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crowy
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26. September 2006 @ 04:09 |
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Iv'e tried to uninstall sandra with "your uninstaller",cleaned the registry with 3 registry cleaners,run cc cleaner,run ewido anti-spyware,protector plus 2000 anti-virus, disconnected from the net and then installed 2007.STILL DOESN"T WORK!!!!
Do you think it's been disabled by sisoftware or could it be a new virus(the sandra virus??)
Or could a windows update have caused a problem??
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 26. September 2006 @ 04:24
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26. September 2006 @ 05:56 |
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To my knowledge, no windows updates have happened on my machine since I last used 2005 a few days ago. I think it's been remotely disabled.
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26. September 2006 @ 09:30 |
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Here's SiSoft's answer,
The digital certificate Sandra 2005 was signed with has expired. All certificates expire sometime and we haven't renewed this one as it does not work with Vista*.
This means the digital signature is invalid and thus the program will no longer run.
Don't take our word for it, go into Sandra's folder and do a Properties with Explorer on Sandra.exe, etc. and check the Digital Certificates tab.
Thank you.
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C. Adrian Silasi
SiSoftware (EU)
Well that kind of sucks! 2005 is a better program than 2007 in my opinion. It's much easier to see the effects of small changes with, and the test window is able to be opened to full screen so you can see what you are comparing to!
If you set the date in Windows to before 09/23/06, it will work!
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theone
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26. September 2006 @ 11:08 |
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LOL! That's funny, and to think I've bypassed Antivirus subscription renewals that way! change clock, do update and then put clock back!
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26. September 2006 @ 13:59 |
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Sam,
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LOL! That's funny, and to think I've bypassed Antivirus subscription renewals that way! change clock, do update and then put clock back!
I don't think that will work as it's certificate has expired! I just set the date back and it works!
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theone
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26. September 2006 @ 15:42 |
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iv not had the balls to do any thing yet, had a good look at the bios and there isnt much that i cant change or lock. now iv done a bit of searching and some say drop the ram up the bus and others say change the multiplier some say abit of both. my head hurts.
iv never oced before what do you advise?
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26. September 2006 @ 16:32 |
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Oh Crowy,
Marsey99 needs your help! I don't know enough about overclocking AMDs to give advice! I can OC the hell out af an Intel but have yet to learn about the ins and outs of the AMDs!
Happy Computering,
theone
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26. September 2006 @ 17:37 |
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semp 3400+ palermo (stock hsf)
asrock k8nf4g-vsta
512x2 single sided ddr400 value select
asus en7600gt
toshiba dl dvdrw x8
250g samsung spinpoint sata
generic 300w psu with 8cm fan(@ top)
12cm fan x 2, 1 front 1 back.
temps 34/35 to 43/44 idle to after gaming. id never seen it above 41 till i put it in this board with new gcard.
next on the shopping list is new psu and a heat sink. i was thinking of the evo 33 hs but not sure on psu
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crowy
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26. September 2006 @ 18:01 |
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theone,
I'll get back to marsey99 in a while.
For now here's a workaround for sandra:
Download this:
http://www.wonderworks.ca/nbia/dc20000.zip
Install the program then do this:
1.Click on add then just type in sandra.
2.On simulated run date type in September 22 2006.
3.On the box at the bottom,click it then go to your sandra.exe file located where you installed sandra.
4.Click open.
5.Click run.
Now you will see it works again...forever!!!
However,the sandra icon on your desktop still won't open sandra because date cracker has to be running so...
Delete the sandra shortcut from your desk top and change the name of the date cracker icon to sandra.Then all you need to do to run sandra is click your new sandra icon then click run!
Should look like this:
Regards crowy.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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crowy
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26. September 2006 @ 18:49 |
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marsey99,
Firstly,I assume you know how to clear your cmos in case your computer crashes/locks up and it won't boot.
If you do,lets go.
Drop the memory down to 133mhz as you mentioned.That will eliminate the memory causing problems when you raise the bus speed.Don,t jump straight from 200mhz to 300 mhz thats way to much to start with.I would try 220 then 230 then go up in 5mhz increments from there.Once your computer fails to boot or becomes unstable Increase your cpu vcore .02v and try again.If you still get errors drop it back 5mhz and try again until you can boot into windows.If you get above 250mhz drop the LDT multi to 3 to avoid overclocking the HTT bus speed.Once you are at the stage where you can boot into windows,take note of your cpu frequency,then restart your computer go back into your bios and drop the cpu multi to 9x.Now increase the fsb in 5 mhz increments again until you can no longer get into windows then drop it back 5mhz.
