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harvrdguy
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11. February 2012 @ 20:52 |
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Originally posted by omega:
I was tempted to make the sig look more rude, but I opted out :p
Excuse me? MORE rude?
I was just about to say: "I would have liked to have seen that 10 minutes before ddp did"
But then this caught my eye:
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i liked that peeing sig. as long as no swearing or certain other stuff, i think it will be alright.
Well, let's not wait for a written invitation - Kevin, you're being given the "green light" buddy! - so let your creativity run wild - no swear words!
And furthermore:
Originally posted by ddp:
bummer
Well that settles it! Pretty much everybody - well maybe except for Sam - is quite disappointed that you have not brought back the twins!
(Besides, you really need to change the present sig anyway - I mean, is life like poker, or is life like craps?
Bad Boys! (Isn't that a Madonna song?) You're comin back. Here you come.
......... this is what we think of Sopa ......
Take it away Kevin !!!!!
lol, Rich
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11. February 2012 @ 20:53 |
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NPB!
LOL! You guys...
Hey, I'm open to more suggestions for extremely basic GPU games :)
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harvrdguy
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11. February 2012 @ 21:09 |
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basic games - ya mean like pac man?
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11. February 2012 @ 21:22 |
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Oh, come on now LOL! The 8600Gt can handle a great deal more than that. I simply mean nothing intensive. I guess I can find pre 2006 releases. It should handle those without AA.
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11. February 2012 @ 21:25 |
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anybody remember ex-member doggy_bot?
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11. February 2012 @ 21:43 |
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No. But I remember RawStyles LOL!!!
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11. February 2012 @ 23:10 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Well, it definitely helped my last computer case. The case wasn't equipped(not even a hole)with a fan before I modded it. I'm definitely gonna get into calculating pressure, movement, and position for air cooling now. Because I won't touch water for a while now. But I guess this board just became a candidate for future mineral oil cooling. More than anything for the wow factor ;) I'm sure I'd get some interesting looks from people LOL!
I was talking about the orientation of the cpu cooler, not the existence of a top vent. Top vents really help a lot imo; if I turn off my top fans the temps rise noticeably even on water (but again my case designed with them).
After what happened to your eco cooler (not the first time I've heard of this) I'll probably never use one of those self contained WC units. I'll stand by "traditional" WCing for rest of my life probably though.
Oh and audioserf is deceptively addicting, though sometimes I forget to play during particularly good parts of a song and completely wreck my score.
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11. February 2012 @ 23:45 |
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I got it to break 60C in audiosurf by applying 8X AA. Looks pretty trippy LOL!
Yah, as I've said, I have nothing against water cooling. It was simply either my luck, or lack of attention. Not so much the dust, but just plain checking up on things. I love my computer a lot, but I really don't treat it like I should. That's gotta change :) Mmm, the orientation of my Freezer pro was backward the first time I put it in. Stupid mistake. I forget how much it affected the temps, but it was worthy of note. I'll likely build an excellent water system down the road. I won't skimp on that badboy. And the GPU will be protected next time. Somehow...
I'll be darned! Left 4 dead runs beautifully. I'm a little nervous about the rapid high 60's though. I'm gonna try and mickey mouse a fan tomorrow. Then I can play. Yeah! :D
I'd sure like a temperature monitor for IN the game though. Should be easy to find though. Mmm, GPU-Z might be able to do it on the secondary monitor, as long as I tick Continue refreshing.
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12. February 2012 @ 05:46 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I don't know where they get their information, but this is an interesting comparison. Look at the power draw!!!
GTX 690 vs HD7970
Hmm, that can't be right. Another site says 270W.
It's fake, because the first Kepler card to arrive is GK104. GK110 will not follow until much later, let alone a dual card. The 700W power figure is also telling that it's fake :P
Originally posted by Rich:
You commute to work by train? That sounds so East Coast. (Actually sounds kind of cool to me but anything can become taken-for-granted if we let it.) I suppose a few people take the commuter Amtrak up from San Diego and points in between to Los Angeles every day - there's a station in San Juan Capistrano, where the swallows return, and a big one with lots of parking, in Irvine. I like trains.
So how long of a ride do you have Sam, and what type of work are you doing these days?
