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Nintendo is appealing to the older "mature" audience!
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s3a
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14. July 2006 @ 19:05 |
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Nintendo is appealing to the older "mature" audience (Sort of)!
I did not get this from an official source or anything but it is based on what I think and the reason I think this because:
1. Starcraft Ghost "might" come to the Wii!
2. The Godfather is coming on to the Wii!
3. Need for Speed Carbon is coming to the Wii!
4. Red Steel is coming to the Wii as an exclusive!
5. Metroid Prime 3: Corruption is coming to the Wii!
6. Resident Evil is coming to the Wii!
7. Medal of Honor: Airborne is coming to the Wii!
Now all I am waiting for is more good games such as Splinter Cell, Far Cry and Half-Life to join Nintendo, then Nintendo will own all other companies and will take back what is rightfully theirs; the video game market.
The Wii alone MIGHT make more profit than the PS3 and Xbox 360 Combined!!! As for the DS, it sucks! It could have been a good handheld if it would sport good games such as the Wii and if it had graphics comparing to the Gamecube not the N64! Knowing Nintendo, they have to make things cheaper than the opposition, so...a good tactic for them would have been to hold off the realease for a year after the PSP to make the Graphical hardware etc. be of less value therefore they could sell it at a better price than the PSP as well as having the same graphics but dual screens etc.
I would rather play Need for Speed with very good graphics on two small screens (3 inches each) with the car and a bit of the side view on the bottom screen and the road ahead on the top screen wouldn't you? That would be a better idea than having a useless map on the bottom, am I right?
If I were Nintendo's "Iwata", wouldn't you think Nintendo would own?? I would also make the garbage Mario games to make the kids happy..I would actually appeal to all gamers rather than just saying it and appealing to kids...however this talk was useless because on the Wii side of things, Nintendo is finnaly understanding that they truly have to keep their word on the "appealing all gamers" speach.
Who agrees with me?
If I insult you...don't get offended...my insults are "friendly insults"...I know this sounds stupid (ridiculous) but I am fet up of writing, "no offense" in my posts...
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oofRome
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15. July 2006 @ 18:14 |
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The Wii alone MIGHT make more profit than the PS3 and Xbox 360 Combined!!! As for the DS, it sucks! It could have been a good handheld if it would sport good games such as the Wii and if it had graphics comparing to the Gamecube not the N64! Knowing Nintendo, they have to make things cheaper than the opposition, so...a good tactic for them would have been to hold off the realease for a year after the PSP to make the Graphical hardware etc. be of less value therefore they could sell it at a better price than the PSP as well as having the same graphics but dual screens etc.
personally, I think Nintendo did just about everything right with the DS. Being half the price of the PSP, with a lot of things that sufficiently differentiate itself from other handhelds, the DS is quite the surprise success story to a lot of industry professionals who thought the psp would have it pegged.
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I would rather play Need for Speed with very good graphics on two small screens (3 inches each) with the car and a bit of the side view on the bottom screen and the road ahead on the top screen wouldn't you? That would be a better idea than having a useless map on the bottom, am I right?
I'm not too much of a Racind genre type of person, so I wouldn't know. What I do know is that graphics have almost always come second to gameplay. I havn't played either psp or DS versions, so that's all I can put in.
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Nintendo is finnaly understanding that they truly have to keep their word on the "appealing all gamers" speach.
Who knows. I think they are trying to. Games like Resident Evil 4 really surprised a lot of people who shared the belief that Nintendo was too "younger market" oriented.
I just hope Nintendo can keep making video games and consoles that I enjoy, regardless of how "mature" they are. (The whole "mature" thing is actually fairly hypocritical and ironic, but that's neither here nor there.)
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15. July 2006 @ 18:52 |
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Whats up guys
I have a question, just out of curiosity do any of you know the specs of the nintendo Wii yet?
Thanks
Peace Out!
