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Ritek +R DL is CRAP!!
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bratcher
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15. September 2006 @ 09:11 |
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I've burned & tested 3 so far. They are as bad quality wise as CMC single layer discs are. From now on all of my DL burns wuill be Verbs as they test as good (in quality) as single layrt TY's...
The single layer 16x Ritek is good with single layer MIT Sony's a little better. Strange that the Ritek DL's are so bad.
My advice? Stay away from the double layer Ritek discs!! The ones I burned were data discs on a Plextor 716-A with at 2.4x then tested with Plextools Professional XL software. Tried the latest 1.1.0 firmware with the DL Riteks & the results turned out awful. 2 discs wouldn't finish the burn so I flashed back to the 1.08 I was using before. 3rd disc (after the flashback) finished the burn but tested very poorly.
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15. September 2006 @ 11:02 |
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hi :)
i use nothing else except Ritek-DO1-OO1 Dual layer
have burned 32 to date with out any issues.
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15. September 2006 @ 12:08 |
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I burned two boxes - 30 Ritek D01 - without a problem and all play back flawlessly, so it's probably your drive, not the media. You might need a firmware update, or maybe your drive just doesn't like this media. That happens with DVD recording - most drives have one or a few kind of media they don't like.
However, as Verbatim is typically cheaper than the Ritek if you know where to shop, I see no reason not to buy Verbatim these days.
-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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15. September 2006 @ 17:17 |
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agreed man, verbatim is driving prices down. there are good deals on verb DL all over the place. so yeah no reason to buy reteck becasue its 'cheaper'. but it is cheaper in quailty
verbs DL - average price now: $30 for 20
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16. September 2006 @ 12:08 |
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ritek sucks
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16. September 2006 @ 12:10 |
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@Skitzy - that sig has to change, cheers in advance (plus it's too big)
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16. September 2006 @ 12:24 |
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is that better?
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16. September 2006 @ 13:04 |
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Skitzy
i take it your just trying to boost your post count
another thread bites the dust
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16. September 2006 @ 17:02 |
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I've used Memorex branded Ritek DVD+R DLs (Ritek-D01-001) and I've had no problems what so ever.
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bratcher
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16. September 2006 @ 23:55 |
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The 16x Riteks (single layer) seem to test OK for now. Might be a different story later on down the road (like the 8x G05 goes bad) I'll have to see. Interesting the 4x G03 Ritek was good stable stuff.
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17. September 2006 @ 21:22 |
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actually, i had a feeling gurnard would jump in on this one~ :) i am on his side here...i've also had a LOT of success with RitekD01 DL media, mine were the Ridata branded/made Riteks...
i think success really depends on the DRIVE used to burn Ritek media (and taken into consideration the firmware being used as well as a possible "bad batch" of DLs- from 1st hand experience, i've sent back 2 batches of Ritek DLs and 1 batch of Verbatim DLs that were defective) :)
a "bad batch" of DLs is more than possible, even with the Verbatims that people regard so highly (i think the Verb DLs are the BEST at this point and most consistent w/ quality, but that does not make the RitekD01s "CRAP" as you put it) :)
also, as true with EVERY manufacturer out there, "bad batches" of media WILL occur from time to time, some manufacturers more often than others...hehe...nobody makes PERFECT MEDIA 100% of the time. period.
when it comes to DLs, Ritek gets a very bad name and is usually bashed because it IS NOT compatible with a few drives/manufacturers (namely Benq drives as i found out firsthand on my 1640s+1650s) :) BUT, my Liteon/Sony (rebadged Liteon)/Pioneer/NEC drives will burn the RitekD01s just fine with NO problems at all~ :)
i don't own a Plextor drive, so i can't say from experience, but i'm going to assume the firmware for the Plextors are very much in the same category as the Benq firmwares being they are NOT fully compatible with the RitekD01 coding/write strategies~ that's where the issues occur and you end up with a very expensive "coaster"
i know a lot of other media forums condemn RitekD01s as well, all the power to them; but i WILL defend RitekD01s on MY specific drives/firmwares because i've used 150+ with less than 5% "coaster" rate; that was due to the firmware at the time not being "up to par" to properly handle these DLs :)
while i will agree and conceed that the Verbatim DVD+R DLs are "the best" at this point in time (as in my sig. MKM001 and now the faster rated MKM003); being "2nd best" or "not first" is far from making RitekD01s "CRAP" :) that's just my take on things, everyone has the right to their own OPINIONs on media, i will not argue there~ :)
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Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
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18. September 2006 @ 08:33 |
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hi DOC :)
as you know i've used Ritek pretty much all my burning life with none of the problems that a bunch of ppl have had.
