Originally posted by sunnysmat:

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Originally posted by David891:

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@ sunnysmat
You might have the same problem as I have, after I soldered 2 wires to the motor, I connected a battery pack to do a manual switch, so I could play ps2 backups.
After a while, I dont know what axcatly happened, but my eject button didnt work anymore either (the post are somewhere in the middle of this topic, some other users had the same problem)
At that time we thought it was caused bij sending power into the drive, that broke some kind of fuse. Nobody knew how to fix it, so I built my whole Swap Swintch mod into my ps3, so I can now eject all the discs with that.

2 things you can do:
1) Find out how to repair it, I have no idea how, but i'd love to know how to fix this problem too (lot more work to pull discs in and out with my swap switch switch)
2) built in the swap switch that we have, this way you can still use your ps3, but its a little more work swapping discs and you will have to solder some into your ps3 and cut some holes in it (to built in the switch)

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thanks david891.....
i would too like to build the swap switch...
bt in the swap switch tut. i saw that u took the power from the bluray disc drive connectors on the motherboard... bt since the problem seems to b wid motherboard so i cant any more draw any pwer from the board since it reads only 2.5 volts insted of the normal 12 volts....
is there any other way around????

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Originally posted by David891:

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Originally posted by sunnysmat:

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Originally posted by David891:

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@ sunnysmat
You might have the same problem as I have, after I soldered 2 wires to the motor, I connected a battery pack to do a manual switch, so I could play ps2 backups.
After a while, I dont know what axcatly happened, but my eject button didnt work anymore either (the post are somewhere in the middle of this topic, some other users had the same problem)
At that time we thought it was caused bij sending power into the drive, that broke some kind of fuse. Nobody knew how to fix it, so I built my whole Swap Swintch mod into my ps3, so I can now eject all the discs with that.

2 things you can do:
1) Find out how to repair it, I have no idea how, but i'd love to know how to fix this problem too (lot more work to pull discs in and out with my swap switch switch)
2) built in the swap switch that we have, this way you can still use your ps3, but its a little more work swapping discs and you will have to solder some into your ps3 and cut some holes in it (to built in the switch)

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thanks david891.....
i would too like to build the swap switch...
bt in the swap switch tut. i saw that u took the power from the bluray disc drive connectors on the motherboard... bt since the problem seems to b wid motherboard so i cant any more draw any pwer from the board since it reads only 2.5 volts insted of the normal 12 volts....
is there any other way around????

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I took the power from the card reader, wich is about 4 or 4,5 volts.
i think 2,5 volts should be enough for the motor since the original power from the motor is only 3 volts I thought.

Someone posted pictures of how to use power of the cardreader, but those pictures are removed, and I cant remember where it had to be connected.

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Originally posted by sunnysmat:

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Originally posted by David891:

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Originally posted by sunnysmat:

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Originally posted by David891:

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@ sunnysmat
You might have the same problem as I have, after I soldered 2 wires to the motor, I connected a battery pack to do a manual switch, so I could play ps2 backups.
After a while, I dont know what axcatly happened, but my eject button didnt work anymore either (the post are somewhere in the middle of this topic, some other users had the same problem)
At that time we thought it was caused bij sending power into the drive, that broke some kind of fuse. Nobody knew how to fix it, so I built my whole Swap Swintch mod into my ps3, so I can now eject all the discs with that.

2 things you can do:
1) Find out how to repair it, I have no idea how, but i'd love to know how to fix this problem too (lot more work to pull discs in and out with my swap switch switch)
2) built in the swap switch that we have, this way you can still use your ps3, but its a little more work swapping discs and you will have to solder some into your ps3 and cut some holes in it (to built in the switch)

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thanks david891.....
i would too like to build the swap switch...
bt in the swap switch tut. i saw that u took the power from the bluray disc drive connectors on the motherboard... bt since the problem seems to b wid motherboard so i cant any more draw any pwer from the board since it reads only 2.5 volts insted of the normal 12 volts....
is there any other way around????

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I took the power from the card reader, wich is about 4 or 4,5 volts.
i think 2,5 volts should be enough for the motor since the original power from the motor is only 3 volts I thought.

Someone posted pictures of how to use power of the cardreader, but those pictures are removed, and I cant remember where it had to be connected.

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that is not a problem at all buddy..... i dont have a card reader on my ps3... it is a 80 gb us ver.

here are the pics of my mobo if u wana c 'em

http://picasaweb.google.co.in/sunnysmat/...ectlink

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Originally posted by sunnysmat:

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thanks....

i have succesfuly built my swap switch (the three way switch method)....
now i can put the disc in and pull it out without any problem.... bt the disc stays there and doesnt even rotate because by this method v are only able to power the disc load motor and not the other disc systems...

please tell me a way to make the disc spin and work normal as i dont have any power from the motherboard.....

in a post u have mentiond that two out of the 4 wires that connect the drive to the board are dedicated only to power the disc load motor.... please tell me which ones are those and if the other two wires are for rest of the work, how much voltage do they need and how can i power those.....\\\\

please help out....