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16. July 2006 @ 03:11 |
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it's a pity someone took off Iwata's quote about the technical specifications:
"They really don't matter."
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16. July 2006 @ 12:04 |
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only four of the games you listed would likely be mature rated and the DS is much better than the PSP. The graphics are alot better than n64s (take mario 64 as an example) and the DS would be a complete failure if it came out a year after PSP. Two reasons its so much more succesful than PSP is because the price is much lower and it had time to establish itsself before PSP came out. The main reason is because it has good games. DS has mario and luigi, mario 64, new super mario, trauma center, castlevania, mario kart, pheonix wright, advance wars, kirby, yoshi, metroid prime hunters, and alot more good games. PSP just has PS2 ports and the metal gear games. Sony focused on graphics nintendo foucused on gameplay and nintendo wins.
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18. July 2006 @ 14:03 |
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rofl.
All but one of those titles is multi-platform. Nintendo isn't making them, other companies (Mostly EA) are. They release for everything possible to get the most money. Nintendo's own games are still just as kiddy as they always have been. As for Metroid Prime 3.... I'm just not looking forward to it. I didn't play number two. Meh.
Nintendo's system is going to be fun, but their focus remains the same, as always.
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18. July 2006 @ 21:01 |
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I disagree that Nintendo's focus will stay the same (in a way)...
Yes, they should not change their focus for their Nintendo fans (I am not one) and they should leave EA/Valve etc make third party games for them to appeal to us, mature gamers (I am one)...
Mature games is not about blood and gore, its about not setting limits to violence...therefore making games realistic and fun...bassically, I am just not the Nintendo fan in terms of games...Starcraft Ghost on the Wii alone will make me buy the Wii...I won't buy it right away tho because I am hoping this technology comes to the PC...if they do that...Blizzard should make a comp version...even if they don't do that, there should be a comp version! Make console versions but don't stop the PC versions!! Blizzard/Valve/Nintendo need me to be their president!! I will appeal to everyone!!
If I insult you...don't get offended...my insults are "friendly insults"...I know this sounds stupid (ridiculous) but I am fet up of writing, "no offense" in my posts...
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19. July 2006 @ 06:19 |
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.....Your 'appeal' would garaunteedly be much different if you had tried the SC:G game at E3. As huge a fan as I am for Blizzard, and every game they've released, even back into the old school. This title is TERRIBLE. It's a great idea, but you need to realize something: Blizzard is not developing Ghost. They have sold rights to it to another company to produce. Then that company failed, and another one came in. Then cam company number three. This game has passed hands from blizzard, then to three different companies. It has had that many completely different design teams working on it. And if you look at gaming history, that's a recipe for miserable, low-budget failure.
It's not because Blizzard is anything less than a great company (Or at least was, until most of their people left all at once, yet again, unnecesary history lesson). The problem with ghost is that they have allowed three low-level companies with almost no experience in retail games work on it. These people had never made a successful game before, they had no communication with eachother. One company went bankrupt, so the next company got this half started skeleton project in their lap with no explanation or understanding, that company worked on it for a year or two, then they didn't want it anymore (Also not a good sign), Nihilistic got it, decided they'd rather make a shooter than a stealth title, and they worked on it for about six months, brought a truly horrific show to E3, and shortly thereafter cancelled the project altogether. It's not Blizzard, it's these other rookie programming companies who are trying to piece together other company's unfinished work.
A couple other things:
-Blizzard themselves has had failures in the past. They have had to abandon projects before. Just after SC, they were working on a WarCraft based adventure project, similar to 'The Dig' or 'Monkey Island' starring a character that was later used in WarCraft III. But this does go to show that even a design team as good as them, sometimes makes a bad project, and has to realize it.
-Blizzard STARTED on home consoles, not PC. They began with titles like Black Raven and The Lost Vikings, long before anyone had even imagined titles like WarCraft. So, if they do(And after the show they had, I hope they don't) release this on consoles, then it will simply be like a return to their own roots. And since when has that been a bad thing?
