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What do you think about the Revolution Controller
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madman_31
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30. March 2006 @ 18:30 |
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The Controller for the upcoming Nintendo console the "Revolution" don't you think this is really crap, I mean comeon Nintendo don't you think you should at least made it optional to use a different controller use like the one on the "GameCube".
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oofRome
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30. March 2006 @ 20:49 |
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I think the controller is a refreshingly rational approach to video games.
Some games could use a more "traditional" controller style, and Nintendo has pointed out possible "controller shells" for the console.
However, the new controller is the majority of the experience, and that's why Nintendo will push for utilization of the free-hand controller. If it just had a gamecube controller, than the system would be no more than a minimally upgraded Xbox with nothing to set it apart from the 360 or ps3.
Personally I'm very excited for the rev, but I'll have to play it before I can say for certain that Nintendo did the right thing.
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madman_31
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31. March 2006 @ 00:52 |
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Yea same here I will have to wait to see if it is any good or not.
But still were has all the buttions gone?
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madman_31
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3. June 2006 @ 05:00 |
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I've seen the controller in action and I still think the controller needs more buttons. I Also have a bad Feeling Nintendo are going to fail big time with there Nintendo Wii.
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Xian
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3. June 2006 @ 18:11 |
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I see the revolution controller as giving much more precision control than ever before possible with a console. I remember going from a cursor based control on a computer to using a mouse 20+ years ago and I see this as the same thing, a major step forward. Some genres just didn't translate well to the console style controllers. You didn't see many RTS games, and I always preferred a keyboard and mouse to a controller in fps games. With a pointer you now have precision control which opens up a whole new realm of possibilities that would have been very clunky to implement using dual analog sticks. As far as the number of buttons, it may have fewer but I don't see that as a real drawback. I have played many computer games that didn't use the keyboard with only 2 mouse buttons and a pointer and never needed anything else.
Actually, now that I look at it, the remote controller has 7 buttons - A & B, 1 & 2, Home, +, -. Attach the nunchuk controller and you get 2 more buttons and an analog stick giving you a total of 9 buttons. In contrast, the Gamecube controller has A, B, X, Y, Z, L and R, and Start and Select - 9 buttons also. Why do you think it has too few buttons?
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madman_31
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4. June 2006 @ 01:19 |
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No it really only has 4 buttons and with the nunchuk controller it could mean it has 6 but I think those two buttons will do the same as the "A" and "B" buttons on the Wii remote and Home, +, - buttons are not really buttons because the + and - would be for sound level higher and lower which the Wii controller has. Home could be used but I think it is only for DVD movies not for games. So in total it only has 6 buttons and the gamecube had 8 buttons.
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mark5hs
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4. June 2006 @ 05:42 |
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your an idiot. The main controler has A,B,a,b, Start, Select, and the arrows. The nunchuck has 2 buttons. Thats 8, 12 if you count the arrows. And you can use GCN controller, hence the 4 GCN ports on the side. And its called Wii, not revolution
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Xian
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4. June 2006 @ 07:14 |
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http://wii.nintendo.com/images/controller_feature_wht.png
I saw a picture of the nunchuk controller and the buttons on it were labeled Z and Y, so I don't think they are the same as the wiimote controller. I think there will be enough buttons to do what you need to play just about any game you want, given the extra capabilities of the controller. After all, I played from 1982 to 1991 with a single button Atari joystick on the Atari 800/ST and Amiga so the number of buttons doesn't really limit you if there are other functions such as a mouse or wii pointer that can be used instead. How many years did the Mac have a single button mouse? Or for that matter, until Windows 95 the right mouse button was rarely used in PC games and applications either.
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mudearies
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4. June 2006 @ 12:07 |
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overhyped gimmick.
the allmighty mudearies...
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oofRome
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4. June 2006 @ 15:02 |
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I immedietly replied because I didn't want to see what mudearies said, but I'm going to take a wild guess that it is something like
"gimmick... rip nintendo"
edit** wow I was pretty damn close. "overhyped gimmick". That mudearies sure is clever.
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dr.cool
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4. June 2006 @ 16:24 |
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it seems a little akward using the analog using the buttons and total motion control kind of like patting your tummy and rubbing your head. but at least u can turn it around and use it as an origional nintendo controller also alot of games might be like house of the dead u just aim and not move. ya know?
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fuxorated
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4. June 2006 @ 17:51 |
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this entire nintendo forum has turned into a nintendo bashing flame war. there should be an entirely fanboy forum
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oofRome
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4. June 2006 @ 18:31 |
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I enjoy the public forum, and don't really want to exclude anyone, no matter how fanboyish or trollish they are.
