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28. September 2006 @ 02:01 |
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Yeah I dunno I'm very glad I have a dual core, but I'm struggling to think of a use for two more.
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28. September 2006 @ 07:26 |
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upped the ram to 166 and i got superpi down to 41.546 (af378d34)
it would boot and log on to windows @200 but would not complete super pi
rams running @166 in bios and 197.5mhz cpu:12 2.5 3 3 8 11 2t thats from cpuz and the timings are set to auto in bios
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its the software that needs to catch up to make the most of multi core cpus, but its like 64bit os its not suported enough to make all the manufactorers devlope for it.
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28. September 2006 @ 13:51 |
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marsey99,
Change MA Timing in your bios to 1T.
That will give you about a 3% increase in performance.
Try super pi again.
If it won't complete super pi,raise your memory voltage to 2.7v and see how that goes.If it still won't complete super pi try changing your timings to 2.5,4,4,8
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein |
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28. September 2006 @ 15:29 |
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thats got me down to 39.907 (oaf6b9co)i tried it at stock before so i could compare and it took 48.5 (o35db261) so the 20%oc has knocked 20% off the time, which is nice.
only thing is i have had to get rid of forceware and stick with makers drivers
do you think i shoud try changing the timings in bios because apart from that just they are still set to auto. the voltage i dont know about because the options it gives me are high, med, low and auto
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28. September 2006 @ 16:03 |
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marsey99,
Try medium for your memory voltage.
Set cas latency(CL) to 2.5
Set TRCD to 4
Set TRP to 4
Set TRAS to 8
Try these and see how you go.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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28. September 2006 @ 16:21 |
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thats slowed me down to 40.531. what about the burst length and what is setup NB TOM registor. it has 5 ram voltage settings it has very high aswel
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28. September 2006 @ 16:46 |
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marsey99,
OK,
set the ram @ 2.5,3,3,6 if it won't complete super pi change TRAS to 7.
Leave the ram on medium for now.
Set the burst length at 8 this will give you more bandwidth,if it's not stable set it to 4.
Not sure what NB TOM registor is.What options does it give you??
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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28. September 2006 @ 17:00 |
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off + on
that gives me 39.969
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28. September 2006 @ 17:13 |
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I would leave the NB tom thing for now.
Now try to increase your cpu bus speed 1mhz and see how you go.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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28. September 2006 @ 18:08 |
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242 is still the max, any higher than that and bsod, i ran spi every time to check it and at 241 it completed but locked up on completion i then dropped the ram to 133 and it worked but took 42sec to complete.
240x10 with ram @166 2.5 3 3 8 =39.203
240x10 with ram @166 2.5 3 3 6 =39.605
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just downloaded pdf manual, i now uderstand what you was on about(page 27 from manual in the box is in chinese) your right that says it goes from .800 to 1.5 but the refference cpu in those pics is athlon it also says you can up the multi to 11 but with my semperon it only alows me x10 and the voltage goes from.700 to 1.45, alltho cpuz is telling me that its 1.48 right now. and both have no mention of the nb tom register
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28. September 2006 @ 18:27 |
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Try setting the ram voltage to high and set it to 200mhz.
I wish you could up the voltage of the processor that would make a huge difference.
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In your bios where it says overclock mode have you set that to manual?
You can only lower the multi not raise it unless you have an FX series processor.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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28. September 2006 @ 18:34 |
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yes overclock is set to manual, its the only way to change the frequency. after seeing that so do i, but mines also a different revision if that makes any difference. mines a DH-E6
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with which other settings 241 and 166?
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28. September 2006 @ 18:42 |
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Different revisions do make a difference.Yours may overclock better,or it may not overclock as well.Did you try setting the ram voltage to high and 200mhz?
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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28. September 2006 @ 18:53 |
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cpu @ 241mhz,memory @200mhz voltage set to high.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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28. September 2006 @ 19:30 |
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tried 241/166high and it worked, 242/166high bsod at login then tried nb link @600 still bsod at login back to 241/166high@800 bsod had to drop to 238/166med@800 to boot and spi competed
sorry about the delay my 5 month old daughter woke up for her feed
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tried it(241/200high) and it wouldn't post, but i found out that pressing reset during a failed post resets the bios and that saved me a job. now running at 240/166med and just got superpi down to 39.078(7e9c75fo) which is a pb. i think that we have hit the limits for this voltage, or maybe this chip what do you think?
i will have to look if i can get an updated/hacked bios if it will allow the voltage to be changed
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28. September 2006 @ 20:44 |
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marsey99,
Sorry also for the delay,just been to the shops. Quote:
now running at 240/166med and just got superpi down to 39.078
What are your ram timings at now?
By all means look for an updated or 3rd party bios.
A different bios can make a world of difference.
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28. September 2006 @ 21:08 |
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marsey99,Go here:
http://www.asrock.com/support/download.asp?Model=K8NF4G-SATA2
Download bios version 1.2
Apparently when bios version 1.3 was released they disabled the cpu voltage Adjustment.Click on the lightglobe icon for instructions how to update.Also download the version 1.7 bios so if you encounter problems with 1.2(unlikely) you can flash back to the latest version.
