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3. June 2008 @ 21:13 |
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Originally posted by theonejrs:
sammorris,
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Dust filter not quite potent enough then? :P
The dust filter I put on the Intake works fine, but I didn't have one on the 80mm when it was an intake. I had to scrape the crud off of the HSF fan blade. I didn't really notice how loud it was that way until the other night, when I had an AutoCad test simulation running all night. I gather that was because the top of the CPU cooler and the fan are only about 3/4" apart so as an intake it made a lot more noise blowing against the top of the cooler!
I know originally one of the drawbacks to the 80mm being an intake was excessive dirt, I just didn't realize it would be so bad! LOL!! Next time I'll leave well enough alone! LOL!!
Russ
just use tights, borrow one off your mrs.
sam, i just been thinking of it, and didnt TR technically steal that design of Tuniq?
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3. June 2008 @ 21:38 |
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Well, I now have a pair of 80s running filterless as intake fans. Let's see how they fare after a few months of usage.
Shaff: Probably. 'Share and share alike' seems to apply with regard to coolers, everyone else follows each other's trends. I was contemplating the move to an IFX when I get a Quad depending on how my temps fare.
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4. June 2008 @ 15:42 |
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do it sam, you will get the same temps as a true but with a fan at half the speed and knowing your love of noise....:D
you wont be disapointed.
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4. June 2008 @ 15:47 |
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I will, when I can afford one... :)
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5. June 2008 @ 03:39 |
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There's been a lot of discussion about case fans on the building thread. I've moved this post here to make my case for negative air pressure inside a case with a side and back air vents, and why it works so well!
When I purchase a case, I look for one that has a place you can install an 80mm or larger fan. I look for a static air vent below where you would mount a fan on the door. I have 33 cfm being drawn into the case by the front 120mm fan (stock CM). The two exhaust fans, the 80mm and the 120mm both run at 1300 rpm. This gives me about 100+ cfm being drawn out of the case. Obviously the difference between the air going in and the air going out is about 65-70 cfm! This is drawn into the case through the rear vents below the rear fan and the roughly 3.5x5" static air vent on the lower part of the door. This alone lowers the video card temp by as much as 7C. It also helps cool the NB better and helps get the heat moving out of the computer via the rear fan. The side fan doesn't do much to remove any heat, but rather helps the airflow into the static vents. It does remove some heat while encoding as you can feel it on the back of your hand, but it doesn't change the amount of cool air going in!
I've tried a number of fans over the last couple of years and I feel that with a case designed like mine with the static vents in the right place benefits greatly from running negative air pressure. Since I've always had some of the lowest temps over the last 3 builds and I've done it this way with all 3, so I think I know what I'm talking about. Everyone here has seen my temps posted from time to time so they know I'm not BS'ing about it!
If I was designing a case for good airflow I would include a static vent on the lower right front of the right side cover and make sure it isn't blocked by the MB or MB tray. This would help channel more air to the memory and the CPU cooler, adding a cross-flow element to things. The biggest thing negative case pressure does is increase the amount of cool air entering the case! All I can say is it works very well!
On another but related note, I have an invention that hopefully will eliminate a lot of cooling problems in the future. If any of you have Mechanical Drawing experience and might be interested in what may well become a very popular item, please PM me and we'll discuss it. I need this thing drawn up before someone else gets the same idea. I've made some crude prototypes and they do work, but now I've refined the design to allow better airflow so I can't do any more real testing until I can get someone to draw it up for me! I also want the drawings because I plan to apply for a patent and you need those just to get the patent! I've already protected myself by sending myself a registered letter detailing my invention, which will remian un-opened. That way If I ever had a challenge to my design I can show an exact time line for when I started working on it! Anyone interested in what could well be a very lucrative venture, shoot me a PM and I'll tell you what I have in mind and how I feel that it might benefit both of us. The drawing part won't be very difficult, it's just that I lack the skills to do the job. Any help would be greatly appreciated and possibly very rewarding!
Best Regards,
Russ
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5. June 2008 @ 12:54 |
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WATS WITH ALL THE LONG ARSE POSTS TODAY :P
so many, so much reading...tired.
just had my computing exam aswell.
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5. June 2008 @ 13:18 |
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Lol how'd it go?
And come on, you must be used to long posts from Russ by now! :)
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5. June 2008 @ 15:19 |
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crap :(
i accelled at the harware areas, but there is to much programming, i might aswell be reading chineese when it comes to that :(
and russ, you have to stop longing out ur posts, us young ppl have places to be :P
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5. June 2008 @ 15:20 |
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That's exactly what I was like with my computing exam at university - when I still did electronics.
