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how bad is this media?
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econmajor
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18. December 2006 @ 15:33 |
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hi, i did an ID on the cheap DVD R's i got from microcenter.
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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:MCC-004-000]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD+R] - [DVD+R]
Manufacturer Name : [Mitsubishi Chemical Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [MCC]
Media Type ID : [004]
Product Revision : [Not Specified]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,295,104 Sectors = 4.70 GB (4.38 GiB)]
Recording Speeds : [1x-2.4x , 4x , 6x-8x , 6x-16x]
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[ DVD Identifier V5.0.1 - http://DVD.Identifier.CDfreaks.com ]
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is this absolute junk?
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dilligaf9
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18. December 2006 @ 17:35 |
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Those code out as Verbatin. #2 on the GREAT MEDIA list. Are those the ones for 12.00 or 14.00 bucks at Mico Center? They are not junk.
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18. December 2006 @ 17:51 |
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Look at my sig you have some awesome media there. Thats all I burn with.
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econmajor
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18. December 2006 @ 17:53 |
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dilligaf9
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18. December 2006 @ 18:23 |
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More than likely, they're not fakes . . Probably they're factory seconds . .
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18. December 2006 @ 22:03 |
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How are you burning? I only use MCC-004 for movies and PS2 games. Movies I burn at 8x, and PS2 at 4x, both booktyped to DVD-Rom and the results are great.
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econmajor
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18. December 2006 @ 22:30 |
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i burn at max speed... do u think that is the reason why i have problems with my burns?
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19. December 2006 @ 18:15 |
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Damn those Windatas or coding out at MCC? I always though they were crap. It looks like I'll be checking out some of these soon.
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econmajor
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19. December 2006 @ 18:58 |
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i burned a ps2 game today (fight night round 3) on both my Taiyo Yudens and these Windatas.
The Taiyo disc worked flawlessly
The Windatas froze on the start up load screen
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19. December 2006 @ 23:14 |
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I'd suggest you slow your burning to 4-8x and make sure you don't multiask during the burn.
Have you tried burning a DVD movie to see if it's really the disks, not that they just don't work in your PS2.
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econmajor
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20. December 2006 @ 01:22 |
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i had these ones before i bought my Taiyo Yudens so i burned about 8 ps2 games on them. 2 games didn't boot at all, 3 games work just fine, and 3 worked but has problems (long loading, sound, skipping, etc.)
i've never tried a DVD movie though. What should i be expecting if this is a good (or bad) quality disc?
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20. December 2006 @ 03:07 |
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Quote:
What should i be expecting if this is a good (or bad) quality disc?
A perfect playback.
If not then you'll get skipping in audio/video.
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20. December 2006 @ 04:51 |
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what burning program do you use ?
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econmajor
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20. December 2006 @ 05:00 |
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to burn ps2 games i use Alcohol 120% and DVD Decrypter (i switch from one to another when i get a bad burn.)
i haven't burned any DVD videos yet but im planning on using convertxtodvd to encode and burn.
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20. December 2006 @ 05:23 |
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i rarely decipher logfiles from either Alcohol 120% or DVD Decrypter but it's possible there's something in your burning setup that needs tweaking slightly. i myself have issues with MCC004 discs, my issue is that they don't like burning at 8x on my systems, but they burn fine at 4x.
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20. December 2006 @ 05:29 |
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Yes, a log of any kidn would be helpful to narrow down the problem. :-)
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econmajor
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20. December 2006 @ 06:07 |
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ok, tonight i am going to burn 2 more games on both TY's and MCC's. I'll be sure to save the log.
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econmajor
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20. December 2006 @ 16:42 |
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ok i just burned a game onto the MCC, i tried it out on my ps2 and surely there were problems. long loading time and skipping. im going to burn onto the TY's now, but heres the log for the MCC:
yea... i know i have a crappy laptop, but this is what i use for college =D
########################### System Information ###########################
Windows XP Professional 5.1 (Build 2600)
Processor info: Pentium M processor (1496MHz)
Memory Available to Windows: 514,480 KB
############################ Program Information ###########################
File Name: C:\Program Files\Alcohol Soft\Alcohol 120\Alcohol.exe
Company Name: Alcohol Soft Development Team
Description: Alcohol 120%
Original: alcohol.exe
Product: Alcohol 120%
Trademarks: Alcohol Soft Development Team
Copyright: Copyright(C) 2002-2006 Alcohol Soft Development Team
Version: 1.9.5 ( Build 3823 )
Date: 2006/02/25
Size: 4212608 Bytes
Hash: 939d07699e32292793fd53864192cdfe
Hash(1): d1a71e666418a79704239459955e5f7b04682e1e678a9fc039a2f1f051c114ee0
Hash(2): 3adec0640ff54f03724abfefccce017b35fe4928ebd85d7c7ffa029c9edf36de8
File Name: C:\Program Files\Alcohol Soft\Alcohol 120\alcoholx.dll
Company Name: Alcohol Soft Co., Ltd.
