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7. June 2008 @ 00:16 |
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Hey, turns out a regular fan will work fine in the unwindowed side of the case.
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7. June 2008 @ 11:13 |
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Hey, turns out a regular fan will work fine in the unwindowed side of the case.
Thanks for all your help abuzar. Very much appreciated :)
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Indeed, think of the 9800GTX as an 8800GTS OC, rather than anything special. While we're at it, I suppose you should think of the 8800GTS as an 8800GT OC, since that's not much better. If you can hold out for the next gen cards then do it.
That's an interesting way to put it. But the 8800GTS G92 has more stream processors than the 8800GT as well.
The jump from my 8800GTS 320MB to even an 8800GT will be huge. If you guys think that 8800GTS will be a good deal, then I'm going to order it today. I don't know how long it's going to be there, so I'm making my big purchase today. I can't wait to turn up the settings in Crysis :)
Here's what I'm getting:
OCZ StealthXstream 600W(replacing the Liberty 620W. It's failing methinks)
2 x Raidmax Smilodon(I might get something different for myself or my friend, I'm gonna take a look at their other cases quick)
MSI 8800GTS 512MB G92
and all the other stuff for my friend's build.
This should bring me back up to the same performance as my 8800GTX. It's gonna be nice :)
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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7. June 2008 @ 11:31 |
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cant you wait 2 weeks?
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7. June 2008 @ 11:54 |
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Show me performance previews. Change my mind :)
Honestly, I've lost faith in AMD/ATi. The Athlon 64 architecture is still very fast for its age, and the X1800/X1900 series was incredible. But the HD3870/HD3850s and the Phenom leave a lot to be desired for performance. Not saying that they're bad products, they just disappointed me after raising my hopes so high. If the HD4870 turns out to be amazing, then eBay will see another video card for sale very soon :)
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7. June 2008 @ 12:13 |
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Abuzar: Interesting - but I tend to disregard specifications for graphics cards because they seem a bit meaningless (read the overperforming 8800GTX's relatively low clock speed, and the underperforming HD3870's ridiculously high memory speed) - I only compare cards based on an overall view of all the real world benchmarks. In that the 8800GTS seems to come out very little faster than the 8800GT. For the price Estuansis has found one for though, it would still be worth buying.
However, Estuansis, I'm sure you know this yourself, graphics card previews are always pretty meaningless until the real product comes out - at least wait until the 4850 comes out and you get some idea as for how the 4870 will fare when it comes out in a couple of months' time - or if you're not prepared to wait that long, just get a 4850 and have done with it. If there's one thing I haven't lost faith in ATI for, it's the performance of their GPUs - yes, it's less than the plethora of various nvidia cards that have come out recently - put there's less than a 40% difference between the 3870 and even the best solo card nvidia have pulled out of their hats lately - and a big price difference in most cases. It's things like nasty drivers and powerplay that put me off.
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7. June 2008 @ 16:14 |
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sam there is ALOT more to gfx cards than clocks.
Shader, TMUs ROPs etc etc etc
trust me, the 8800GTS is its own product, not an 8800GT
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7. June 2008 @ 16:20 |
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Yeah, I'm well aware - but you have to admit, the difference between the two cards in real world performance is hardly spectacular...
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7. June 2008 @ 16:25 |
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agreed (unless you reach 1920+ Res)
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7. June 2008 @ 16:28 |
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Interesting - I wasn't aware of that. However, they make 1 GB 8800GT, I don't think one exists for the 8800GTS. For high res, that's going to make a difference.
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7. June 2008 @ 16:43 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Interesting - I wasn't aware of that. However, they make 1 GB 8800GT, I don't think one exists for the 8800GTS. For high res, that's going to make a difference.
1GB wont make a difference, if it does, its 1-2FPS.
the memory bandwidth is to cripled to use the 1GB
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7. June 2008 @ 17:14 |
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Hmm, I'm doubtful. Even an X1900XT could have made use of more RAM.
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7. June 2008 @ 17:17 |
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crysis is the only one that uses more than 512atm, at about 660. its not worth one crap game
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7. June 2008 @ 17:24 |
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9. June 2008 @ 23:05 |
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Ugh... Quake 4... That game had so many performance problems on my X800GTO and X850XT. Ran fine on some parts and just chugged on others. The X1800XT handled it well though. 8800GTS does even better. The 512MB should be an even bigger improvement.
