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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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10. October 2009 @ 12:28 |
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128Mb runs fine on XP. That is if you have as much patience as I have ;P
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10. October 2009 @ 15:07 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Yep the RAM requirements you outlined are about right Sam. Also mind that the 32-bit versions use a lot less RAM as well.
Estuansis,
I had a very nice, higher end Acer laptop a while back, which I sold to a member here at AD, that had Vista Home Premium on it. It came with 2x512 of memory. It's performance suffered so badly from the lack of Ram that I bought 2x1024 to replace the original memory. I just couldn't in good conscience, sell it to someone with it running that slow. The extra GB of Ram made all the difference in the world, performance wise!
Russ
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Red_Maw
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10. October 2009 @ 19:33 |
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It's time to clean the arctic freezer 7 pro and I'm wondering if I need to reapply the thermal paste before putting it back on? The cooler hasn't been removed since it was first put on 2.5 years ago and although most people say the paste doesn't have to be reapplied every time the cooler is taken on/off but it's age bothers me.
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10. October 2009 @ 19:59 |
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If it's the MX-2 one, you should be fine.
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10. October 2009 @ 20:02 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
It's time to clean the arctic freezer 7 pro and I'm wondering if I need to reapply the thermal paste before putting it back on? The cooler hasn't been removed since it was first put on 2.5 years ago and although most people say the paste doesn't have to be reapplied every time the cooler is taken on/off but it's age bothers me.
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Red_Maw,
As a general rule of thumb, it's always best to re-apply new thermal compound. It's not worth having to do it again if you don't have to!
BTW, a good way to clean the cooler is in warm soapy dishwater. That's how I do mine! Be sure to clean off the old compound with Alcohol first!
Best Regards,
Russ
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Red_Maw
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10. October 2009 @ 21:29 |
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Thanks sam and Russ. Think I'll use the my current stuff for now and see how it goes since I'm out of TIM right now. Probably will re-apply when I do my next build (hopefully this summer).
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14. October 2009 @ 13:38 |
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I had an interesting experience about 4 AM this morning. My XP-Pro would not shut down! I tried it a number of times and it would not do anything. If you tried to open anything but the start menu, it would tell you the computer can't do it because it was shutting down???. If you tried to open a program, it gave an error message saying the same thing! Anyone ever heard of that one? I was figuring that this AM it probably wasn't going to fire up when I turned it on, but it seems to be running fine! I can't find any Trojans, Malware or viruses, so I'm stumped. The computer seems to be running fine???
Puzzled,
Russ
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14. October 2009 @ 13:49 |
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Do you have auto updates turned off? My windows 7 updater is on. In fact It woke me up extremely early to the welcome screen. Once logged on it told me it applied new updates. Guess I'll have to start turning the stereo volume down before bed! ;)
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14. October 2009 @ 13:51 |
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Stuff like that has always happened in XP, don't worry about it Russ. It's either something that's just got 'stuck' or (if you use Windows Updates, i never have, never will) it could just be a required shutdown that's got a bit stuck.
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14. October 2009 @ 14:33 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
Stuff like that has always happened in XP, don't worry about it Russ. It's either something that's just got 'stuck' or (if you use Windows Updates, i never have, never will) it could just be a required shutdown that's got a bit stuck.
Thanks Creaky and Oman7!
It's just so strange that I've been using XP-Pro since it came out and this is the first time it wouldn't shut down! I do use Automatic Updates, but it doesn't download anything unless I let it. I've found that leaving them turned off can cause more problems than the way I do it! M$ nackers some of my M$ software if I don't do certain upgrades. It says it has disabled things for my own protection!
Thanks again guys,
Russ
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sytyguy
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14. October 2009 @ 14:36 |
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Russ,
Did you check with Task Manager to see what was running at that specific time?
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14. October 2009 @ 15:29 |
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When ever I experience an extreme bottle necking, or lockup, thats always the first thing I do...Gotta love that task manager. Everything runs through the process tree :)
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14. October 2009 @ 15:41 |
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Hey sytyguy,
It wouldn't let me do anything. It would just pop up a message telling me that it couldn't run because the computer was shutting down. It worked fine when I turned it back on this morning.
