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5. July 2008 @ 11:05 |
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T3? Are you sure? T3 is pretty high bandwidth...
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5. July 2008 @ 11:14 |
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sammorris,
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T3? Are you sure? T3 is pretty high bandwidth...
I'm sorry, I meant 3Mbps! 2961Kbps to be exact which is just a hair (39 kbps) slower than twice the speed of a T1 line! Sorry about that! My wireless is the same speed too (108 Super G)!
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5. July 2008 @ 11:26 |
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Yeah makes sense. T3 is absurdly fast. Back at my parents house I have a sync rate of 5472 down, 544 up. Latency to local websites is around 6ms. In York however, the sync rate is about 1500/700, and the ping to a local server will be around 20 - that's interleaving for you...
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5. July 2008 @ 11:38 |
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I'll try that speed checker when I get home Russ, thanks for the link. I've often wondered if there is something wrong between my house and the box because the phone does have some static from time to time especially after a good rain. The onsite reps usually hook up a tester right at the PC, and of course all is well when they are there, and call it a day.
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5. July 2008 @ 11:46 |
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To me 45bucks is 45bucks. That's quite a savings with a little more bang for your needs
Corsair TX 650W ATX12V Power Supply - CMPSU-650TX
List Price: $121.45
Our Price: $94.99
Price After Rebate(s): $74.99
Shipping: FREE
Buy.com Total Price: $74.99
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-tx-650w-.../206178324.html
I know for a fact with a little patients U can tuck your none used wires in a neat and orderly fashion up around your PSU or even some times I've seen behind the MOBO, with removable tray
I can't speak for any one else hear, but for me with past expediences, AMPs are probably more important to me over Watts. Of course I know you need higher WATTs for higher AMPs. Higher AMPs help protect in case of Higher Draws or Strains by other Components at times
You can get your 520 here at one helluva of a savings also
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-520w-sli.../203270716.html
Buy.com Total Price: $84.99
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5. July 2008 @ 12:04 |
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icemen: You could have a faulty motherboard then. How old is the PC, is any of it still under warranty?
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5. July 2008 @ 12:13 |
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ok a quick update guys (posting from a different PC)
the vendor send the ASUS Striker II Formula instead of the ASUS RAMPAGE. Problems with the PC8500/1066 memory won't run stable (two different 4 gig sets didn't work). tryed the PC6400/800 and it flys. getting the optical drives,power supply and videocard in today should have it back early next week!! the Q9450 so far is working out very well! see you all soon with the new system
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5. July 2008 @ 12:15 |
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That's a disastrous substitution to make - I hope you make a pain of yourself and get the proper board!
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5. July 2008 @ 12:47 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
icemen: You could have a faulty motherboard then. How old is the PC, is any of it still under warranty?
it's about four year old, nah it's got no warranty, is it nackerd then?
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5. July 2008 @ 12:57 |
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it's about four year old, nah it's got no warranty, is it nackerd then?
Not necessarily but you probably have a hardware failure somewhere, probably as a result of overheating. To find the cause you could use another rig to test your original graphics card, then your memory, processor and motherboard. It is probably one of those although I somewhat doubt it's your board since it's still sending power to the fans. If you're not that experienced with working inside your rig then you might want to look for someone who is or take to a service location and have it diagnosed, tut that costs money.
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5. July 2008 @ 12:59 |
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sam, the powerconsumption
and once again just becuase a system draws 300W does nto mean you just go get any 400W PSU. no. the GPU/CPU both draw from the 12V lines, where as the 5 and 3 are for the ODDs HDDs etc. most of the cheap PSUs have ALOT of power coming from those 3 and 5 rails, and not much from the 12V rail. just saying my system draws X lets get X + 100W for cover and upgradeability doesnt work.
next, i dont know who said your mad for xfireing 3870s ont he HX520, as the HX520 can take a heavily OCed Qcore and SLI 8800GTXs. thats no problem for it.
now as i write that, it mayseem i am two faced (or better word choice) but i want a PSU which has 4 8pin PCIE connectors so i dont need to get convertors, and i know the TT toughtpower 750W does, and its modular, but this is a very quiet PSU, brilliantly built, has an un parralleled efficieny and can help with whole case cooling with the fan attachment.