for those newer members that don't know, i believe that my success is mainly due to the fact that i use only their own brand labels
Ritek...Ridata and Traxdata.
by using these you are guaranteed only the top grade media. also i never use printable, and always mark them with a sharpie
i've been through the times when their media took quite a bashing especially the G05, even during that time i never had a problem
Ritek being the largest manufactuer of media invariably sell media to a high number of retailers, but shot themselves in the foot by supplying "B" grade media to a lot of them. like all large companies they also subcontract out manufacter of media
as an example
single Datawrite D/L in a jewel case says Datawrite on the insert and on the inside in the bottom left corner in small writing it states "manufactured by Ritek Taiwan"...yet on the disc itself around the inner hub it states manufactured by "Datasafe media ltd"
i DON'T know if this is one of those cases or if Datasafe is a part of Ritek corp, but i can assure you i for one would not buy them.
one thing is for sure. DO NOT buy Ritek under the Arita brand name
@ DOC :)
have'nt tried those TY's yet, still finishing off those Verb's (should'nt have bought so many as a try out) habit of buying several hundred at a time, you know what i mean LOL
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18. September 2006 @ 13:29 |
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@gurnard
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@ DOC :)
have'nt tried those TY's yet, still finishing off those Verb's (should'nt have bought so many as a try out) habit of buying several hundred at a time, you know what i mean LOL
yes i do, all too well in fact~ LOL :) i've reduced my excessive media buying habits as of late, but once u get to the TYs, i'm sure you will be impressed/pleased with the outcome~ :) speaking of B-grade media, yes, Arita is a brand i will certainly NEVER purchase or trust...Ritek has seen better times in the past and it was not too long ago EVERYONE was bashing the 8x DVD-R G05s, i think you and i were among the few who have had VERY good success with them, whether or not WE got "good batches" or what, they worked well for us. :) it's a shame the quality went down and more members experienced some serious issues across the board...have a good one my friend~
docTY
Recommended Media:
Taiyo Yuden 4x dvd-r TYGO1/ 8x dvd-r TYGO2/ 8x dvd+r YUDEN000T02/ 16x dvd+r YUDEN000T03
Verbatim 8x dvd+r MCC003
Verbatim dvd+r DL (MKM001)= flawless no compression backups
"Do Yourself A Favor, Use The Good Stuff
TY & Verbs 4 Life~ :)" ~docTY~
"Its better to be quiet and appear stupid, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I am always prepared to recognize that there can be two points of view - mine and one that is probably wrong - John Gorton
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bratcher
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18. September 2006 @ 15:29 |
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I took my Ritek +R DL's back to Microcenter & got the requested credit for the Verbs )+R DL) that I took home. Will never buy Ritek again!!
The G03 & G04 discs seem to hold up fairly good but all of the G05's tested so far are developing trouble with readability errors. I'll salvage what I can to my hard drive (a disc at a time) then burn each on TY which in my opinion is the best media you can get. They were burned on a Sony (unknown drive brand) an LG plus my Plextor. Plan to do the same with the 16x Ritek media I have. Up to the HD then down to a TY disc. Will test some of those 16x Riteks 6 to 8 months down the road & maybe a year later too but my days of buying Ritek are over. I may toss 175 of the 16x D01's in the trash unrecorded. Either that or burn another copy of the same disc on TY media as a backup.
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18. September 2006 @ 16:21 |
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Well if you have that many D01's, sell them on eBay or make backups to Verbatim DLs, keeping ther Verbs as backups. That's a lot of money and I'd hate to see you throw it away. Ritek is generally garbage though, and I can attest that the G05 don't even make nice coasters let alone functional DVDs.
-Do you believe you own your computer and shouldn't be told what you can run and do? Then say *NO* to Microsoft Vista!
-Since half the questions here involve media problems, here ya go: Only use Verbatim or Taiyo-Yuden discs (get your TYs from Rima.com, not Supermediastore or meritline). Forget the rest, no matter what "brand" they sell under. Always burn at 4x speed regardless of the speed rating of this discs or your drive. If you have burn problems with these then you have to update your drive's firmware. For double-layer discs, only use Verbatim DVD+R DL and burn them at 2.4x speed.
