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1. May 2008 @ 20:07 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
I am an unashamed fan of NZXT it's true, but I'm certainly open to other brands too - I probably recommend more coolermaster cases to people than NZXTs...
Theone: The NZXT Case doors open left to right... tease tease.
i dont have one sam. but i seen a couple of them over at micro center the other day one was water cooled.. those are some pretty sweet cases if i say so myself. i like that red lighted one..lol they had it and the blue lighted on....very tempting
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1. May 2008 @ 20:33 |
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Mort, I just think Aluminium cases aren't manly enough for me. Honestly though, I am open to All cases(except for the Raidmax ones). Honestly, Aluminium doesn't appeal to me, but if they have steel versions of the case I would be interested. I actually like that NZXT case that Sam has, and I considered purchasing it but I didn't have enough money at the time.
Rob, I'm gonna give that new BIOS a try and see what happens.
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1. May 2008 @ 21:25 |
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sammorris,
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Theone: The NZXT Case doors open left to right... tease tease.
Yes, I looked at NZXT cases. One annoying thing is that why in the world do the make a door that opens right to left and than put the front usb, Firewire and sound card jacks on the right, rather than the left where you can see it and things will be much safer. I've repaired a ton of computers just for that reason. Somebody knocks into it (mostly little ones) and a jumpdrive, usb/firewire or headphone/mike is plugged in and usually breaks the socket or device plugged into it or worse, both! Mike and headphone jacks are the worst as the plug usually shears off flush!
I actually considered the Apollo, Trinity and the Hush. I just don't like the style of the Apollo's face. Nothing wrong, just a matter of personal taste! The Trinity with an intake fan will interfere with the airflow of the CPU cooler because of crossflow. At least with the FP-7 Pro. It may work very well as an exhaust though, as it would draw air sort of catty-corner across the case. At least they allowed for a static air vent on the other side of the case which should help cooling! The hush looks very nice but the airflow characteristics don't look very good at all! I've been doing the foam bit for years to help cut down noise. What I find works the besr is that foam they ship some motherboards on. The kind you can see through. Not quite as quiet as denser foam or acoustical foam, but it doesn't hold as much heat either so an extra dB or 2 won't bother me. What the less dense foam does do is pretty much eliminate whine type noises and stops them from bouncing off the metal case. The "Spooling up whine" of a lot of video card cooling fans is greatly reduced and no longer is annoying. Any high frequency pretty much goes away!
No case is perfect and the one I like, at least from a looks standpoint is the Cosmos steel case. It's just sooo... tall! LOL! Almost 25"! I'd have to stand up just to get at my optical drives! If they ever make a mid-tower in that design, I'm buying! I'll even live with the almost full length door! I'm not crazy about the usb's and such being on the top, at least not with the dust situation here, but again I could live with that if it was just shorter!
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Russ
Best Regards,
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1. May 2008 @ 21:32 |
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm???? ok i think i understand now.
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1. May 2008 @ 21:46 |
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Russ,
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The Mystique has a full length contraption of a door that's the full height of the case, and while I don't know for sure, it looks to be a bit fragile and easy to break. I don't want to have to re-arrange my desktop, so I won't buy one.
I really like the gull wing doors on my all aluminum mystique. they are not the least bit fragile. I don't like cases with doors on the front covering the drive bays. the gull wing doors open completely out of the way. they're one of the best features on the case and the all aluminum mystique is what I recommend to those that want a mid tower case. I wish they were on my stacker.
there are actually several features I like better on my mystique than I do my stacker. front drive bay door, the hdd mounting is tool-less and I think the tool-less optical drive design is a little better.
abuzar,
quality all aluminum cases are just as sturdy as steel cases and sturdier than some. they are made of an aluminum alloy and a little thicker gauge. I've built some pc's for friends using inexpensive steel cases and they were so flimsy you could dent a panel merely by pushing in on them. I would bet you could dent or bend a panel on your TT armor more easily than you can on my CM mystique or stacker.
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1. May 2008 @ 22:13 |
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Mort, have you ever used a TT Armor? Granted I have never used your case either but I just tested it out and it's not exactly easy to bend any of the metal parts.
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1. May 2008 @ 22:26 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Mort, have you ever used a TT Armor? Granted I have never used your case either but I just tested it out and it's not exactly easy to bend any of the metal parts.
no but I have owned and been around several antec cases. I'm not badmouthing your case. the point I am trying to make is that the aluminum alloy used on quality all aluminum cases is just as sturdy as steel cases and sturdier than cheapo steel cases. you get what you pay for. you can get flimsey in both aluminum and steel I'm sure but I can assure you both my CM cases are every bit as sturdy and solid as any of the antec cases I have been around.
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1. May 2008 @ 22:35 |
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I guess I will just have to try one out then.
BTW, my most favorite case would be the Antec 900. I don't really care that everyone and their brother has one, it's still has LOTS of fans lol.
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1. May 2008 @ 22:47 |
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Morty the Mistique is a nice case. They had one at CompUSA before they went out of business and the doors are actually pretty sturdy. I was surprised at the entire case really. ;)
I'm looking at some different cases but I think I'll just do a RMA refund. I don't NEED another case I just couldn't pass up that case for such a small investment. NOW I can tho... lol.
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Been looking around and found this. NOT getting it but it seems like a pretty good case for the money. ;) link to Ultra Black Aluminus
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2. May 2008 @ 02:26 |
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Mort81,
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I really like the gull wing doors on my all aluminum mystique. they are not the least bit fragile. I don't like cases with doors on the front covering the drive bays.
