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gl2814h
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7. May 2010 @ 18:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by DeadBluray:
Originally posted by gl2814h:
I have a 40gb Model CECHH01 it will not read any disc. I have tried dvd's, cd's and blu-ray. It spins the disc but never give any sign that it will play. I disassembled the ps3 and the laser deck has kem-400aca. I cannot seem to find this part anywhere. Is there another compatible? Any help or suggestions would be great. Thanks.
i wouldn't worry about that P/N on the laser deck, does it have a single or dual laser lens ?

a single lens laser and deck is P/N KEM 400AAA, or laser on its own KES 400AAA

a dual lens laser and deck is P/N KEM 410ACA, or laser on its own KES 410ACA

the reason i ask which laser you have is, that model 40gb should have a dual lens laser fitted, as they changed over at the end of the CECHG0# run of PS3s
On the laser it has kes 400a. It's on a sticker under the ribbon cable that connects the laser deck to the control board. Or is this the wrong place?

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DeadBluray
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8. May 2010 @ 08:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by gl2814h:
Originally posted by DeadBluray:
Originally posted by gl2814h:
I have a 40gb Model CECHH01 it will not read any disc. I have tried dvd's, cd's and blu-ray. It spins the disc but never give any sign that it will play. I disassembled the ps3 and the laser deck has kem-400aca. I cannot seem to find this part anywhere. Is there another compatible? Any help or suggestions would be great. Thanks.
i wouldn't worry about that P/N on the laser deck, does it have a single or dual laser lens ?

a single lens laser and deck is P/N KEM 400AAA, or laser on its own KES 400AAA

a dual lens laser and deck is P/N KEM 410ACA, or laser on its own KES 410ACA

the reason i ask which laser you have is, that model 40gb should have a dual lens laser fitted, as they changed over at the end of the CECHG0# run of PS3s
On the laser it has kes 400a. It's on a sticker under the ribbon cable that connects the laser deck to the control board. Or is this the wrong place?
as i said, don't worry about anything that is pressed or printed on the laser or drive, the only thing you need to know is whether it is a single or dual lens laser, and from what you've said, you have a single lens laser
gl2814h
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8. May 2010 @ 13:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by DeadBluray:
Originally posted by gl2814h:
Originally posted by DeadBluray:
Originally posted by gl2814h:
I have a 40gb Model CECHH01 it will not read any disc. I have tried dvd's, cd's and blu-ray. It spins the disc but never give any sign that it will play. I disassembled the ps3 and the laser deck has kem-400aca. I cannot seem to find this part anywhere. Is there another compatible? Any help or suggestions would be great. Thanks.
i wouldn't worry about that P/N on the laser deck, does it have a single or dual laser lens ?

a single lens laser and deck is P/N KEM 400AAA, or laser on its own KES 400AAA

a dual lens laser and deck is P/N KEM 410ACA, or laser on its own KES 410ACA

the reason i ask which laser you have is, that model 40gb should have a dual lens laser fitted, as they changed over at the end of the CECHG0# run of PS3s
On the laser it has kes 400a. It's on a sticker under the ribbon cable that connects the laser deck to the control board. Or is this the wrong place?
as i said, don't worry about anything that is pressed or printed on the laser or drive, the only thing you need to know is whether it is a single or dual lens laser, and from what you've said, you have a single lens laser
So I need "P/N KEM 400AAA, laser KES 400AAA" ?

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DeadBluray
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8. May 2010 @ 13:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by gl2814h:
Originally posted by DeadBluray:
Originally posted by gl2814h:
Originally posted by DeadBluray:
Originally posted by gl2814h:
I have a 40gb Model CECHH01 it will not read any disc. I have tried dvd's, cd's and blu-ray. It spins the disc but never give any sign that it will play. I disassembled the ps3 and the laser deck has kem-400aca. I cannot seem to find this part anywhere. Is there another compatible? Any help or suggestions would be great. Thanks.
i wouldn't worry about that P/N on the laser deck, does it have a single or dual laser lens ?