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18. September 2006 @ 17:39 |
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why would I care about a post count? I just wanted to say Ritek sucks since they want to put radio transmitters in there disc.. seeing that a large portion of there sales is blank media... that kinda goes against the grain doesn't it? but yes, as far as there actual disc go... your right.. they are pretty good disc... but I got the news about the transmitters the other day and couldn't help a good bashing.. and please.. don't ever say I care about a fu**ing post count ever again.. thats pretty retarded... If I cared about a post count don't you think I would be here more than 3-4 times a month??? Please... fill me in... why would someone care about a post count? Is there a prize for posting alot? because I must be in the dark.
sorry if my chattiness offends you gonad.. or gonard or whatever your name is
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18. September 2006 @ 19:42 |
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Skitzy, skitsoid, skittish or whatever, use copy & paste to put a person's nic in a your post. if can't use a person's nic properly than don't post because if you don't post a person's nic properly we'll start calling you different nic's starting with a "s" which won't be nice to you. do you understand!!!
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JoeRyan
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19. September 2006 @ 07:11 |
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Verbatim has the jump on everyone as far as DL discs go. They invented the concept--and spent a year figuring how to get rid of the tiny bubbles that occurred between layers. Ritek is producing as many DL discs as Verbatim or probably more, and they are catching up in experience. There is an amazing improvement in DL writing with newer drives compared to older drives, and this ought to continue in time. A big change coming is the move to less expensive inverse stack method of manufacturing from the photopolymer method. This will reduce costs and improve yields, but it may mean another round of incompatibility until drive manufacturers tune their drives for both IS and 2P DL discs. Drives available 6 months from now should be able to handle both.
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bratcher
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19. September 2006 @ 11:09 |
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I'll copy the burned D01s to the HD then burn the data to a TY disc. Then I'll either throw away the burned D01's & sell the rest on Ebay or I'll keep the burned D01's (to test a few in 6 months then a year) to see if they last as the G03 & G04 discs did. Either way I'm not buying or burning any more Ritek DVD's. The remaining 75 or so CDR's I'll burn as audiodiscs as the ones a year old still test well, Will I buy any more Ritek CDR's after that? Maybe but I still prefer TY media. The problem is TY only has silver shiny inkjet printable (in the CDR format) & Ritek has the silver/matte finish that I prefer. I don't need white inkjet printable although I did use it once in a 15 DVD sample pack I got from a company that had a coupon in my Plextor box. Silver/matte is preferred in both formats (by me) although the white inkjet looks nice too.
Well to end this post it's TY for single layer & Verb for double later forever. They've sold me!!
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18. October 2006 @ 09:40 |
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I'm just a rookie but have some possible data to add re: Ritek +DL disks. I bought a spindle of 25 of them from New Egg last summer and have been using them with very mixed success. From reading various AD posts I decided I had a HW problem so I sold my LG writer on Ebay and bought a new BenQ 1655. I burns just great - as the posts said it would - but it came with QScan software which I used for the first time over the weekend. It showed that 10 of the 12 remaining 2.4x DL disks on the spindle were not suitable for burning at 2.4x. The first of the two which the SW said were good burned perfectly. Of course it's been over 30 days, so NE offers no warranty support. One of the BenQ sw tools allows changing speeds to compensate for poor disk quality, so I will try that before pitching my remaining Riteks. I have bought a spindle of Fuji DL disks and will report their success or failure as I have results to share.
As always, my thanks to all of you posting at AD for your help.
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VJbob
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30. October 2006 @ 15:11 |
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can anybody tell me how to 'test' the discs after I burn DL using Nero 6.6? I read that someone else burns with Nero 7 but it fails 'tests' so he doesn't use them (Ritek DVD+R DL) anymore. I thought just popping it in a DVD player and watching playback was a test but apparently there is a software test?
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bratcher
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30. October 2006 @ 15:36 |
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You can check any disc with Nero CD Speed that comes with Nero Burning Rom.
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30. October 2006 @ 17:36 |
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also, apparently Nero 6.x doesn't handle the layer break and i don't believe Nero 7.x is any better either; people usually use software such as imgburn (free) for burning dual layer
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30. October 2006 @ 19:52 |
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I've had good luck with the Ritek DL disks using DVDDecrypter and IMGBurn with AnyDVD running in the background. IMGBurn seems to handle the layer split with ease. I've been burning them with a Sony (Lite-on) 800A drive. Personally, I've always had good luck with Ritek since I started burning years ago, and the disks still play and scan well. Hope this helps.
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31. October 2006 @ 08:08 |
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The Ritek are OK and maybe not as good as Verbatim. I personally believe Ritek is losing the DL war in term of technical and pricing.
Recently I had some Aone bought fm BP, and the quality seems to be good given the pricing.
Recommend to try, but dont think it the same quality as Verb, but much cheaper.
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