Depends on the route i take. Normally it's 37 minutes from the nearest station to home, into the central London terminus. Then it's about a 20 minute walk from the station. Throughout my day I sometimes find myself using the underground to visit our clients, and sometimes also utilise it as a 'short-cut' to save time on the journey home if the weather is bad. Since this comes at additional expense and I'm not yet paid full time, however, I try to minimise this. (My work-related travel is paid for by the company at least)
I'm currently working as an intern for a small IT company. We produce complete cloud-based solutions for the small/medium enterprise, providing them with a cloud-based desktop, application, file and database environment, so they can access not only their email, but also MS office, their databases and everything else, from any PC they like, even if it's at home, or also from an iphone, ipad or android smartphone. Start-menu, desktop icons, the lot. Aside from the advantages this brings, it also removes the responsibility of looking after expensive servers in their office, and also allows us to reduce the infrastructure maintenance cost of the workstations, by deploying thin-client technology.
Omega: The GTX570 is a much better design than the GTX560Ti, as it doesn't cut down from what makes the Fermi architecture of interest, i.e. high load resilience. Turn up the detail or AA and the effect on proper Fermi cards is less pronounced than average. On the 560Ti however, even with the 2GB version, the reverse is true, because the architecture of the GPU is totally different.
In many ways, the GTX570 and HD6970 are completely analagous at 1920x1200, both in this regard, raw performance (PR194 for the GTX570 versus PR195 for the HD6970), and roughly, power consumption as well. The Geforce only really loses out at higher resolutions where the HD6970 pushes 10% ahead, and the Radeon only really loses out in heavily nvidia-sponsored titles, such as PhysX games.
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Sopa won't pass. There isn't enough support for it for one, and honestly, It completely disregards our given freedoms. I removed my signature, because it could be distracting to forumers. I suppose that was the idea... But the image was rather loud. Sorta like a highly animated Gif. I know there are people here that dislike things like that in the forum. I believe Sam is one of them. And at this point, I believe most of the population is aware of SOPA.
SOPA will pass, but when it does, it won't be called SOPA. What will most likely happen is the government will receive an additional payoff from the MPAA/RIAA/IFPI and the bill will be re-worded and renamed, hidden from public and passed silently.
The irony is, SOPA isn't even the slightest bit necessary, as all the functions for what it's designed to do are already in place - see exhibit A: Megaupload.
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Right before switching to WCing I tested my last air cooler as both a top exhaust and a rear exhaust and found no noticeable difference. Granted I only tried each position once so there's a lot of factors unaccounted for, but unless there is some large difference between cases I doubt you'd see more than a couple C difference, if any.
It's a little bit more complicated than that. You're not really doing it for lower CPU temps, you're doing it so it has a minimal impact on the rest of the system. Your CPU may not be much cooler with top exhaust, but the system as a whole usually will be, at least if it follows a fairly standard pattern of heat output.
I played Audiosurf quite a lot, was good fun. I still occasionally pan back to it. Steam says I have 11 hours played but I suspect it's a bit more than that, maybe 20-30 total. As it happens, all those years ago when I had issues with quad crossfire due to (unknown at the time) chipset issues, Audiosurf was my testing game, as it would induce the crashes the quickest. Not something strenuous like left 4 dead or call of duty, it was audiosurf...
<shrugs>
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anybody remember ex-member doggy_bot?
The name sounds vaguely familiar...
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Cloud computing is interesting Sam but like all new techs the public is forcing it into an uneasy position. Cloud computing for businesses and schools is amazing as any PC in the network is exactly the same, no matter if you're working in the library or actually sitting in class. I have also used my school's cloud based storage often from home. All it takes is a name and password and I have access to all my assignments and learning materials. For that use alone I think it's an awesome technology. Now where the problem comes in is personal usage by the general public. Millions of people allowing a privately owned company to handle their personal data? Sounds like too much power is being consolidated in one place to me. Remember what happened last time millions of people trusted personal data to a private company?*cough*Sony*cough* No thank you, I intend to keep my files safe at home. Some argue that cloud computing offers better data protection, but only to the uninformed user who can't figure out a secondary hard drive...
Which reminds me I need to start making plans for a data backup system. Will probably be getting some more WD Greens for a Raid 1 array at some point. ATM HDD prices are atrocious. I picked up my WD1001FALS for $75 about a year or so ago, now it's currently on Newegg for $250. Lucky me :S
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12. February 2012 @ 12:16 |
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Imminent suspension pending on my account I suspect, so I'll be brief.
If you don't see me again, you can have a read through a few pages of the official PC building thread, that will explain why.
Otherwise, good chat guys, see you whenever.
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12. February 2012 @ 14:11 |
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Your statements didn't appear that out of line :p
I hot glued an AMD fan to the 8600GT. The results are quite impressive! At a mere inaudible 1800Rpms, the idle temps have dropped a whopping 9C :D And the load temps never exceeded 52C after 15 min of game play @ 3000Rpm(which is surprisingly quiet). Still obviously temporary. More fun than anything. Left 4 dead is not very intensive, and I still found it gobbling up video memory. Grand theft Auto IV is out :( I recall trying it once upon a time. No way no how at my resolution.