a single lens laser and deck is P/N KEM 400AAA, or laser on its own KES 400AAA

a dual lens laser and deck is P/N KEM 410ACA, or laser on its own KES 410ACA

the reason i ask which laser you have is, that model 40gb should have a dual lens laser fitted, as they changed over at the end of the CECHG0# run of PS3s
On the laser it has kes 400a. It's on a sticker under the ribbon cable that connects the laser deck to the control board. Or is this the wrong place?
as i said, don't worry about anything that is pressed or printed on the laser or drive, the only thing you need to know is whether it is a single or dual lens laser, and from what you've said, you have a single lens laser
So I need "P/N KEM 400AAA, laser KES 400AAA" ?
yes, either you buy and fit the complete laser/drive unit, P/N KEM 400AAA,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SONY-PS3-LASER-KEM...=item2c54550900

or just buy and fit the laser assembly, P/N KES 400AAA, http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Playstation-3-PS3-...=item519230a67d
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13. May 2010 @ 18:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a ps3 model CHECHL01 it looks to be dual to me so i would need KEM 410ACA?
Edwonton
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20. May 2010 @ 02:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I actually made quite a discovery, and I'm not sure if it will solve everyone elses problem, but it is worth a try.

If you have tried absolutely everything to try to make your BD Drive work, run through this check list first.

1. Replace the ribbon cable that connects the drive to the motherboard.
2. If that doesn't work, replace the laser lens for your BD drive.
3. If that STILL DOESN'T WORK, as it appears with many others, then try heating your PS3. I left my PS3 on overnight because I fell asleep, and I woke up and my Blu ray games worked. Now, after going through a series of tests, I noticed that the PS3 only read Blu-ray games when the power unit (the metal box thing next to the drive) is hot. When it is cooled, and you try playing a game, it doesn't work, but after leaving it on for a bit until it gets hot, turning it off, then turning it back on, it works. See if you guys can make it work this way. If it does, then we might have isolated the problem. It could be the heatsink.
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12. June 2010 @ 20:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
i'm having trouble with my blu-ray drive also. i have a CECHL01 PS3, the 80gb without backwards compatibility. the PS3 has all original parts and the blu-ray drive won't read discs. i put in any kind of disc and nothing happens, no loading icon or anything. the blue light in the front of the PS3 lights up when there is a disc inside. the laser is a dual lens KEM-410ACA. i bought a laser with deck on ebay which is supposed to be working with a new lens and it didn't fix the problem. the drive takes and ejects disks, it doesn't spin them, and there is no lights coming out of the laser. the only thing it does is moves the laser up and down and that's about it. i've been reading many posts on different forums and i can't find a solution. i need help guys! thanks
pmrs88
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13. June 2010 @ 04:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I can only assume that since you've bought a new lazer deck that's supposed to be working that you simply haven't installed it right. Watch some How to videos and make sure you put everything where it was supposed to go. I remember when I fixed mine, I put the new deck in but I forgot to put the small white spindle back on top and so i thought it hadn't worked until I realised my mistake.

Also, is the new lazer deck that you bought the exact same model as the original? if not then it may not work.
MCoolU
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13. June 2010 @ 17:11 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by pmrs88:
I can only assume that since you've bought a new lazer deck that's supposed to be working that you simply haven't installed it right. Watch some How to videos and make sure you put everything where it was supposed to go. I remember when I fixed mine, I put the new deck in but I forgot to put the small white spindle back on top and so i thought it hadn't worked until I realized my mistake.

Also, is the new laser deck that you bought the exact same model as the original? if not then it may not work.
yeah, i installed it correctly. its only 4 screws for the deck and it is the same model laser. everything is in place, also that white magnet for the spindle. maybe i just got a faulty laser. its the 2nd 1 i get. well the 1st 1 was a whole drive and the seller said it was working. i returned it because i thought it was the laser, but now i have the same problem again. Maybe 2 faulty lasers from ebay?
DoneThisTwice
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30. June 2010 @ 01:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So, I have the 60gig. I went about 2 years without my disk reader and just played media and downloaded stuff from PSN. About a week ago I received and installed (properly, I triple checked with different videos all for the same model) a new blu-ray drive. It worked, I ran all disc types, etc. I tried the "option 3 fix" before this just to make sure getting a new drive wasn't necessary as well as cleaning my original. About a week after install and the drive working, I was in the middle of a Blu-Ray and it crapped out again. Same error as I had before which was the loading icon going on forever. Is there anything else I can do when I get my replacement drive from the guy I purchased it from to help prevent this from happening a 3rd time? I plan to reformat and update and all before I reinstall. Should I put on an old firmware and negate myself the chance to play anything online? Not sure what you guy's may recommend. Any help at all would be awesome.
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30. June 2010 @ 16:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Question: to those of you who have sent your PS3's to Sony, how many of you received your original console back repaired? I really don't want a refurb, so I am on the fence as to whether or not I should send it out to them. When I call I'd like to specific I'd prefer my console back or none at all, but considering it will cost about $200 ($150 +tax and shipping) if I can't get my own console back I'd like to just put that towards a new one.