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5. June 2008 @ 15:26 |
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and i applied for electronics haha
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5. June 2008 @ 15:27 |
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Well, I hope you do better at it than I do,
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5. June 2008 @ 16:53 |
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shaffaaf,
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and russ, you have to stop longing out ur posts, us young ppl have places to be :P
And us older ppl don't? LOL!! Remember, the older you get the less time you have for anything! LOL!! At least my posts are meaningful and usually contain useful information. How many Addicts do we have here that really earned that status? LOL!! I earned mine! You can't answer very many questions with "One Liners"! LOL!!
Respectfully,
Russ
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5. June 2008 @ 17:04 |
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sweet and short hehe. i cant belive in your old age, your hand dont cramp from all that writing :P
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5. June 2008 @ 17:53 |
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I like to think I'm in the same boat... :)
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12. June 2008 @ 13:58 |
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mmm, the ACFP7 is F'ing loud at 100%, even at 50%, ideally 40% is good, but it heats up too much during games. although i put it to 20% for films, (but then i forget to change back for game :P)
so sam, recomend me a 92mm (im sure ur gonna say nexus hehe) for the fan replacement. it has rubber mounts, but is too loud, so hopefully i can use those fan mounts. if not cable ties :(
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12. June 2008 @ 14:45 |
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As many nexus fans as I've owned (six as it happens, aside from their other silencing products) I've not had their 92mm fans. The only 92mm fans I've had have either been built into CPU coolers like the Freezer 7 Pro or Zalman CNPS7000 or the 92mm Antec Tricool I bought - which is actually fine, not too loud even on high speed, but not a great airflow pusher. However, acoustically, the fan the freezer 7 pro comes with is excellent - it's just noisy because it's very high speed - if you use speedfan, or better yet your motherboard's automatic speed control to knock it down a bit, it's perfectly acceptable - if you're after a near-silent PC, however, very few fans will be able to produce enough airflow to keep your temps from rising - the Nexus might be up to the job at 1500rpm, but I'm not sure. The one downside of the fan on the freezer is that on its own, it doesn't actually push that much air for how fast it goes - use speedfan to set it to around 1800rpm to get an idea of how your temps will do - the Nexus is only 1500rpm, but at that speed will push a similar amount of air. At its full speed, Nexus' 92mm fan has an SPCR rating of 21dB.
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12. June 2008 @ 15:02 |
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yeah, i have it at auto speed with the mobo, but i dont like when i put it under anyload it jumps to 100%. its possible i can set this in the bios, i will have a look. btw, you got a link to the nexus for the UK?
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12. June 2008 @ 15:52 |
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13. June 2008 @ 00:16 |
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sammorris,
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Hmm, that's not how my P35 board reacted (haven't used the X38's controller). Unfortunately it being four-pin you can't use a hardware fan controller very easily.
I use the MB to control my CPU fan with the AF7-Pro and it never hits 100%. The most I've ever seen it run is 2200 rpm, and that was running Orthos! Even when encoding, it rarely gets above 1400-1500 rpm!
I have the Smart fan Control Method set to auto and the Smart Fan Control Mode set to PWM. Works fine! I did try the Intel, but you have to load the driver from the MB CD. It sucked, the PWM control is better!
Russ
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13. June 2008 @ 11:17 |
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I did the same with my 1600rpm Scythe Kaze White 120mm fan that was attached to my CPU heatsink - it never really ventured above 700rpm, except for when running Orthos when it jumped straight to 1400!
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21. July 2008 @ 22:23 |
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im thinking of ditching my ultimately crap akasa ZEN fans, got anyidea for under £10 delivered for 2 fans?
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22. July 2008 @ 05:34 |
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21. August 2008 @ 18:42 |
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I'm investing in 2 new fans.
1 is a 120mm fan that will mount on my side panel. The panel has a spot ready for a fan of that size with holes and a grid.
My question for this is should it be and intake fan or should it be exhaust. Directly next to the spot for the fan are my 2 GFX cards. There is room but i dont know if i should blow air from outside onto them or suck the air away from them.
The second is a hard drive cooling fan that mounts in my 3.5" HDD slot. I have one HDD and 3 slots.
Should i mount the fans below my drive to blow on it or above to suck away from it?
My current case config is as follows
Rear: Power supply with exhaust fan
Liquid cooling system radiator with exhaust fan blowing INTO the case (weird i know)
Side: Spot for fan
Front: Intake fan in front of the HDD slots
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21. August 2008 @ 19:45 |
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If your GPUs use dual slot coolers that exhaust out of the case, then make it intake. If they're single slots that exhaust into the case, make it exhaust.
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9. October 2008 @ 12:04 |
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My internal fan went out on me. Would an external fan do the trick in keeping it cool? Or do I need to fix my internal fan and then add an external?
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