bios. the newest one. up from F9
OCCT i ran a bunch of time no problem but tried orthos that 1 time and failed, but then it seemd to work until it shut down and i got that application error

just ran OCCT. failed also. crashed/code 4
whats that how do i find out what the codes are?it only made it 1 min 4 sec

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greensman,
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I like the Corsair psu better than the Thermaltake as well. ;)

The thermaltake is the same design as the one I have without the PFC. The Thermaltake is Dual-Rail, which I prefer! I understand the arguments both ways! Both are excellent power supplies. I don't know about the Corsair, but the specs are wrong for the Thermaltake. It has more plugs, including the PCIe than Neweggs specs say! Both Thermaltakes are the newer design without the Lexan Plastic shield that covers about a third of the fan, and are very quiet and don't make a lot of heat. Either PSU would do the job well!

Best Regards,
Russ

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21. April 2008 @ 09:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The specs at newegg are probably right as lower rated PSUs come with fewer connectors even in the same series, and I believe a PSU has to be 500W or greater to come with two PCIe power connectors.



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i just dont get it.. im running OCCT now and it is doing fine? what the heck is going on? is it the PSU???? guess only time will tell. my new one should be here tomorrow
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