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The Official PC building thread -3rd Edition
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6. October 2009 @ 18:01 |
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VGA is like looking at text through a wrong pair of glasses, it's horrible. Get DVI, pronto!
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6. October 2009 @ 18:04 |
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LOL! Definitely!!!
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6. October 2009 @ 18:40 |
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Razor sharp with the edits there :)
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6. October 2009 @ 18:46 |
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Hey hey! I was merely expressing myself. :P Was that you ddp?
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6. October 2009 @ 18:51 |
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I run my Acer X223wbd Black through a DVI connection and the image is pretty sharp. I will admit that the 24" 1920 x 1200 Dell 2407WFP has a way cleaner image though. Especially in games there are fewer jaggies on the 24" screen because it has a much better pixel pitch. But I have never had any real problems with the 223wbd image quality-wise. I'm dual screening as I speak with the Acer hooked up through my KVM switch and the image is still pretty damn sharp. I can use it for hours and hours problem free. Though I will admit it's a might nicer than other 22" displays I've used. Really quite funny because I picked it up for $160 maybe 9-10 months ago now.
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6. October 2009 @ 18:59 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
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There's just a bit too much real estate that doesn't light up
is what you said. There's nothing in the 22" that doesn't light up, as it is all covered by a larger backlight to cover the extra size.
22" 1680x1050 monitors do not give a soft focus. They provide a less accurate, more pixelated image. This would only appear as soft focus to those with weak vision (in which case, most things would appear as soft focus).
Sam,
The space between the Pixels doesn't, which is what causes the pixelation you mentioned above. It gets lighter to maybe a medium gray, but you can clearly see it on a 22" with the naked eye. It takes my 7 power Opti-Visor for me to see that on my monitor!
Perhaps soft focus was the wrong terminology, as I have no problem with my eyes. I've only worn glasses for about 7 years, and I still don't need them all the time. I was watching "The Bucket List" the other night and something out of the corner of my eye, caught my attention. I went back a little and watched carefully and the thing that attracted my attention was a tiny speck of dust falling off of a lampshade, not even in the scene. I see just fine! I've always equated lack of sharpness to softness. Being an old photographer does that to you. Especially when most of your work is in B&W. Color timing is everything to making a picture say what you want it to say, even more so, in B&W! I just don't quite know the right words to explain the difference. Washed out would be far too strong, because for the most part the picture looks good.
Adam and I have just gotten done comparing TBL on both monitors, and while he can see the difference, he can't put his finger on exactly what that difference is! His explanation is that one gives you what it gives you, which is very good, and the other gives you what you want! From that I'll guess that enough factors are better in the Sceptre's screen, that it's a little bit of everything! It gives you a more complete picture, lacking in nothing!
In the opening scene of "The Bucket List", there's a guy climbing the Himalayas, and the view is just beautifully majestic on adam's screen. On mine, you can smell the snow and feel the cold! It's like choosing one single thing to put your finger on but you couldn't choose one over another as the difference. My deduction is, that the difference is more than likely caused by the above mentioned pixelation! Makes perfect sense to me!
Russ
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6. October 2009 @ 19:17 |
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Omega: No, 16:10 is widescreen standard for PCs, 16:9 is widescreen standard for TVs. 16:9 is of course more popular by volume, but for PCs, 16:10 has become the accepted standard.
Overall pixelation has a severe impact on the 'niceness' of a picture you're looking at, but it's not the end of the world...
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6. October 2009 @ 19:58 |
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As just a backup monitor my Acer goes above and beyond. I could just as easily use it as a primary monitor and not mind it at all. It fulfills it's intended purpose with gusto. I do love the sheer crispness and clarity of my Dell though. It's certainly big enough too and isn't really dwarfed by my Dell like my old 17" Sceptre(RIP).
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6. October 2009 @ 22:01 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Omega: No, 16:10 is widescreen standard for PCs, 16:9 is widescreen standard for TVs. 16:9 is of course more popular by volume, but for PCs, 16:10 has become the accepted standard.
Overall pixelation has a severe impact on the 'niceness' of a picture you're looking at, but it's not the end of the world...
Sam,
Truthfully seeing the Acer and my Sceptre running side by side, it's reasonably close. There's just a small amount of difference, but clearly the 20" looks the better of the two. It has just a bit more of everything! It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure that the same resolution on a 2" larger screen, won't look as good as it does on the smaller screen!
Russ
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6. October 2009 @ 22:26 |
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7. October 2009 @ 00:32 |
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Well then, Perhaps it was creaky LOL! Has to have been a moderator...
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7. October 2009 @ 08:44 |
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Omega: It always is, it's taken you this long to notice? :P
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It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure that the same resolution on a 2" larger screen, won't look as good as it does on the smaller screen!
It doesn't but really, it's not that bad! Most of the people I know would choose an extra 2" over a slighly more accurate picture. Assuming, of course you use DVI. Using VGA can make it a bit nasty.
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7. October 2009 @ 13:01 |
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omega, can also be admin or staff tho staff not supposed to do that after what happened between dvdback & myself.
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7. October 2009 @ 13:39 |
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Im gonna lean toward Creaky LOL! It was a minor indiscretion. I doubt that the admin or staff would go out of their way eh. ;)
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7. October 2009 @ 13:52 |
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That's one of life's great mysteries :).
Today i found a use for a poor, pathetic & undernourished machine. Dell Celeron (500MHz CPU) laptop with a massive 800x600 maximum resolution, 256MB of RAM and a 4GB hard drive. It has a proper docking unit with everything built-in, best of all this provides 1024x768 out to a monitor. So it goes from an utterly pointless paperweight to a proper desktop that lives in the docking unit, perfect for Solaris 9 (couldn't be bothered to install Solaris 10, it's not like there's any Solaris jobs out there anymore). Just had to add an old PS2 mouse and keyboard.