This is from the asrock site:
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If you encounter problems while updating the new BIOS, DO NOT turn off your system since this corrupt BIOS might cause your system not to boot up. Just repeat the process, and if the problem still persists, update the original BIOS file.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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28. September 2006 @ 23:13 |
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thanks for the link but thats not my mobo, mines the newwer model the k8nf4g vsta and the bios is 2.1 the guy in the shop said i was the first one he'd sold, he said that it has better sound, can take amd or intel heat sink's and looks like a better designed board.
2.5 3 3 8 1t
now im realy tired cos iv been up all night its now 8:10 and i need to get a couple of hours sleep.
thanks for the help phil
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29. September 2006 @ 03:29 |
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Sorry to send you off on a wild goosechase Phil!!!
I should have read the fine print!!
Actually all things considered after looking at your cpuz screen shot,Your bus speed is 959.9mhz... thats nearly perfect!!Remember thats DDR so times that by 2 and you have 1919.8mhz.Just under the default of 2000mhz.Anyware between 1800-2000mhz is acceptible.And youv'e gained nearly 400 mhz over stock. Thats not bad considering cpu overvoltage is'nt available.Your under 40 secs super pi thats ok.Now the real test.
Run prime 95.I consider 12 hours prime with no errors stable(for what I do anyway).Give it a go post the results.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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29. September 2006 @ 10:14 |
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i will get it in a min and leave it running over night tonight as i will be asleep, i only got 3 hours before,then post it tomorrow.
on a slighly differnt note, ihave in the past said that 3dmarks is a bullpooh way to measure your pcs compitence, but this was said without any basis, i had never used it so realy should not of voiced an uneducated opinion. a friend gave me a copy of 06 last night and told me to run it before sprouting anymore verbal diarea(nice i know) so before i did. i was surprised by what it did, and some of the vids it runs are very impresive. now i would have to say i have changed my opinion now. if you can get a copy, give it a go and see what you think you may be surprised. anyway i was by my scores now,
3dmark -3198
sm 2.0 -1460
hdr/sm 3.0 -1287
cpu -926
amd 3400+ cpu score should be 700 which gives me a 30+% increase and my gpus stock is sm2 812 and sm3 1032
iv oced that aswell core is now 600 and ram is 1500 effective and the amount that has upped it from stock has pleased me it puts me on par with a x1900gt on sm 2.0 and in between 2 7600gs's in sli and a 7800gt on sm 3.0 on their stock speeds
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it ran for the grand total of 8 hours and 47 minutes before a fatal error, a 5 that should of been less than 4 stopped it from running.
dont be crowy you have gave me loads of help. they make 3 boards that they name almost identicle it will cause confusion, the thing is i need to get a floppy so that i can flash the bios first, do you know if i can use an external usb, or does it have to be an internal one
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30. September 2006 @ 01:39 |
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marsey99,
Damn I hate that 5/4 error!!
I would say depending on what you do with the computer your stable.Unless your heavily into games.If your playing games and you get lock ups drop it 2 mhz.If that gives you stability,good.If not,drop it another 2 mhz etc.
I've only ever flashed from floppy,but I'm sure you can flash from an external source. Try Googling I'm sure it can be done.One other thing,I have several friends with computers and none have floppy drives.I think today the humble floppy is often overlooked.It should be a compulsory part of the hardware.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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30. September 2006 @ 03:00 |
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im hoping to play some games when time permits thats why i bought this board so i could get a pcie card. i had a look and i can flash the bios from windows but if that fails i think i would need to it from dos at which piont i would need the floppy.
have you heard of wire modding? because on this
http://www.ocinside.de/index_e.html (click on workshop on the left)
site they show you which wires to do to get upto 1.55v do you think it would be worth it after what prime95 has said or do you think the extra volts might help it?
its the other option i have found
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30. September 2006 @ 03:16 |
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Yes I've heard of hardwire moddding and yes the extra vcore will certainly make a difference.
If you feel confident go for it.If not,be happy with what youv'e got!!
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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30. September 2006 @ 05:53 |
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i am more than happy with it just look at the scores, my cpu is on par with athlon 3800 clawhammers which cost nearly twice as much as my sempron at the time i got it.
i think i might leave it as it is for now, and the realy push it after xmas just before i upgade to dual core/ddr2.
thanks alot again crowy without you im not sure how far i would of pushed it or if id of had the balls to do it at all. everytime my pc puts a smile on my face from now on it will make me think of you, you starman
nice1, phil
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30. September 2006 @ 11:21 |
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Marsey99,
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the thing is i need to get a floppy so that i can flash the bios first, do you know if i can use an external usb, or does it have to be an internal one
I'm almost pos that it will have to be an internal floppy because the only drive A the bios is capable of seeing would be the internal as the only OS at that point is provided by the BIOS. Even for my recent RAID 1, it had to be the floppy drive A. You can't assign a USB drive A in the BIOS, even if you boot from a USB device.
Most newer MBs have built-it support for USB 2.0. It's not full support, but rather a compatibility mode that allows you to boot from it. Once SP-2 is installed, you can install the full 2.0! Even if you used 2 floppys, it will only boot from the BIOS assigned A drive and even then it will only be the end connector on the cable as it's not addressable by anything but the cable itself. The end is always A and the middle is always B! Unless you are using a dual 3.50/5.25 floppy drive and they don't make them anymore. I have one but I rarely ever use it. Once in a rare while I come across someome with pics stored on a 5.25 and I use it to transfer the data to a 3.50.
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