and (remember i am saying this all from my point, trying to justify MY pending purchase to you) i wont just be taking a Q6600 to 3 GHz, i will be getting an x48, and tryign to clock the nuts off it. i also plan to dabble in Watercooling for nahlem. i am not saying for eveyone to go out and splash more cash on a PSU then a CPU, but I will seeing as I will keep for a godo 3-5 years.
i have in my head, a rough idea of te next couple of years what i want to do with my rig. yes components are hard to predict, but im pretty sure seing as there wont be a 32nm proccess till 2010 power will increace with the new amd 10.5k chips and intel chips.
and Sophocles my respect for you had grown immensly. thank you for gracing us with your presence (this is no joke).
oh and get used to me and sam havign these debates, it happens quite often hehe, how can i go a month on AD w.o have one with sam, or watching mort have one with sam :P HAHA
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5. July 2008 @ 13:04 |
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Originally posted by Sophocles:
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it's about four year old, nah it's got no warranty, is it nackerd then?
Not necessarily but you probably have a hardware failure somewhere, probably as a result of overheating. To find the cause you could use another rig to test your original graphics card, then your memory, processor and motherboard. It is probably one of those although I somewhat doubt it's your board since it's still sending power to the fans. If you're not that experienced with working inside your rig then you might want to look for someone who is or take to a service location and have it diagnosed, tut that costs money.
i think one of my little ones offed it from the mains when it was shutting down & then this happened
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5. July 2008 @ 13:06 |
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ZoSo,
did you order the mobo or did they? if they did, I would insist they get the one you requested. so it will take a few more days. I would be a very unhappy camper. I'm afraid you're gonna run into problems when you go to OC. the problems you're having with DDR2 1066 memory should tell you something already. don't settle for something you don't want or didn't order. you wouldn't do that with anything else would you?
is the builder aware that sometimes you need to initially boot with one stick of memory and then add the other stick/s after innitial boot up (especially with large modules or if usiing all 4 slots).
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5. July 2008 @ 13:07 |
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An interesting result. The 250W TDP of the GTX280 is obviously bull - perhaps there's hope for the card yet.
The toughpower doesn't actually have four 6-pins, it's only got 3. Only the Corsair TX750 and Modu82 625W of the popular PSUs here have it, so the Darkpower's a decent choice. It's better than the Enermax, if not as quiet.
All joking aside shaff, I don't want to hear mention of the recent 'debate' with Mort again. We would both like it behind us.
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5. July 2008 @ 13:22 |
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fair enough sam, ill respect your wishes.
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5. July 2008 @ 13:28 |
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WOW this moved FAST.
I am posting about the previous build that was going to use a 3870. Why not use a 8800GT instead?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500006
ZOSO, that's a terrible replacement! If you ordered a Rampage Formula, you should DAMN WELL get it. From what I have heard the Striker 2 is not a good board at all. I would either get my money back or demand they put in a Rampage Formula(great board).
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5. July 2008 @ 15:07 |
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Xevlys this psu is a good one. I posted it earlier but it may have gotten lost in the mix. ;) link to Antec NeoPower 650 It's $99 delivered, modular, and has plenty of power if you decide to use it. ;)
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5. July 2008 @ 16:37 |
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Originally posted by rick5446:
To me 45bucks is 45bucks. That's quite a savings with a little more bang for your needs
Corsair TX 650W ATX12V Power Supply - CMPSU-650TX
List Price: $121.45
Our Price: $94.99
Price After Rebate(s): $74.99
Shipping: FREE
Buy.com Total Price: $74.99
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-tx-650w-.../206178324.html
I know for a fact with a little patients U can tuck your none used wires in a neat and orderly fashion up around your PSU or even some times I've seen behind the MOBO, with removable tray
I can't speak for any one else hear, but for me with past expediences, AMPs are probably more important to me over Watts. Of course I know you need higher WATTs for higher AMPs. Higher AMPs help protect in case of Higher Draws or Strains by other Components at times
You can get your 520 here at one helluva of a savings also
http://www.buy.com/prod/corsair-520w-sli.../203270716.html
Buy.com Total Price: $84.99
Thanks for the suggestion but im tired of having annoying cables in my case >.< looks like a great PSU though but id really like the modular at this point. As far as buy.com goes, ive never used the site so i dont know its customer service standards nut i do know for sure that newegg will replace/fix anyhting that gets screwed up on a more than reasonable basis so i prefer to shop with them, havent heard anything bad about buy.com, just no experience wih them.