Just need to find all my old scripts and see if i can remember how everything hangs together. This is just in case an interview ever pops up again.
Also brought the Dell GX150 tower back into service, P3 1GHz, 384MB of RAM, a 20GB hdd and two optical drives, a dvd-rom and a dvd burner. TinyMe Test Release 7 was already on there from whenever i last used the machine, this is just a cheap and cheerful (and silent) surfing machine.The idea is that when i'm surfing during the day i just use one one or two of these olde worlde machines instead of the C2D's or the Quad. I was already using two old laptops for this, a P4 2GHZ and a P3 600 so now have 4 machines suited for just surfing, it always feels wasteful using the modern machines for just surfing.
Well that's my contribution to 'PC building' :)
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7. October 2009 @ 15:12 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Omega: It always is, it's taken you this long to notice? :P
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It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to figure that the same resolution on a 2" larger screen, won't look as good as it does on the smaller screen!
It doesn't but really, it's not that bad! Most of the people I know would choose an extra 2" over a slighly more accurate picture. Assuming, of course you use DVI. Using VGA can make it a bit nasty.
Sam,
I'm no rocket scientist either, and the realization of what was causing the difference in picture quality wasn't evident until I had both monitors running side by side! LOL!! You are right though, it's not that bad. The truth is, it took a really fine quality 720P movie to show the difference. This is also my first experience with the MKV format. I've never seen anything like it before. This is all it says with the movie file, 720P.BluRay.X264-ESiR 4.36GB. I'll send you a PM on it!
Best Regards,
Russ
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7. October 2009 @ 20:31 |
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An MKV I think is a Matroska file and it's a wrapper for Ogg Vorbis video and AC3 audio. I have a lot of 720p MKVs. Pretty good quality for the file size.
What are you using to play it? Currently moved to Media Player Classic with the K-Lite media pack. Superior GPU acceleration and video quality over VLC. I have a few fantastic quality 1080p movies and they really look grainy on VLC and the color is a bit wonked. Open in MPC and everything is razor sharp.
Playing a good quality 720p side by side you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between my two monitors. But 1080p is no contest. They look great on the 22" but the 24" is almost lifelike. Super sharp lines and stunning color quality.
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7. October 2009 @ 20:39 |
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Well most I've seen are ogg vorbis video with ac3 audio. That's the majority of my collection. Slightly less often I get ones with H.264 video. Never had one with ogg vorbis audio though.
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7. October 2009 @ 21:50 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
An MKV I think is a Matroska file and it's a wrapper for Ogg Vorbis video and AC3 audio. I have a lot of 720p MKVs. Pretty good quality for the file size.
What are you using to play it? Currently moved to Media Player Classic with the K-Lite media pack. Superior GPU acceleration and video quality over VLC. I have a few fantastic quality 1080p movies and they really look grainy on VLC and the color is a bit wonked. Open in MPC and everything is razor sharp.
Playing a good quality 720p side by side you would be hard pressed to tell the difference between my two monitors. But 1080p is no contest. They look great on the 22" but the 20" is almost lifelike. Super sharp lines and stunning color quality.
Estuansis,
What you describe above is exactly the difference between watching it on my friends 22" Acer and my 20" Sceptre. They look great on the 22" but the 20" is almost lifelike. Super sharp lines and stunning color quality! I couldn't have described it better, so I borrowed your words!
I don't much care for VLC player myself, and I don't like Windows Media Player classic either. Gom player has better color quality than either of them, but you do have to switch on the AC3 manually in the preferences. It's so easy to use though!
Best Regards,
Russ
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8. October 2009 @ 00:03 |
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I'm fairly partial to VLC or MPC, but I've never tried Gom player. So I will give it a shot :) I'm always into trying new softwares. Especially if im on the eve of a reformat :P
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8. October 2009 @ 00:26 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
I'm fairly partial to VLC or MPC, but I've never tried Gom player. So I will give it a shot :) I'm always into trying new softwares. Especially if im on the eve of a reformat :P
Oman7,
What I particularly like is if it needs a codec, it takes you to Gom Players site, and more often than not installs the proper codec. It will play darn near anything! It also has full and comprehensive controls. You can adjust, just about anything to do with the Audio or video. None of that "Buy the Deluxe Version" crap like from real player, to get the adjustments!
http://download.cnet.com/GOM-Media-Playe...j=dl&tag=button
Here's the download page!
Russ
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8. October 2009 @ 03:22 |
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I like VLC but prefer MPC, which i havevia the K-Lite Mega Codec Pack. No need to go anywhere, for any codecs. Never tried Gomplayer.
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8. October 2009 @ 04:33 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
I like VLC but prefer MPC, which i havevia the K-Lite Mega Codec Pack. No need to go anywhere, for any codecs. Never tried Gomplayer.
creaky,
I agree that MPC is better than VLC, but Gom Player is better than both of them. When it comes to color, it's the difference between, say a Blue dress and a Blue dress that shows all the hues and textures of the fabric as well as the colors. It has superior controls for both Audio and Video. The only shortcoming I see with it, is the inability to play a movie from the last scene shown. That's really more of a minor annoyance, than a problem! Give it a try! I think you will like it!
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8. October 2009 @ 07:00 |
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Jeff: By contrast, As far as I know of the 150+ MKVs I have, none have had ogg vorbis video. I've never even seen ogg vorbis video.
Anyway, more on topic, I use Media Player classic as well, but with the CoreAVC codec, that really does make HD playback child's play.
I don't care much for VLC either Russ, hence Media Player classic (not windows media player classic - there's a difference)being my player of choice)
I've not tried Gom player but having compared the colour accuracy of MPC to a real Bluray, I'm verysceptical that the colour difference in it is accurate.
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