Lastly, I'm expecting to hear one or two of the more intelligent people on this board to tell me that that was a "Work in Progress" and "The final product will be much improved". Bottom line here is that the areas were dull, the textures were bland, and the framerate was TERRIBLE, not to mention clunky controls. It honestly looked like a launch title on the PS2, some would say it looked like a dreamcast game, but only a couple DC titles (such as DOA2) really reached up that high in graphics. Unfinished or not, the artwork was done. They don't redo textures this late in development. There is no excuse for clunky controls and bad framerate; no other game at the show had problems anything like this. (Save a couple titles in the lower floor, which are independent, and/or overseas low budget titles anyway.) The game they showed everyone was a massacre of the StarCraft brand, and unless Blizzard massively re-tools it *THEMSELVES*(Because if they buckle down and do it themselves, rather than lending to another rookie design team, it could potentially be fixed) it would only serve to insult gamers and SC fans in it's current state.
A lot of people were very upset when it got canned, but if you had seen the product in action, not just Blizzard's tweaked videos(They played with the framerate on their preview clips) and still images; you would be very glad that it was cancelled. It sounds like they are planning a next-gen release, if that's the case, they have a LOT of work to do on this one.
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One more thing, about the technology coming to PC. It probably will in less than a year, trust me on that much. The problem is, when things like that come to the PC, there is no standard of quality. They sell gamepads for the PC that range in all kinds of ways for functionality and rumble features, some requiring their own clunky drivers, others only supporting a few titles, it's a mess, and while this technology will certainly hit the PC, I doubt it's translation of quality will hold to Wii's. It's unfortunate, because I have been a long time PC gamer myself.
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Did I mention that if a Wii-mote comes to the PC as well as Starcraft Ghost...the PC will own the Wii!?!?! Then the Wii will follow, and it will be followed by the 360 which will be followed by the PS3...
I hope your right that Starcraft Ghost will come to PC...and I also hope that a Wii-mote comes to PC...then I am not buying a Wii...if there actually was a Wii-mote for PC then PC would truly own because you can have every type of gaming, mouse+keyboard/wii-mote for PC/360 Controller for PC...
Who agrees with me?
If I insult you...don't get offended...my insults are "friendly insults"...I know this sounds stupid (ridiculous) but I am fet up of writing, "no offense" in my posts...
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oofRome
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19. July 2006 @ 20:57 |
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I'm really curious how someone got to see the "finished" starcraft ghost product...
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20. July 2006 @ 03:39 |
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There have been multiple motion sensing controllers developed for the PC .. none of them that were any good (except for maybe a flight sim)
The only reason that the wii-mote is going to do so well on the Wii is because it has a large company that is putting everything they have into developing around it. Without software specifically developed for this type of hardware you're always going to end up with a second rate product. Even Ubisoft had difficulties using the new control scheme, and they have a lot of support from Nintendo.. can you imagine a PC developer with little support from the hardware manufacturer?
Either way, the topic of this thread has been lost .. there's already a Star Craft: Ghost thread and multiple wiimote threads.
/back on topic
I don't think a title has to be rated 'mature' to appeal to a more mature audience.. for example, the new Wii Music is aimed at an older, more mature audience, yet will most likely be rated E for everyone. Nintendo is definately moving towards a more 'mature' audience, but not necessarily in the blood, guts and violence way.
When you really think about it .. most of the people who want to play the 'mature' titles, are infact not that mature themselves.
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20. July 2006 @ 03:58 |
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now if only metal gear solid would come out on the Wii
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20. July 2006 @ 12:34 |
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I think i would want Call of Duty 2 to come to Wii more than any other game..... it would be sooo crazy to play like a good good multiplayerr war game (not ragging on MoH or MGS or anythin, butt i just think CoD would be crazy as all heck, or any good WW2 game
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20. July 2006 @ 12:45 |
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cod 3 will be out soon in fact it's a launch title for the ps3 and I beleive the wii as well.
