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13. June 2008 @ 12:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was going to say, a solo 80mm rear fan today is very poor - it's not as if there isn't room for it...



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13. June 2008 @ 12:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah and the Extreme version is only like 55 after rebates.

Also,I finally used that Xigamatek cooler, and I have to say, installation is a BITCH. I cut myself numerous times, and in the end I had to take the motherboard out. It cooled very well, but I don't think it was fully touching the CPU as the pins kept on popping out. If I had a bolt through kit for it I believe it would have performed better.

The temps were around 60C LOAD for an hour or so at 3.6Ghz and 1.517v.
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13. June 2008 @ 12:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmm - that's disappointing. To be fair though, find me a tower cooler that's a breeze to install and I'll be all over it. The Ultra-120 is relatively easy to install as a cooler, but getting the fan on with those clips is disappointingly fiddly, and as I've found, losing the fan clips is easily done - no spares are provided. Consequently my CPu fan is now tied on...




The cable that's used as string is in fact the cable that connects the PWM potentiometer to a Silverstone FM121...



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No. The fan is not 80mm. That is the older version of the case. The one in the newegg pictures and the one I received both have 120mm exhaust. And this is the blue one. Take a look:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811156063

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I thought you were going to get a 8800GTS G92? Did you get the Palit 8800GT instead?
I did get the 8800GTS, but I got the Evga 8800GT for my friend. Remember, I was buying parts for 2 different systems.

EDIT: Gonna be a while before I feel up to assembling my own rig. A bad case of poison ivy has dashed my spirits :(



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16. June 2008 @ 22:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Poison ivy? I don't quite follow.



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16. June 2008 @ 22:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You get a rash when you get in contact with poison ivy. I'm guessing that's what happened.
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Ah, he meant literally. I'm aware it's nasty stuff, I wasn't sure if it was metaphorical poison ivy or real... :P



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17. June 2008 @ 11:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Eh, the doctor gave me steroids. I'm ok for now... kinda itchy and swollen. It's on both arms, my left hand, left leg, stomach, and other... areas >.>

Anyhoo, I'm looking at the case now. I think I might remove the vga bar, but that interferes with the look of the case. Should I just keep the exhaust fan there for the sake of airflow?




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18. June 2008 @ 01:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Really? I thought the VGA bar made the case look cooler. You could see inside, but not enough. The perfect balance.

I don't think airflow will be affected much.
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18. June 2008 @ 13:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I also think the vga bar makes the case look cool. I might leave it there and remove the fan. Oh well. We'll see what happens when I start transferring parts. It's gonna be a while though. Poison ivy is a very messy rash to have >.<



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19. June 2008 @ 10:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, that sucks man. Let us know when you get better.
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19. June 2008 @ 11:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, you have my well wishes Estuansis...



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Well, I finally have all my parts in the case. The side panel has a kind of fiber-optic effect going on with my cold cathode. Looks very cool :P

I wish I had a camera to show you guys my wire management. I actually took some time with it now that I'm in a smaller case. I routed most of my extra cables and the hooks ups for my lighting behind the mobo tray. It looks really clean inside. I'm happy with it :)

The OCZ StealthXstream is working just fine right now. It's almost dead silent with all the other fans in my case turned off, so very near the Corsair 550VX in noise level. Powering these components:

2 x 120mm fans
2 x 80mm fans
2 x 320GB SATA HDDs
Lite-On DVD-RW
8800GTS G92 512MB
E6750 @ 3.4GHz
AC Freezer 7 Pro
GA-P35-DS3L
Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music
12" Blue Cold Cathode.

I'm using the fan on the VGA bar as intake to create airflow for my PCI slots. Seems to be doing okay right now. I don't want to get rid of the bar but the fan doesn't seem to serve much purpose for me. I'm taking out the fan and the blue clip thing. I'm thinking some sort of LED display for the empty spot.



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24. June 2008 @ 01:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Did you get a sound activated cathode? I want to do a hardware mod in my Xbox 360 and one of those in there.
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24. June 2008 @ 18:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No. It apparently has the capability to be sound sensitive, but mine isn't. It's just a cheap Logisys CC light. Cost $7 so I'm not worried. It works fine and is very bright.

I also picked up a copy of Rainbow Six Vegas. The console-to-pc port seems to be fine. The controls are smooth and intuitive. My only complaint is the performance. ~40 FPS at 1920 x 1200. Plays very smoothly, so a minor annoyance at best.



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Think about what graphics card you have, now how old the game is, and how it looks. I am disgusted with how the original Vegas runs, and so should you be.



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Yeah, it really doesn't run the best. I get about the same performance in Crysis or DiRT. I don't really care much, though. I can run it maxed at native resolution :)

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I also like the single player campaign a lot. Not much on story, but enough action and arcadey-ness to make it enjoyable just the same.
Performance-wise, it's a terrible port. I'm lucky I have a PC that can handle it. Framerates stay silky about 90% of the time. But it's still a great game. I personally think the graphics look awesome. Easily a 4 out of 5 IMO.



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25. June 2008 @ 05:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For modern games I'd give the graphics 7/10 and performance 2/10 - for Crysis I'd give the graphics 8/10 and the performance 3/10. Contrastingly I would give Half Life 2 Episode two and Call of Duty 4 both 10/10 for graphics and 9/10 and 8/10 respectively for performance. More games like those please.




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25. June 2008 @ 09:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I suppose this is the only place to discuss Graphics cards. In other threads people seem to be choosing 8600GT OVER 8800GS!

Anyway, you guys seen the reviews for the 4870?

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1481/sa...fire/index.html

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=581&type=expert&pid=8
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25. June 2008 @ 09:35 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
disappointing really, 50% more expensive and only 20% faster. Suppose you're paying extra for a cooler that actually works...
It's nice to see the performance of 4870s in crossfire, but the reason why the 4850s are so good is that in CF they're still cheaper than the GTX280, even similarly priced to the 280 - the 4870s are nowhere near as good value. When the performance needed really matters, where two 4850s won't do, two 4870s won't do either, and it's almost the same for a single card. Going with 4870s, especially in crossfire, is more for 3dmark bragging rights than for useful gains, especially in Crysis, which is doubly disappointing but not unexpected.
Still, a pair of either 4800 series cards liquidises a GTX280 in several cases - I know what I'm going to buy!



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25. June 2008 @ 09:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah but think of it this way, it will be quite easy to overclock the 4850 to 4870 speeds especially when versions with better coolers and GDDR5 come about.

You know I think I may build myself a computer again lol. Maybe when I get out of this road trip and the GDDR5 cards come out.
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25. June 2008 @ 09:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
It's just such a shame the idle power consumption of the 4850 is so dreadfully poor, it uses as much power at idle as most cards do under full load - I would have thought AMD would have sorted out their energy efficiency by now.



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25. June 2008 @ 09:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Still way batter than the new Nvidia cards. I think if you wait a bit they might maybe release a fix for it? Or is the idle power consumption always going to be the same?
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25. June 2008 @ 09:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well no, the GTX280 uses over ten watts less than the HD4850 at idle. As for a fix, I don't know, because I hate powerplay, so technically I suppose I don't want them to make it any better.



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25. June 2008 @ 09:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i dunno, im sure the extra memory bandwidth of the 4870 will flourish in very high res, esp with 1GB.

and now the memory in the 4870x2 will be shared, a FULL 1GB can be used for that aswell, where as 512 4870s crossfired only use 512 mb memory



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