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12. February 2012 @ 15:03 |
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sam, doggy_bot was not in reference to you so not to worry. it was about omega's statement about not doing a rude sig got me to remember why i banned doggy_bot & it was not a sig but a pretty graphic picture involving 2 ladies.
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13. February 2012 @ 08:06 |
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Fortunately those open coolers lend themselves well to aftermarket fans like that.
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harvrdguy
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13. February 2012 @ 23:49 |
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Originally posted by sam:
Throughout my day I sometimes find myself using the underground to visit our clients, and sometimes also utilise it as a 'short-cut' to save time on the journey home if the weather is bad. Since this comes at additional expense and I'm not yet paid full time, however, I try to minimise this. (My work-related travel is paid for by the company at least)
That sounds like you're walking through a dark tunnel - the underground - but obviously you're referring to the subway since you talk about the expense of it.
If only we could get you limeys to talk right!
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Imminent suspension pending on my account I suspect, so I'll be brief.
If you don't see me again, you can have a read through a few pages of the official PC building thread, that will explain why.
Otherwise, good chat guys, see you whenever.
Well, EXCUSE me??? That was Shaffaaf right?
"No it clearly said sammorris."
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Well, Sam, unless you've blasphemed the Queen somewhere, it sounds like ddp has no surprises for you on this thread. But I have half a mind to visit the builder thread to check out the intrigue.
In the meantime, I'll see if I can get ddp to email me doggy_bot's graphic image of the two ladies .... err .... so I can make sure I never post anything similar, of course - what'd you think?
Rich
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ddp
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14. February 2012 @ 00:00 |
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no can do as post was hidden when i banned him & don't remember what forum tho i think it was news or all other topics.
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14. February 2012 @ 02:34 |
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Originally posted by harvrdguy:
Originally posted by sam:
Throughout my day I sometimes find myself using the underground to visit our clients, and sometimes also utilise it as a 'short-cut' to save time on the journey home if the weather is bad. Since this comes at additional expense and I'm not yet paid full time, however, I try to minimise this. (My work-related travel is paid for by the company at least)
That sounds like you're walking through a dark tunnel - the underground - but obviously you're referring to the subway since you talk about the expense of it.
If only we could get you limeys to talk right!
I realise this is a jest, but the term 'underground' is actually the name of the service, not just a term for what it is. Besides, subway is a bit ambiguous, as there are plenty of foot tunnels to cross large roads/junctions underneath that are called subways.
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15. February 2012 @ 13:32 |
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Around here, if you plan to go anywhere it's either drive or take all day to get there. I'm probably a couple hours walk from anything except the lake, and there are farm fields down the road lol. Working on my new car though, trying to get it in paint before summer, so I've been stranded :P
I live in a township of 7600 people just outside of a city of 18000. This is the boonies guys :P
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16. February 2012 @ 04:42 |
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The way the 8600Gt has been behaving, I almost worried that the GTX 570 would have an impact. My lag is gone, it smokes Left 4 Dead like it's nothing(highest), and windows 7 is smoother than ever! My CPU is cooler than it's ever been, thanks to the XIGMATEK Aegir SD128264 Mega Killer. Perhaps the coolit eco dying, was simply a sign to move on :D
Can't wait to test more. I plan to play some games really soon (Of course). And I believe it's time to bring on the blu ray encoding :D
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16. February 2012 @ 07:39 |
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Sometimes all it takes is a good lick of thermal paste... :p
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16. February 2012 @ 12:32 |
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ewwwwwww!!!!!!!
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16. February 2012 @ 12:45 |
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LOL ddp!
But you don't wanna overdo the Thermal paste either. I may have hit it just right with the mega killer. I wanted to avoid air pockets. Since the plate was far from flat on the mega killer, I added about twice as much as normal.
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Hmm sounds like a good candidate for lapping. Everything I currently have is lapped sans the wonderfully laser straight Cool It block.
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16. February 2012 @ 13:06 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
LOL ddp!
But you don't wanna overdo the Thermal paste either. I may have hit it just right with the mega killer. I wanted to avoid air pockets. Since the plate was far from flat on the mega killer, I added about twice as much as normal.
I was hinting at replacing it, not adding more than usual :p
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16. February 2012 @ 13:09 |
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Well, it seemed/seems to work well, so :p I probably should have lapped it honestly. I guarantee Jeff would feel the same way. I could darn near measure the gap.
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