Thanks for the input,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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sytyguy
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14. October 2009 @ 15:52 |
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Did you attempt the "3-finger-salute"?
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14. October 2009 @ 17:03 |
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Originally posted by sytyguy:
Did you attempt the "3-finger-salute"?
As far as I know Ctrl, Alt, Delete is the only way I know of to get to the task Manager. If there's another way, I'm not aware of it! It just said that it was not able to open the Task Manager because Windows was shutting down!
Best Regards,
Russ
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14. October 2009 @ 17:14 |
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Actually, (Ctrl + Shift + Esc) also works :P And in fact, its the less irritating way in windows 7...
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14. October 2009 @ 17:15 |
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Sometimes you just have to resort to the Reset button. Most OSes are resilient to recover anyway.
For many years i've used corporate machine (i still do, 2 of my main machines are Dell's) which obviously don't have reset buttons so sometimes you just have to turn them off. Again, most OSes are resilient enough to cope.
At least in linux you can generally do Ctrl-Alt-<and one of a few different function keys> to escape to the command line ie to get 'underneath' the Windowing system and find out the process id of 'X' ie the Windowing system and manually kill it and it will usually startup again by itself and has usually cleared whatever the errant problem was.
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14. October 2009 @ 18:54 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
As far as I know Ctrl, Alt, Delete is the only way I know of to get to the task Manager. If there's another way, I'm not aware of it! It just said that it was not able to open the Task Manager because Windows was shutting down!
Best Regards,
Russ
If you right-click on an empty space on the task bar you can then select Task Manager. But, if you can't select it from the task bar, then yes, Ctrl, Alt, Delete (3-finger-salute) is the way to go. Strange that didn't work.
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14. October 2009 @ 19:00 |
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Originally posted by sytyguy:
Originally posted by theonejrs:
As far as I know Ctrl, Alt, Delete is the only way I know of to get to the task Manager. If there's another way, I'm not aware of it! It just said that it was not able to open the Task Manager because Windows was shutting down!
Best Regards,
Russ
If you right-click on an empty space on the task bar you can then select Task Manager. But, if you can't select it from the task bar, then yes, Ctrl, Alt, Delete (3-finger-salute) is the way to go. Strange that didn't work.
sytyguy,
You are absolutely right. It's the first time I wasn't able to get in the taskbar except when I was locked out of a few customer's computers! And that was a virus that used your own password to keep you out. Then the only thing visible on the screen was a blue background and the mouse pointer. You could move the mouse, but the buttons didn't work. Neither did the keyboard!
Best Regards,
Russ
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14. October 2009 @ 19:10 |
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I've had that happen before. Total lockup. I believe a virus caused it though...
Forgot about the Taskbar right click LOL! On windows 7, I definitely find Ctrl + Shift + Esc the best route. Too many options the other route LOL! When I want task manager, thats what I want ;)
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14. October 2009 @ 19:24 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I've had that happen before. Total lockup. I believe a virus caused it though...
Forgot about the Taskbar right click LOL! On windows 7, I definitely find Ctrl + Shift + Esc the best route. Too many options the other route LOL! When I want task manager, thats what I want ;)
Thanks Oman7, I will remember that! Sometimes the taskbar is the difference between being infected and no problem! Especially with this crap that wants to scan your computer for free, and put malware or viruses in and then charge you $59 to remove them, which doesn't work either! LOL!! Guardian AV is the most Infamous!
Best Regards,
Russ
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15. October 2009 @ 06:02 |
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Ctrl+Alt+Esc an SP3 feature?
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15. October 2009 @ 06:05 |
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Can't say i ever recall using Ctrl-Shift-Esc, works here on SP2 though
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15. October 2009 @ 06:30 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
Can't say i ever recall using Ctrl-Shift-Esc, works here on SP2 though
Creaky,
Same here with SP-2!
Russ
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15. October 2009 @ 06:38 |
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Knowing me though, i've probably been using that combo for years without being aware of it as it's one of those things you do on auto-pilot, like changing gears in the car etc :)
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