I honestly can't see the difference between the 8800GTS G92 and the 8800GTX in most benchmarks. They seem to be about equal. I expect I'll see lowered temps though.
On my 8800GTX, the Crysis demo played beautifully all high at 1650 x 1080. I'm talking mid 40's FPS average. On the 8800GTS 320MB, eh, not so good. About 15-25FPS. 320MB really kills you in Crysis. Look at any benchmark and you'll notice that performance drops sharply with anything lower than 512MB. I'm excited to see how the full game all patched up fares on my new 8800GTS. I think it'll be nice. And Colin McRae's DiRT really chugs too at Ultra settings. Only decent performance at high.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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9. June 2008 @ 23:49 |
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Yeah dirt's almost as demanding as Crysis. Racing games are hard to play with a low frame rate. It's worth bearing in mind that nvidia cards don't manage memory as efficiently as ATI ones so they seem to 'run out sooner' - a 1GB HD3870 was released recently, and scored the same as the 512MB version give or take 5% in every test, no matter the res, filters or whatever. The nvidia cards, however, were miles apart.
What's interesting to see is that three 8800 Ultras absolutely liquidise a pair of 9800GX2s...
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10. June 2008 @ 00:28 |
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What's interesting to see is that three 8800 Ultras absolutely liquidise a pair of 9800GX2s...
That doesn't surprise me. The 8800 Ultra is about equal to the 9800GTX. Advantages being 768MB of memory and the 384-bit bus. It only makes sense that it would scale better with multiple cards. Though, I could be wrong and it could be something completely different. Do you have an article for reference?
Something interesting that caught my eye. The new Palit Sonic cards. OC'd, aftermarket cooling, awesome cooler design. Anyone looking to spend some money on some nice cards, check out the Sonics. Here's one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261001
They offer 1GB cards too for those with huge monitors like sammorris.
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10. June 2008 @ 00:33 |
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I used to have one. A 1GB 8800GT. Pretty good right right there. Overclocked pretty good and that was a decent cooler.
That was my card when I sold my computer.
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10. June 2008 @ 00:39 |
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Was it the Palit Sonic? If so, then we have the same tastes :) I was really tempted to blow the extra and get the 8800GTS Sonic :D
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10. June 2008 @ 00:44 |
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Yup Palit 8800GT 1GB Sonic edition. Lol looks like we both do have the same tastes.
I just got another Smilodon in for another build. This time I took off the LED fan that's in front of the CPU and put it in the VGA duct(the CPU cooler I bought is so big it wont fit with the fan these). Then I took the fan from the vga duct thingy and I put it behind the hdd rack thing.
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10. June 2008 @ 00:52 |
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As nice as that cooler is the only stock cooler that's in my allow list currently is this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121217
I undervolted the stock fan with no modifications to it to 6V and my idle temp is 37C and load temp is 62C. Read it and weep folks - that little cooler there surpasses anything I've seen on a video card to date. The noise level? Well, if I turn all my other fans off and shut my hard disks down, it's still inaudible at more than 2 inches.
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10. June 2008 @ 00:55 |
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@Abuzar1, Nice use of proper terms ;P
Yeah, sounds like a solid little rig you have planned. I know you can build 'em with the best :)
Just made the order Saturday, so I should be seeing everything around Wednesday or Thursday. It's a big order so I expect multiple boxes...
I was also seriously considering a 3870, but performance wouldn't be much better in most games. The 512MB was what I was looking for though. If I hadn't found that 8800GTS I would've been an ATi man again :P
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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10. June 2008 @ 00:57 |
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To be honest, you're better off with an 8800GTS than an HD3870. The 4800 series will be another matter though. If Asus make one with that cooler again I shall be buying.
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10. June 2008 @ 01:00 |
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Agreed. The performance is just plain higher. I hope the 4850/4870s are fast. I might also be purchasing one if the prices are right. I'm going to just wait for a while and see what the prices even out to.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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10. June 2008 @ 01:03 |
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Yeah, I'll be keeping a close eye on them.
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10. June 2008 @ 01:06 |
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I can't wait either. I hope they extremely out perform EVERYTHING out there, so it will be a great upgrade when I finally build a computer for myself with a Nehalem Quad Core and one of these new cards!
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