Description: Alcohol virtual device control library
Original: alcoholx.dll
Product: Alcohol
Copyright: Copyright (C) 2000-2006
Version: 4.3.0 ( Build 0 )
Date: 2006/01/25
Size: 403352 Bytes
Hash: 8c1efe717203eed1b9f91da81083ba1c
File Name: C:\Program Files\Alcohol Soft\Alcohol 120\devsupp.dll
Company Name: Alcohol Soft Development Team
Description: Alcohol Software Device Capability Library
Original: devsupp.dll
Product: Alcohol Software Device Capability Library
Copyright: Copyright(C) 2002-2006 Alcohol Soft Development Team
Version: 2.5.0 ( Build 1421 )
Date: 2006/02/21
Size: 46080 Bytes
Hash: c38831c1e1f37d6e198cdd9fe8a9a926
########################### User Information ###########################
Licensed to: CLUSTER_OF_BLiZZARD
Registered User ID: 2006
########################### Options Setting ###########################
Devices control interface: Default Driver Control Interface
CPU Priority Level: High
Memory Buffer Size (MB): 128
Examine the accuracy of data read from physical device: Yes
Turn off "Auto-Select best write speed" function if possible: No
Overburn disc(s): No
Fill memory buffer before recording discs: Yes
Ignore Media Type: Yes
RMPS (Recordable Media Physical Signature) Emulation: No
BAD Sectors Emulation: No
Sub-Channel Data Fixed & Emulation: No
Laserlock Emulation: No
Current Language: English
############################ Device(s) List ############################
(D:) WR4901R LXT435H (vaxscsi, Port 1, Bus 0, Target 0, Lun 0)
(E:) TSSTcorp CDW/DVD TS-L462C (atapi, Port 0, Bus 0, Target 1, Lun 0)
(F:) TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182D (USBSTOR, Port 0, Bus 0, Target 0, Lun 0)
##################### Installed Device Drivers List #####################
ACPI.sys ACPIEC.sys AegisP.sys afd.sys ALCXWDM.SYS
atapi.sys audstub.sys BATTC.SYS bcmwl5.sys Beep.SYS
BOOTVID.dll Cdfs.SYS cdrom.sys CLASSPNP.SYS CmBatt.sys
compbatt.sys disk.sys dmio.sys dmload.sys drmk.sys
dump_atapi.sys dump_WMILIB.SYS dxg.sys dxgthk.sys eeCtrl.sys
epm-psd.sys epm-shd.sys EraserUtilDrv10633.sys Fips.SYS Fs_Rec.SYS
ftdisk.sys GEARAspiWDM.sys hal.dll HIDCLASS.SYS HIDPARSE.SYS
hidusb.sys Hotkey.SYS HSF_CNXT.sys HSF_DP.sys HSFHWICH.sys
i8042prt.sys ialmdd5.DLL ialmdev5.DLL ialmdnt5.dll ialmnt5.sys
ialmrnt5.dll Imapi.SYS ipsec.sys isapnp.sys kbdclass.sys
KDCOM.DLL kmixer.sys ks.sys KSecDD.sys mdmxsdk.sys
mnmdd.SYS Modem.SYS mouclass.sys mouhid.sys MountMgr.sys
mrxdav.sys mrxsmb.sys Msfs.SYS msgpc.sys Mup.sys
naveng.sys navex15.sys NDIS.sys ndistapi.sys ndisuio.sys
ndiswan.sys NDProxy.SYS netbios.sys netbt.sys NMnt.sys
npf.sys Npfs.SYS ntdll.dll Ntfs.sys ntoskrnl.exe
Null.SYS OPRGHDLR.SYS osaio.sys osanbm.sys PartMgr.sys
pci.sys pciide.sys PCIIDEX.SYS pcmcia.sys pcouffin.sys
portcls.sys POWERKEY.sys processr.sys psched.sys ptilink.sys
PxHelp20.sys rasacd.sys rasl2tp.sys raspppoe.sys raspptp.sys
raspti.sys rdbss.sys RDPCDD.sys rdpdr.sys redbook.sys
RTL8139.SYS savrt.sys Savrtpel.sys SCSIPORT.SYS sptd.sys
sr.sys srv.sys swenum.sys SYMEVENT.SYS SYMREDRV.SYS
SYMTDI.SYS SynTP.sys sysaudio.sys tcpip.sys TDI.SYS
termdd.sys Udfs.SYS update.sys USBD.SYS usbehci.sys
usbhub.sys USBPORT.SYS usbprint.sys USBSTOR.SYS usbuhci.sys
vaxscsi.sys vga.sys VIDEOPRT.SYS VolSnap.sys wanarp.sys
watchdog.sys wdmaud.sys win32k.sys wmiacpi.sys WMILIB.SYS
################## Detailed Information of Device(s) ##################
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(E:) TSSTcorp CDW/DVD TS-L462C(0:1) detail information.