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Originally posted by David891:

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Originally posted by sunnysmat:

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thanks....

i have succesfuly built my swap switch (the three way switch method)....
now i can put the disc in and pull it out without any problem.... bt the disc stays there and doesnt even rotate because by this method v are only able to power the disc load motor and not the other disc systems...

please tell me a way to make the disc spin and work normal as i dont have any power from the motherboard.....

in a post u have mentiond that two out of the 4 wires that connect the drive to the board are dedicated only to power the disc load motor.... please tell me which ones are those and if the other two wires are for rest of the work, how much voltage do they need and how can i power those.....\\\\

please help out....

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Is the original connector from the drive to the motherboard still in place?

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Originally posted by sunnysmat:

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Originally posted by David891:

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Originally posted by sunnysmat:

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thanks....

i have succesfuly built my swap switch (the three way switch method)....
now i can put the disc in and pull it out without any problem.... bt the disc stays there and doesnt even rotate because by this method v are only able to power the disc load motor and not the other disc systems...

please tell me a way to make the disc spin and work normal as i dont have any power from the motherboard.....

in a post u have mentiond that two out of the 4 wires that connect the drive to the board are dedicated only to power the disc load motor.... please tell me which ones are those and if the other two wires are for rest of the work, how much voltage do they need and how can i power those.....\\\\

please help out....

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Is the original connector from the drive to the motherboard still in place?

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yes it is.... all the connectors are intact....
the ribon data cable is also fine. bt as ive told u earlier, there is very little voltage in that connector which is not enough to power up the whole drive system..... i am able to put in and eject the disc by the swap switch bt not play them

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Originally posted by igal74:

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Salut a tous.

Une modification hardware du lecteur Blu-ray, vous permet de lancer vos copies de sauvegarde PS2.

Prérequis:

1) Un schema clair et précis.
2) La liste des composants nécessaires.
3) Le détail des outils nécessaire.
4) Choix de l'implantation.
5) Mise en oeuvre.

J'ai trouvé sur ce site ainsi que sur gx-mod.com ce shema fait à la hate que je me suis permis de mettre au clair.

Avant tout prévoir un peu de place, une grande table et un café


1) Voici donc le schéma que j'ai remis au propre. (la source se trouve en haut a droite de l'image)


2) Liste des composants nécessaires: 3 interrupteurs 6 pins bipolaire, 2 diodes 1,5 volt rouge, 2.5 mètres de fils rouge et enfin 2.5 mètres de blanc.
Le tout a couté 12.5 euros.



3) Le détail des outils nécessaires: Fer à souder, Pompe à déssouder, fil d'étain, tounevis crusiforme émanté, tournevis cruciforme d'opticien, pince à bec long, pince coupante, lame de cutter, petit tournevis torx, perceuse, mèche à bois de 6, petite lime en queue de rat.



4) Choix de l'implantation.
Projet initial



Implantation Définitive
Le meilleur compromis est de percer 3 trous d'un diamètre de 6mm, à une distance de 15mm du bord exterieur de la console, et à 8mm, 22mm et 34mm du bord exterieur du lecteur de cartes mémoires.



5) Mise en oeuvre.

Voici le montage 6 Volts et Masse sans soudure qui a certainement échoué.



Ici il faut couper la languette qui se trouve sur le chassis bas de la console, et qui gêne l'implantation de l'interrupteur No 1.



Voici le cablage incomplet des interrupteurs 1, 2 et 3.



Voici un repérage des différents cablages.



Après avoir suivi le tutoriel http://tutoriaux.gueux-forum.net/index. ? S2_SUR_PS3 qui est le même que celui proposé sur http://www.ultimateps3.fr , je suis confronté à deux problèmes.

A) En ayant laissé l'interrupteur 1 sur Off, je n'arrive plus à insére de DVD puisqu'à la détection, d'une tentative d'insertion, le moteur essais d'éjecter le DVD et non de l'insérer. J'ai donc essayé d'utiliser la fonction Manuelle, en positionnant l'interrupteur 1 sur On, 2 sur Injection et 3 sur Manuel mais malheureusement, aucune réaction ni éclairérage des diodes et le syptome reste le même. Après reflection, je pense que je n'ai pas correctement mis en contact la source 6 Volts ainsi que la Masse.

B) Après avoir tout remis en état d'origine, le lecteur insère le DVD, et une fois inséré, le lecteur fait un sale bruit mécanique comme si un mecanisme n'était plus à sa place. Cela dure trois secondes environs, puis s'arrète et finalement, aucun jeu n'est detecté et impossible d'ejecter le DVD.

Après un jour de recul et en regardant les differents composants que j'ai déssoudé, je me rend compte de deux choses.