Try to boot into windows again,if your succesful thats good,if not dropping by 5 mhz until you get into windows.Compare your max cpu speed @10x with your max cpu speed @9x multi and let me know the results.Remember,you may not be stable yet but what we just did was find out if your cpu will run faster on a 10x multi or a 9x multi.
Try this to start with then we will do some stability tests then work on the memory.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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26. September 2006 @ 20:23 |
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crowy,
Thanks for the link. It works perfectly. Great minds must think alike as I was about to go looking for a program like this. BTW, I posted it on the Hounds. Gave you credit for the find! Hope you don't mind!
BTW, if you come across a program called AT Slowdown, let me know. Back in the day, it was used to slow down a computer to allow it to run some programs that the computer was too fast for. My Colecovision Emulator doesn't run properly because this computer is just too fast for it. The program was designed for 16 bit! The original Colecovision was an 8 bit Z-80! I know it's old but I still enjoy games like Donkey Kong Jr. and Burgertime!
Thanks Again,
Russ
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crowy
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27. September 2006 @ 00:06 |
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theone,
no worries at all.
Have a look here I think this will interest you.it's got a heap of programs that should do what you want including AT slow.
http://www.geocities.com/kulhain/
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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27. September 2006 @ 07:12 |
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thanks for the advice crowy and yes i do know where the jumpers are they are the real fiddley ones in between bat and floppy port
i will let you know my finding as soon as. but first i will install new psu (450w) and the evo33 tonight then give that a go tomorrow
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i have installed cpz and speedfan so i could monitor things and cpz shows my multi dropping to x5, after reading the mobo manual it says that one of the drivers, athlon64 driver, drops it when the cpu is not in use to save power. will this interfear with my ocing or is a good thing?
also after looking in the bios it wont let me up the core voltage
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crowy
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27. September 2006 @ 15:19 |
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marsey99,Disable the AMD "cool'n'quiet option in your bios if it's there.This will keep your multi at 10x.Not to worry about having no vcore adjustment,it won't stop you o/clocking but will limit how far you can go.I'm sure somewhere between 2.3~2.4ghz will be possible.Any more than that will be a bonus!
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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27. September 2006 @ 15:29 |
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marsey99,
Have a look at page 27 of your manual.There should be an option that says Multplier/voltage change.Switch that to manual and you will have vcore adjust.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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27. September 2006 @ 15:58 |
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scarey that dude is my house bugged? lol
242@x10 240@x9 is that strange?
higher than that and its b.s.o.d. time
you are right but it wont let me up it, it maxs out at 1.45v which is the stock setting
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iv turned off c+q and left the voltage as auto in the bios and cpu-z is telling me that the voltage is around 1.48 give or take .02 and the core is running at 2379.9(238x10)
i have locked the pci-e at 100mhz but i cant find the ldt multi you mentioned but at these speeds i guess i dont need it. what about the cpu to nb and nb to sb do you think anything in there might help?
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27. September 2006 @ 16:32 |
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Marsey99,
Don't look now, we are right behind you!!! LOL Opps, now we're in front of you!!! Invisibility works!! LOL Seriously, good luck with your new MB and overclock!
Happy Computering,
theone
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crowy
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27. September 2006 @ 16:33 |
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marsey99,
Nothing strange about that.Some chips o/c better @9x some @10x.
Although your cpu max is about the same @ 9 or 10x,one may be more stable than the other.Now download super pi here:
http://www.xtremesystems.com/pi/super_pi_mod-1.5.zip
and run 1m iterations.Run it at with your cpu at 10x240 and again with your cpu at 9x267.
then post the results.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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27. September 2006 @ 17:27 |
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marsey99,
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what about the cpu to nb and nb to sb do you think anything in there might help?
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That's the same as an LDT multi.So yes it will help.
Drop the cpu to nb to 800(This is the same as having the LDT multi if you had one set at 4x)This will put your fsb @1920mhz from the default 2000mhz and hopefully allow you to go a bit higher with the cpu frequency.If you manage to get your cpu to 250mhz,having the cpu to nb set to 800mhz(same as 4 times LDT multi)will put your fsb back to the default 2000mhz.