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Vendor Identification: TSSTcorp
Product Identification: CDW/DVD TS-L462C
Production Revision Level: AC01
Location: atapi, Port 0, Bus 0, Target 1, Lun 0
Support recording method: DAO, RAW SAO, RAW SAO+SUB, RAW DAO(96)
BURN-Free Technology: Unknown
Auto-Select best write speed: Not Supported
*** NOT listed in Alcohol's database. Please report to development team
-* Note: This information below is provided by the unit, it might be inaccurate. *-
-* This software does not use this information! *-
Removable media: Yes
Version: ATAPI (INF-8090i/INF-8020i/INF-8028i)
Response Data Format: 02h
CD-R Read/Write: Yes/Yes
CD-RW Read/Write: Yes/Yes
Read CD-R Fixed Packet: Yes
Test Write: Yes
DVD-ROM Read: Yes
DVD-R Read/Write: Yes/No
DVD-RAM Read/Write: No/No
Audio Play: Yes
Composite Audio and Video Data Stream: No
Digital output (IEC958) on port 1 Supported: Yes
Digital output (IEC958) on port 2 Supported: No
Mode 1 Form 2: Yes
Mode 2 Form 2: Yes
Multi-Session: Yes
BUF: Yes
CD-DA Commands supported: Yes
CD-DA Stream is Accurate: Yes
R-W Supported: Yes
R-W De-interleaved and Corrected: No
C2 Pointers Support: Yes
ISRC Supported: Yes
UPC Supported: Yes
Read Bar Code: No
Lock media into the drive: Yes
Currently drive Lock state: Unlocked
Prevent Jumper: No
Eject Command: Yes
Separate volume levels: Yes
Separate channel mute: Yes
Changer Supports Disc Present: No
Software slot selection: No
Side change capable: No
P through W in Lead-In: Yes
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
(F:) TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182D(USB:0) detail information.