My PS3 stopped playing discs this past weekend (see my other thread). It's a 60GB and well out of warranty. Anyone confirm/deny what some folks have said in this thread that unless you YLOD you generally get your console back?

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DeltaIceman
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11. July 2010 @ 13:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey I was wondering if anyone had some tips for me. I have a problem with my 80 gb ps3. The system stopped playing discs one night. So I ordered the correct replacement laser and went through the same steps as others but after the replacement my system can still only read cd's. The system does not recognize blu-rays and regular dvd's. But like I said before it can still read cd's and ps1 games.
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12. July 2010 @ 07:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey everyone, I've been reading through this thread and found some great info!
I'm looking at a mate's ps3 which doesn't read dvds, games and music cds. I've been able to establish:

- Motor doesn't spin discs at all.

- No light is emitted from the laser (or it's incredibly dim... I tested it with the metal cover off the drive in a very dark room, nothing.)

- When a disc is inserted, the loading bubble appears in the top right corner and stays there.

After reading the first dozen or so pages, I'm thinking this is a faulty laser. Before I go ahead and buy one though, does anyone have any other ideas? Any way to test the drive motor is working? I think that'd be the last thing to fail... But if anyone has any other tests to diagnose this thing that'd be great :)
Michelangelo
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19. July 2010 @ 18:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I have a UK CECHK03 80GB ps3 with dual lens drive. I have replaced the laser and it reads games and bluray movies no problem when I manually place the disc. When I press eject button it will either start spinning the disc and loading game/movie or stop spinning so I can remove it, but the tray lifting motor won't work whatever I do. I even got another drive and I have the same problem. What's interesting is that there is no bga chip on my drive control board. I checked on ebay some control boards and I have nothing where in those pics bga chip is installed. Rev is BMD-011.
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22. July 2010 @ 14:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
still no answer to my problem. maybe anyone can help me. mine sometimes work (bluray disk spins). but if i turn off the ps3 doesn't work anymore. I did everything posible(whitout changing components) cleaning, formating and system reset. awaiting solutions. forgot to say: i have ps3 60 Gb, ps 2 disks works, all of them
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23. July 2010 @ 02:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by DXDC8008:
I think your best bet is taking it to a local electronics shop and let them fix it.
Try these guys out www.repaircentral.com.au

http://www.repaircentral.com.au/console-...ense-laser.html

The Playstation 3 Laser is responsible for reading the discs that you insert into the console. If this component fails to operate then game play and other functions involving the use of the disc drive will be affected. If this problem occurs then you require a Playstation 3 laser replacement. At Repair Central we offer you a cheap and reliable service to repair this problem.

Some common Symptoms & Problems you may experience which may suggest you require a New PS3 410 laser replacement

The following experiences may suggest a fail / burnt out laser


* Games fail to load

* Game loading time is significantly slower

* Gameplay is effected by pixelation

* DVD media loads fine , Bluray Movie or Game fails to bootup

* Game inserted but the Loading icon on the PS3 Screen "top right hand corner" is not spinning.
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25. July 2010 @ 20:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does anybody in the world know where the potentiometer is on the PS3 lasers? Please help asap! Call or email me please!!! blstaley13@yahoo.com 405-549-7750 cell#.
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18. August 2010 @ 11:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by blstaley:
Does anybody in the world know where the potentiometer is on the PS3 lasers? Please help asap! Call or email me please!!! blstaley13@yahoo.com 405-549-7750 cell#.
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18. August 2010 @ 17:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi there, I have a 80GB CECHL04
Ive opend the bluray drive and I can see its a dual laser,
So what ive seen:

When i insert the game it spins about a 1/4 and is taken in.
But then it doesnt spin.
I can see the laser moving slightly, and it makes a noise,
But game stil doesnt spin, also thers no light on the laser,

So this means I need a new laser right?
Would i need just laser or laser and deck?

Any help would be appreciated thanks!
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20. August 2010 @ 06:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, I'm the one, who is having problems with Blu-Ray too. I'll brief what I have.

1. PS3 60GB PAL
2. Disks spin, laser come up
3. No "bubbles", not read anything
4. Demos and PlayStation Home neither work.