@ greensman
that PSU looks good too. bah why are there so many choices with this? lol... Anyway, ive been trying to keep an eye on the PSU debate going on here regarding and from what i can tell it looks like a good idea to go for more power so that i dont need to upgrade the PSU again in the future, but thr agrument is cost. So for what i see the Antec PSU has more power and doesnt cost a lot more so it would be better to get that?,,, idk i think i kinda got lost on that debate.
@abuzar1
Welll, um, i couldnt tell you why not because i dont know the differences all that well. Whats the advantage of the 8800GT over the HD 3870 or vice versa? I forgot how complicated all this can get lol...
Well, great suggestions all around hope to hear back soon. I think i needa set my self on a build soon otherwise ill just keep changing things and never actually buy it... but at the same time I want to be sure and buy some decent parts so i like where this is going :D will check back soon.
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5. July 2008 @ 16:47 |
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The 8800GT is just faster. It's just a better card. They say image quality is a bit better on ATI, but I never noticed the difference, and I went from a 3850 to a 8800GT.
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5. July 2008 @ 17:00 |
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Xevlys,
I have delt with buy.com many times. great retailer plus you can't beat their prices on a lot of items. I would seriously consider this PSU at $115 delivered you can't go wrong.
some other things to consider is the warranty, efficiency, and the MTBF. you won't find many, if any that top the corsair 620HX. do a little comparing and have a look for yourself. I have two 620HX's and won't use anything else. here's a couple of snippets from the spec sheet:
Double forward switching circuitry design offers high efficiency, up to 80% under wide load range
Ultra quiet 120mm double ball-bearing fan delivers excellent airflow at an exceptionally low noise level by varying the RPM in response to temperature.
Over Current/Voltage/Power Protection, Under Voltage Protection, and Short Circuit Protection provide maximum safety for your critical system components
105ºC rated industrial grade capacitors provide uncompromised performance and reliability, delivering 4 times the lifespan of conventional 85ºC rated capacitors.
8 Serial ATA connectors (4 on 520W).
MTBF: 100,000 Hours
The HX620W/HX520W is backed with a Limited 5-Year Warranty and Corsair?s legendary customer service.
link to specs http://www.corsairmicro.com/products/hx.aspx
GM,
the antec PSU looks pretty good too except the MTBF is only 80,000, it doesn't use as good of capacitors, and the cable assortment isn't as good/ you don't get as many. 5 cable sockets vs 7 with the 620HX. other than that, it has the same 5 year warranty, as is claims to be a little more efficient (85%) although I have read reviews on the 620HX and they say it's efficiency rating is very modest. it is actually 85-90% efficient under most load conditions.
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5. July 2008 @ 17:47 |
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if you wan ALOT of mudualr cables go to the new enermax modu82+ 625W or evnn better the Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 650W.
but IMO, the HX620 jsut cant be beaten on the performance for price vs these two PSUs.
but i do suggest people check out the reviews for the Be Quiet Dark Power Pro Series.
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5. July 2008 @ 18:04 |
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@mort
You hit at the point i was keeping in mind when i first chose the corsair, i know that they have excellent quality products, so I think im going to stick with that. You kept mentioning the 620W rather than the 520W i have listed on my build, as did a few other people. Is that because you think i should get the 620W for future upgradability or will the 520 be fine for that?
Also, can anyone else comment on getting the 8800GT over the 3870? not that i dont trust abuzar i just like lots of opinions. Any objections to either one of the cards or pros one might have over the other? By looking them over it does look like the 8800GT does have the better specs and with the image quality issue that Abuzar mentioned i dont think id notice it either. Ive used comparable radeon and nvidia cards in the past and never noticed much difference anyway.
and, since no one has made comments on the rest of the build im going to assume those choices are good :D
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5. July 2008 @ 18:07 |
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Xevlys, you should really just pick one and run with it. Everyone will chime in with what they think is best as we all have our own favorites, but in the end it's your money and your decision. We can spend your money for you all day if you want though. :)
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5. July 2008 @ 18:08 |
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The 8800GT is faster than the HD3870, but not by sufficiently much that I would pay any more for one. If it means extra spending, don't bother. The difference between the 8800GT and 3870 is 15% at best - with the HD4850 it's over 80%, and even that's only 40 dollars or so more now from some manufacturers.
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