J'ai inversé la polarité de la diode 1 ainsi que de la diode 2. En effet j'ai positionné le pole [Moins] de la diode 1 coté 6 Volts donc [Plus] et j'ai suivi cette logique avec la diode 2. Il me semble que j'aurais du positionner le pole [Plus] de la diode 1 coté 6 Volts et suivre cette logique avec la diode 2.

D'autre part, je n'ai pas réussis à alimenter en 6 Volts, ce qui explique l'echec complet de mon montage. Finalement, c'est un moindre mal, puisque cela m'a évité de mettre en panne mon lecteur.

Merci de m'apporter votre aide à résoudre mon problème de lecteur, en effet, je pense ne pas avoir positionner correctement tous les éléments mecanique du lecteur, un shema de montage ou une vue éclaté serait la bienvenue.

Mardi 22 Septembre 2009:

Après quelques jours de repos, j'ai décidé de me pencher de nouveau sur cet exploit, et résoudre les problèmes un à un.

J'ai donc entrepris de remettre mon lecteur en état de marche comme d'origine. J'ai donc démonté le lecteur, puis remonté délicatement, en m'appliquant quant à la mise en place de la partie supérieur du lecteur qui est surmonté de plussieurs mécanismes "amovibles". Une fois fait, j'ai donc effectué divers tests de sorte a vérifier son bon fonctionnement. J'ai dû trouver une astuce de sorte à maintenir les divers mécanismes en place lors de mes prochains démontages, et j'ai donc opté pour une solution assez simple mais radicale qui consiste à "scotcher" les éléments "amovibles".

voici une photo du scotchage.



Il me reste à reprendre la mise en oeuvre de l'alimentation 6 Volts.


Il suffit de décosser le fil "6 Volts" et la "Masse", une fois fait, chauffer et souder.

J'ai donc appliqué le Shéma proposé et que j'ai mis au propre, et je me retrouve face à un nouveau probleme.

L'autodetection est bien faite, mais le moteur "Ejecte" au lieu "d'Injecter" le DVD.
Sûr du montage que j'ai maintes fois repris et controlé, j'en viens donc à la conclusion suivante, le "Schéma" présente une "anomalie".
J'ai donc inversé le fil 1 et 2 du moteur comme présenté sur le schéma ci-dessous.



Et la ôh miracle, l'autodetection se passe sans encombre.

Je passe donc à la phase de testes.

=== Automatique ===
1) Injection => Ok
2) Detection => Ok
3) Ejection => Ok
4) Injection => Ok
5) Detection => Ok
=== Bascule en mode Manuel ===
=== Position Ejection ===
=== Allumage moteur === ( Diodes allumées )
6) Ejection => Ok ( Par contre, le moteur du lecteur ne s'arrete pas de tourner...!)
=== Extinction moteur === ( Diodes éteintes )
=== Position Injection ===
7) Mise en place de la copie de sauvegarde
=== Allumage moteur === ( Diodes allumées )
8) Insertion du DVD ( Le DVD ne s'insere pas, il bouge à peine, il manque de puissance semble-t-il )

Je décide de controler les différents voltages dans differentes situations afin de déterminer un manque éventuel de tension électrique.

Teste des differents voltages.

En automatique, le control du voltage emis lors de l'insertion/éjection d'un DVD est de 3.6 Volts.
En manuel, le control du voltage lors de l'insertion/éjection d'un DVD est de 3.0 Volts.

Plusieurs questions me viennent l'esprit.

A) Est il normal que le lecteur de DVD ne s'arrete pas lors de la mise en position manuel?
B) Faut il envisager de retirer une diode, de sorte à envoyer 4.5 Volts au moteur ?
C) Les 4,5 Volts donneraient plus de puissance, mais risquent de griller le moteur!

Pour le moment, je décide de suspendre mes experiences, sans informations complémentaires.
N'hésitez pas à me donner votre avis, toute aide est la bienvenue.
Help me :)

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Originally posted by sunnysmat:

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hey....
please upload the ful version of this tutorial(the one that you uploaded earlier in some other langauge)......
i really need it......
please also tell me that if i can use my drive normally without using the power from the motherboard????

thanks....

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Originally posted by Drahnix:

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No one knows how to fix it?

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Originally posted by David891:

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Originally posted by Drahnix:

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No one knows how to fix it?

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Dont you have a simple battery pack?


like this one but with 2 batteries.

Just look at some old eletronic devices you dont use anymore, which has 2 AA batteries in it, get it out and connect the two wires to where you normally would connect the power adapter wires to.

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Originally posted by kratosjoh:

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Actually I did a kinda different method than the original guy and the others following his guide, I found that I can keep the auto load motor and still have the manual switch with only 1 3-way switch, he suggested we use a 3 way switch for manual loading and if we want to keep auto loading too we put in 2 2-way switches. I don't see why those switches are even needed now.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z74637Xm2I[/YOUTUBE]

Still not final, in the morning I will go shopping for a smaller/cuter switch to match the system ;)

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