As I've read it could be problem with controller board or nand memory, but I don't have opportunity and finances to buy new one. So, I'm hoping for two solutions: 1. Someone could find wonderful and free method to fix it (unlikely). 2. Due to new hax of PS3, I hope it will work without BD drive.

Cherrs, ExMachina from Russia


P.S. I wonder what could be a problem here. Disc loads and spin so it's not IC chip. I checked cabels and inputs - they are OK. But I see no buble or some kind of activity after loading. And I also don't see somthing fired or cracked. What problem It could be?

P.S.S. I've heard, that If the controller board is faulty I couldn't even do updates, I'll get an Error. So, I recently did an Update, and I got errors, but after 3 or 4 times, I reconnected BD-rom, and Update installed!! I Also broke fixer on the motherboard, that keeps bd ribbon. Anyway, I'll try when I'll get time, to play with the ribbon, and I'll see If the demos or discs will work.

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LilTimmy
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4. September 2010 @ 14:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
my situation:

i started getting the typical disk read errors or just straight up unable to read disks. it started off with just ps3/blu ray disks, but slowly moved to ps2, dvds, ps1, audio cds. so my laser lens was going downhill. i bought a replacement. there definitely was something wrong with the original lens, because now i can play ps3 games, ps2 games, and ps1 games (and audio cds).

BUT for whatever reason i cannot play blu ray movies (weird huh?) and dvd movies. but again, my ps3 games (which are blu ray) and ps2 games (which are dvd) work fine. from time to time, i experience slowdown (slight) and freezing/long loading in a ps3 game. i don't know if im just being paranoid or had slight problems at those times. because it doesn't really happen that much besides a few situations. so it might be coincidental.

i can definitely play the HDD games and do everything that i normally can do on my ps3. just cant watch dvds or blu ray movies. after much research i have pinned it down to the following:

1. something is wrong with my controller card
2. something is wrong with my laser lens again
3. something unknown is wrong with my ps3

1a: the IC card is defective (maybe, since i believe it controls the motor. but why would ps3/ps2 games work but NOT dvds/bd movies? maybe they spin at different speeds?)
1b: the NAND chip is defective (unlikely since i heard it stores firmware, and i wouldnt even be able to play hdd games at all)

2a: don't know too much about lasers, but is it possible that my laser is too weak or defective enough that it'll play ps3/ps2/ps1 games. but not dvds or blu ray movies? i would imagine the laser lens is a "all or nothing" type of machinery. but again i dont know
2b: it might be dirty enough that it doesnt read it properly

another interesting to add. when i do try to insert a dvd or blu ray movie, it sounds like it tries to spin. but then stops abruptly. i have the blue light present. but then i cannot eject the disk. i have to turn off the system and start it up by initially pressing the eject button. then the disk will pop out normally. anyone have any ideas?

i am updated to the most recent firmware. don't know if corrupted firmware will do anything to the ps3. but i tried putting the most recent firmware (which i already have on my ps3) to a thumbdrive. and then doing an update through a storage device off the ps3 xmb. it doesnt recognize it. is that because i already have the most recent one? or should it recognize data irregardless and i have a deeper problem? im kinda hoping sony releases another firmware update so that i can cross this possibility off my list.

i dont expect any solutions. i just would like the community's thoughts and brainstorming. as there is the possibility that a light bulb might go off with other people's personal similar experiences.

thanks for your time! fingers crossed!
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5. September 2010 @ 23:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Has anyone ever found a way to re-flash the NAND chip ?

I supposed the Decryption Chip is where the "Paring" needs to take place.

Has anyone tried an external USB Blu Ray drive ?
Does that work for games ?

How about connecting the PS3 BD to an external usb enclosure ?

Thanks all,
Derek
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6. September 2010 @ 05:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Seriously guys, just bite the bullet and buy a new lazer deck. Nine out of ten times this will solve the problem. Don't ask me why, it just does. And its a lot cheaper than sending it away to get repaired if your warranty has run out. Make sure you get the right model lazer though.
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dalexop
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6. September 2010 @ 15:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hey there pmrs,

I haven't found evidence that you can indeed do that.
In fact, I removed a BD from an 80 GB and put it in the 40 GB machine.
Everything works fine other than the fact that the XMB does not acknowledge the drive at all.
I have not tried a 40 GB Playstation BD as a test though.
The threads though state that this doesn not work either.

Some folks suggest removing the NAND, but that's an ugly procedure too.
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