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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27. September 2006 @ 17:35 |
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since last post iv had some problems bsod saying driver irql blah blah blah so ive dropped it to 235x10 and it seems ok. oblivion ran smooth for half an hour, turned it off to check temps 38c with fan about half(evo33 cant rate highly enough will post in other thread) i could get that on a hot day surfing with retail hsf. will try that link now but i dont think it will post @9x267 but i can try
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youv posted again while i was dordling. that link keeps timing out so i will see what happens when i change the cpu to north bridge and try that @x9
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27. September 2006 @ 18:12 |
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I have the ASUS CrossHair MOBO, with an extremely in depth OC feature built right into the BIOS. It has dozens of options for CPU and RAM and I would like to OC but I don't know what to change.
-I would love to OC my RAM, its DDR2 800(6400) 4-4-4-15 2.1v, my BIOS has options for all the Trcl?, Tclr? lol I don't know the abreviations or what they do, but I know those are the things I need to change, and it also has voltages. What do I need to do?
-I would love to OC my CPU (AMD64 X2 4600+) but I have no clue what setting to adjust.
-I would finally love to OC my VidCard, its a Nvidia 7950GX2, is there any easy to use programs to OC? Or should I just use the MSI OC software that came with the vidcard?
I scored a 7650 on 3DMark06 Advanced Edition and hope to maybe get it up 250-750 points :)
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27. September 2006 @ 18:57 |
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it still not stable above 240x10 turned the nb/sb down to 600 tried it @260x9 needed to reset bios first time tonight.
i think i have to admit defeat and leave it at 2.39ghz(on post) any thing more than that and it wont stay stable in windows.
iv put c+q back on aswel so i can turn the fan down, it comes with a dail on a back plate to adjust speeds from 1200rpm to 4300rpm, when its not needed becuase when it drops to x5 the voltage drops to 1.12and its runnig now at 31c.
i ran superpi and got the ground breaking score of 45.256 for 1m (731b91a)
but my rams still @133 i can put it back to 166 and tighten the timeings see if that does much to improve it, but its late here now and im tired so it can wait till morning
thank for walking me through this crowy your a star. it looks like your knowledge of the dark art is needed by someone else
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27. September 2006 @ 19:26 |
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marsey99,
No worries at all.
Yes by all means put your ram back @ 166 this will give your ram an effective speed of just over DDR398mhz(close enough to DDR400!)You can try your ram @200mhz also, this will put it @DDR478mhz.I was using corsair value select and managed 510mhz if I recall with the ram voltage @ 2.9v and timings @ 3,4,4,8 1T command rate.I also noticed in your manual on page 27 it says this:
Processor Voltage
This item will show when ?Multiplier/Voltage Change? is set to [Manual];
otherwise, it will be hidden. You may set the value from [1.550V] down to
[0.800V]. However, for safety and system stability, it is not recommended
to adjust the value of this item.
If you can raise the voltage by even .1v it can make all the difference.
Also if you are going to try to go a bit faster make sure to disable cool"n"quiet
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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27. September 2006 @ 19:57 |
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Marsey99.
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it looks like your knowledge of the dark art is needed by someone else
I guess that makes Crowy, the "Dark Art Master"! Actually, it's only "Dark Art" because the motherboard manufacturers choose to keep us in the dark as to what all these Acronyms mean and just what the heck they do! Why the hell they can't just explain what things do and then everybody wouldn't have to go crazy trying to figure it out!
I've pretty well mastered the Intel I've OC'd my 3.0 Prescott to 3.94, which is an amazing 31%. This is with an Asus P4P800-SE MB! My D-940 OC'd from 3.2 to 3.91, which is about 24%. I'm sure that with a better MB, I could hit over 4.0 with it. I'm using an Asus P5P800-SE MB for the D-940, and it wasn't designed with Dual-Cores in mind. CPU temps won't read right and Asus had it for a month and it came back with the same problem. That's what Asus calls "fixing" it! The only thing they did right was replace the VRMs with heavier duty parts and heavier capacitors. It runs so..... good, I'm half tempted to try for 4.0 or better, on air. Arctic Freezer 7 Pro to the rescue! The 3.0 Prescott has a Zalman 9500 LED in it.
I'm sure you will get it all sorted out. Once you finally get a Dual-Core, you will wonder how you ever did without it. I was stuck for a month with only the Prescott and believe me when I say I noticed the difference. The D-940 is more than twice as fast!
Happy Computering,
theone
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crowy
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28. September 2006 @ 00:17 |
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theone,
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Once you finally get a Dual-Core, you will wonder how you ever did without it.
I'll second that!!
Now what about Quad cores???
If the facts dont fit the theory, change the facts." -- Albert Einstein
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