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dmanuz
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20. July 2006 @ 13:13 |
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That's awesome :-D
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20. July 2006 @ 17:46 |
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call of duty 2 is the best WW2 shooter ever. I doubt CoD3 will dissapoint either
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20. July 2006 @ 18:36 |
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I loved cod 2.I have it for the pc.Great shooter the reason I like it is because it's not like ghost recon or socom.I mean You can get all shot up and it's fun as hell as where ghost recon it's like 3 shots and your a goner.Ghost recon is almost like work you know?
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20. July 2006 @ 19:03 |
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lmaooo yeah man dude it's exactly like work. It blows doesn't it
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21. July 2006 @ 07:28 |
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I'm really curious how someone got to see the "finished" starcraft ghost product...
A 'final stages' release was shown at E3, as well as a manager's convention for Gamestop, it may have been shown in other places, but these are the two that I know of. At release, they were showing the levels that had been debugged, and had them up and running on the actual platforms. It really isn't that strange, considering how long that game was in development. Not to mention many games are shown in a near final (Or sometimes the true final) state at E3 many months before release. Generally speaking, the ones that don't release soon after E3 tend to be the ones that receive less positive reactions than they anticipated. I've never *been* to the gamestop manager's conventions, my boss went to the last one, late '05 and tried the multiplayer portion, which he said was very fun, although at the time there were only three playable races/characters, he wasn't sure if that was final, or just demo result. Things like ugly repetetive textures, clunky control feel and reactions, and horrid framerates are not the result of a 'playable demo'. When they have a product shown this widely, they are showing at least part of a finished result, not the whole game, and granted, there is more work to be done. But they are releasing levels to be played that are in a complete state which the company feels accurately represents the game as a whole. And what they represented was a piece of garbage that most people didn't play for more than a minute or two.
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21. July 2006 @ 07:37 |
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wow i remember starcraft ghost was suposed to come out like.... 4 years ago...
it's about damned time they get it done.
REVIVE STARSIEGE TRIBES AS WELL!! it'sa bout time for that, dontcha think?
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21. July 2006 @ 07:44 |
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HAHA lol yep kinda I like a little ghost recon but alot of cod and moh.
Never played starcraft myself.I'll have to try that one sometime.
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21. July 2006 @ 13:37 |
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ok I just saw dmanuz post on the windows games forum and I guess I have played it when it was tribes I did.Good game.
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24. July 2006 @ 09:43 |
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I loved Starsiege Tribes. I played every entry in the series, starting with that one. Admittedly, I never played the original starsiege series(Mechwarrior ripoff until the 'tribes' branch).
I've always enjoyed them, even the PS2 version, and the latest PC release complete with (get this) an actual plot line.
As much as I loved them. The sales were just terrible on the last two titles, which were Tribes Vengeance(PC), a great title with a good story(for once in the series); and Tribes: Aerial Assault(PS2), a decent enough console title with full online support for voice, keyboard, and plenty of players/bots. A very pleasing title that offered fans more tribes play with online options.
Unfortunately, it seems that the Tribes concept just doesn't sell well to the general masses anymore. Unless done as a hugely advertised launch title that were online from day one; I don't think a Tribes title will ever do well again. I love them, but the idea is no longer as unique as it used to be, replaced by titles like Battlefield and Halo. Again, *I* would play it, but I don't see it happening any time soon.
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28. July 2006 @ 14:22 |
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I think they're appealing to the older crowd but not in the sense of mature games. To me, it seems like nintendo is pushing for the old Nin64/NES gamers to come back out of their shell and pick up a wii, cause alot of the games are similar in the sense that, they're simple fun, and with the wii remote it makes it more intuitive while making it possible for anyone to play. By the way, does anyone know if they are still pushing the whole thing where you can download any of their previous games and play them on the wii?
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