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mudearies
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4. June 2006 @ 19:28 |
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' ' I enjoy the public forum, and don't really want to exclude anyone, no matter how fanboyish or trollish they are. ' '
i feel the same way.
who is that guy always bringing up the xbox 360 in the pro ps3 forum ???
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oofRome
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4. June 2006 @ 19:41 |
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Rabbity.
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mudearies
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4. June 2006 @ 20:00 |
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' ' The Controller for the upcoming Nintendo console the "Revolution" don't you think this is really crap, I mean comeon Nintendo don't you think you should at least made it optional to use a different controller use like the one on the "GameCube". ' '
i do agree with you there like some people say the Blu-ray in the ps3 should have been optional i also think the gimmick in the wee-wee should have been optional theres still people who enjoy playing games in good old fashion normal pad.
although noone would wanna play the wee-wee since the graphics are so horrible.
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oofRome
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4. June 2006 @ 21:11 |
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although noone would wanna play the wee-wee since the graphics are so horrible.
I'm pretty sure it was a different story at e3 this year...
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madman_31
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4. June 2006 @ 23:55 |
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i do agree with you there like some people say the Blu-ray in the ps3 should have been optional i also think the gimmick in the wee-wee should have been optional theres still people who enjoy playing games in good old fashion normal pad.
although noone would wanna play the wee-wee since the graphics are so horrible.
Great at last someone agrees with me.
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Xian
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5. June 2006 @ 02:36 |
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I enjoy the public forum too. What I don't enjoy is the people that come here that do not contribute, but only to bash the competition. There are several I could point out in a few minutes of skimming this forum who never have anything positive to say about the Wii, but since I follow the other consoles too, when I go into the other forum they post nothing but praise for their choice. The old adage "If you can't say something nice, don't say it at all" comes to mind. I don't mind anyone that comes here that wants to contribute and even if it is to critique some aspects. It's the people that forum jump simply to bash one and advocate the other that I am tired of seeing.
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madman_31
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6. June 2006 @ 00:05 |
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I enjoy the public forum too. What I don't enjoy is the people that come here that do not contribute, but only to bash the competition. There are several I could point out in a few minutes of skimming this forum who never have anything positive to say about the Wii, but since I follow the other consoles too, when I go into the other forum they post nothing but praise for their choice. The old adage "If you can't say something nice, don't say it at all" comes to mind. I don't mind anyone that comes here that wants to contribute and even if it is to critique some aspects. It's the people that forum jump simply to bash one and advocate the other that I am tired of seeing.
Same here and I don't have anything against Wii I just would liked some more buttons thats all.
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mudearies
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6. June 2006 @ 12:28 |
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sorry kids but thats nothing special about the gimmick-mote.
the eyetoy is far superior and that came out way 1st.
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oofRome
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6. June 2006 @ 13:37 |
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The Eyetoy is nothing like the Wii mote. The Eyetoy isn't the first peripheral to detect motion, and it is not the first camera to appear in video games. Give it a rest.
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mudearies
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6. June 2006 @ 14:24 |
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the revo-mote is not the 8th wonder of the world either ,rather cheap crap technology like the touch screen in the ds.
eyetoy the 1st in video game history to incorporate motion censing.
eyetoy > revomote.
just my 2 centz.
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Xian
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6. June 2006 @ 14:49 |
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I have to disagree on the DS touchscreen. By having precision control that a pointer gives you, games like RTS that were very hard to implement are now possible, as seen by the recent Age Of Empires DS game. I remember a couple attempts at RTS games using the standard gamepad and they were very difficult to control without that precision. Warcraft II for the PS1 and Goblin Commander for the PS2 were two that I had tried and quickly gave up, frustrated at the difficulty of the controls. On WC2 I much preferred the PC version since you could have precise control with the mouse. Its a matter of something that you can instantly point to anyplace onscreen when using the DS stylus, PC mouse, or Wii Remote vs having to fumble around with 2 analog controllers.
For example, open a document in edit mode and try to navigate and highlight a particular word midways down the page using only the shift key and the cursor keys. Now try to highlight the same word using a mouse. It's much easier and faster with a mouse. That's the precision control that the DS stylus and Wii remote will give you.
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oofRome
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6. June 2006 @ 15:13 |
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the revo-mote is not the 8th wonder of the world either
Who said that?
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rather cheap crap technology
And what would you describe the technology contained in the ps3 controller as?
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eyetoy the 1st in video game history to incorporate motion censing.
No it isn't. Many peripherals that detect motion were made long before the eyetoy. Dataglove, Powerglove, Sidewinder controller to name a few. This isn't open to discussion, this is a fact.
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just my 2 centz.
It's more like your 14th cent, because I've disproved your eyetoy notion numerous times.
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