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Vendor Identification: TSSTcorp
Product Identification: CD/DVDW SH-S182D
Production Revision Level: SB04
Location: USBSTOR, Port 0, Bus 0, Target 0, Lun 0
Support recording method: DAO, RAW SAO, RAW SAO+SUB, RAW DAO(96), DVD DAO
BURN-Free Technology: Unknown
Auto-Select best write speed: Not Supported
*** NOT listed in Alcohol's database. Please report to development team
-* Note: This information below is provided by the unit, it might be inaccurate. *-
-* This software does not use this information! *-
Removable media: Yes
Version: ATAPI (INF-8090i/INF-8020i/INF-8028i)
Response Data Format: 02h
CD-R Read/Write: Yes/Yes
CD-RW Read/Write: Yes/Yes
Read CD-R Fixed Packet: Yes
Test Write: Yes
DVD-ROM Read: Yes
DVD-R Read/Write: Yes/Yes
DVD-RAM Read/Write: Yes/Yes
Audio Play: Yes
Composite Audio and Video Data Stream: No
Digital output (IEC958) on port 1 Supported: No
Digital output (IEC958) on port 2 Supported: No
Mode 1 Form 2: Yes
Mode 2 Form 2: Yes
Multi-Session: Yes
BUF: Yes
CD-DA Commands supported: Yes
CD-DA Stream is Accurate: Yes
R-W Supported: Yes
R-W De-interleaved and Corrected: No
C2 Pointers Support: Yes
ISRC Supported: Yes
UPC Supported: Yes
Read Bar Code: No
Lock media into the drive: Yes
Currently drive Lock state: Unlocked
Prevent Jumper: No
Eject Command: Yes
Separate volume levels: Yes
Separate channel mute: Yes
Changer Supports Disc Present: No
Software slot selection: No
Side change capable: No
P through W in Lead-In: Yes
#######################################################################
###################### Source Disc/Image Information ######################
Type: Standard ISO Image file
Path: C:\Documents and Settings\Sarun\Desktop\PS2 ISO\
Name: st2-cod3.ISO
Size: 3557.56 MB
Session: 1
Track: 1
Session 01:
Track 01: DVD, Length: 1821472(3.47 GB), Address: 000000
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####################### Dumping/Recording Progress Log #######################
********* Time stamp of this log file: 12/20/2006 6:23:32 PM *********
18:23:32 Processor info: Pentium M processor (1496MHz)
18:23:32 Memory Available to Windows: 514,480 KB
18:23:32 Memory Buffer size: 128 MB
18:23:32 Image file loading: C:\Documents and Settings\Sarun\Desktop\PS2 ISO\st2-cod3.ISO
18:23:32 DVD Source Info: Session: 1, Track: 1, Length: 3.47 GB / 404:46:22
18:23:38 (F:) TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182D(USB:0): Recording Method/Speed
18:23:38 Recording - DVD DAO - 4.0X (5540 KB/Sec)
(F:) TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182D(USB:0) - Media format: DVD+R
18:34:44 Image file loading completed!
18:35:32 (F:) TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S182D(USB:0): Recording completed successfully!
18:35:32 Elapsed Time: 00:11:53, Average speed: 3.8X
18:35:35 All recording procedures have been completed!
18:35:35 Elapsed Time: 00:11:59
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econmajor
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20. December 2006 @ 17:11 |
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burned same same file with DVD Decrypter on a taiyo yuden, works just fine.
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20. December 2006 @ 17:52 |
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hmmm....could just be your burner...some burners just like specific media over another. I say if TY are working for you, stick with them...they are after all probably the absolute best you could buy (at least that is the opinion of numerous people here, I gotta get my hands on a spindle and give them a shot)
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dilligaf9
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20. December 2006 @ 18:23 |
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econmajor... Take a look at the outer label of the Windata cakebox. Where were the discs made? Hong Kong, Taiwan, or China? Also there is a lot number on the label , what is it? I picked up 50 tonight to check them out. They are made in Hong Kong ..
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econmajor
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20. December 2006 @ 18:38 |
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Originally posted by dilligaf9:
econmajor... Take a look at the outer label of the Windata cakebox. Where were the discs made? Hong Kong, Taiwan, or China? Also there is a lot number on the label , what is it? I picked up 50 tonight to check them out. They are made in Hong Kong ..
i threw away the lable on the cakebox, but this is the exact item i ordred:
http://microcenter.com/single_product_re...oduct_id=244675
what does it mean if they are made in HK? does that mean they are fake MCC004?
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21. December 2006 @ 00:49 |
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I can't think at the moment as to your disks and being fake or whatever. It's like 10am and I've just got up :P
Anyhow, have you tried burning with IMGBurn?
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dilligaf9
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21. December 2006 @ 06:55 |
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Eco...I picked these up last night. They are the Windata DVD+ and DVD- formats. They code out as mcc 004 and mcc03rg20, made by Verbatim. BUT the package states MADE IN HONG KONG by UmeDisc Limited , City of Industy , California. My understanding is Genuine Verbatims are Made in Taiwan so the package would state MIT on it. Also checking this Ume Disc Company yields info on their manufacture of fake discs . Info here at bottom of page.
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
Question 1.. Does Verbatim manufacture dvds outside of Taiwan?
2.. Does Verbatim make any House Brand dvds for anyone?
3.. Why are the inner halographic numbers different and or lacking on the Windata disc as compared to a genuine Verbatim disc?
4.. Why are there no similarities at the center hub when comparing both companies dvds. They look totaly different..
I dont think its your burner I think its the DVDs.. JMO
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