You need something like that here to keep the dust and dirt out. Mine opens about 150 degrees, so It's not in the way and it's only 2/3 the height of the whole case. The right where my right front speaker sits with my coffee cup right next to it! LOL!! The edges are a beveled fit, so dust is no longer a problem. Without a drive bay door my drives quickly grow hair and a beard! LOL!! You can seal them up, but what a pain!
Are the doors geared or something on the Mystique? How do they catch? Someone told me that they opened by pressing in on them and a spring opens them??
Best Regard,
Russ
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2. May 2008 @ 03:17 |
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they are geared. no button on top to push. not spring loaded. open one side and the other side opens too (gear mechanism on top and bottom). vice versa when closing. either door will close/ open both.
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2. May 2008 @ 05:05 |
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2. May 2008 @ 05:20 |
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sammorris,
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We all know what they're ripping off, but nonetheless it's an interesting looking case, and reasonably priced as well by the looks of things.
I think they are following a trend rather than ripping off! LOL!!If it only had a drive bay door! (he sighs!)....
Russ
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2. May 2008 @ 05:22 |
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Well indeedy. Trouble is, I don't really like most case doors, I just particularly like the styling for my cases so that wasn't a problem, but a lot of cases have awful looking things on the front of them...
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2. May 2008 @ 05:33 |
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sammorris,
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Well indeedy. Trouble is, I don't really like most case doors, I just particularly like the styling for my cases so that wasn't a problem, but a lot of cases have awful looking things on the front of them...
A drive door here is a must! Unless you want to seal allthe drives, and that's a pain. They stay absolutely clean with the door on my MC Cavalier, thanks to the closure design. The door overlapse the faceplate. I just have to take a paintbrush and clean the groove! That's it!
Russ
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2. May 2008 @ 05:51 |
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wow, the dust problems really are bad there...
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2. May 2008 @ 06:24 |
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sammorris,
It's like fine silt! When it does blow around in some parts of the County it feels like you are in the Serengeti! We joke about it all the time! We have to vacuum the walls! Weekly! The drapes have to be washed once a month at the least. I wasn't kidding when I mentioned the shovel! 6 months and you would have to us either a shovel or a large industrial Vacuum Cleaner! LOL!! If you don't sweep the stoop every couple of days you risk slipping on it. It's like tiny ball bearings!
Edit Did you resolve that DMI issue on the boot up? I asked once but didn't get an answer! I just wondered if it went away with removing the jump drive?
Russ
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2. May 2008 @ 07:09 |
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I'll be honest with you Russ, it hasn't bothered me sufficiently to try removing it yet! When I do I'll get back to you...
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2. May 2008 @ 07:12 |
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sammorris,
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I'll be honest with you Russ, it hasn't bothered me sufficiently to try removing it yet! When I do I'll get back to you...
I think that's funny! I'm more interested in it than you are! ROFLMAO!!
Russ
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2. May 2008 @ 07:44 |
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Pretty much...
I'll need to remove my USB stick when I go to the LAN tomorrow, so I'll see how snappy it boots up without it plugged in.
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2. May 2008 @ 08:00 |
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sammorris,
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Pretty much...
I'll need to remove my USB stick when I go to the LAN tomorrow, so I'll see how snappy it boots up without it plugged in.
Hey, go have some fun! I know what I wanted to ask you! With the temps you were talking about before, what kind of temps can you feel with your hand. The reason I ask is 70C should get your attention pretty quick by touch! Hell, that's right around 160F. I sure wouldn't want to jump into a tub with that hot a water temperature! It would get your attention for sure! Damn uncomfortable too! LOL!!
Russ
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2. May 2008 @ 08:14 |
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That's the thing - it's the coretemps that are in the 70s. The CPU temp is only 42C, and rightfully so the heatsink is pleasantly warm to the touch, far from hot at all. Bear in mind of course that coretemp is reading a full 15 degrees higher than speedfan.
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2. May 2008 @ 08:59 |
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sammorris,
I know you have a great cooler but no cooler in the world short of a chilled water system of some kind could get the CPU temps down to 42C! on air you would need a cooler much bigger than what you have now. LOL!! I don't like CorTemp to begin with as it has some issues with some hardware. I know it wouldn't run on my 965P with the E4300 in it. Click on coreTemp and the computer resets! It doesn't crash, and the settings don't go back to default. It's like running it "is" the reset button. I suspect the software is making calls to hardware that doesn't exist, and whatever exists at that address is re-setting the computer. I think given that you don't feel any extreme heat with your hand, that the program just isn't ready for the Newer chipset yet! I have the Everest Ultimate Engineer Edition 4.50 and the temps match spot on what's shown in the PC Health section of the BIOS with mine. I just don't believe those temps possible! The CPU temp would have to be a lot higher and the heat coming out of the computer could cook hotdogs! LOL!! I'll bet you money right now that your exhaust isn't that hot, and I'll bet you can put your wrist right on the top of the heat pipe tops, and it won't be uncomfortably hot!
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Russ
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2. May 2008 @ 10:01 |
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Why wouldn't it? 42C with an ambient temp is fine. At full speed my Freezer 7 Pro managed a reasonable 47...
It's funny you should mention the instantaneous reboots, as I had those with the first revision of the program. It's also worth noting that the same will happen if you run Speedfan on any DFI board...
For the record, Everest reports the same CPU temp Speedfan does.
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2. May 2008 @ 11:33 |
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Looking in the OC thread, Marsey99 posted this link to RealTemp and I need to test it but I'm at "work" right now.
Thanks to Marsey99 for the link and possibly a more accurate way to "monitor" core temperatures!!
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