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23. August 2008 @ 12:29 |
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Yeah, plus it comes REALLY in handy if you encode movies or stuff. Oh and IT IS GOOD for multitasking.
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23. August 2008 @ 17:39 |
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I don't give a monkey's about idle temps, which is why the 80C idle temp of the 4870 didn't bother me. A CPU will never overheat at idle, so I only really care about laod temps, and with a highly OC'ed CPU and a Freezer 7, they're high - maybe not too high, but high enough.
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24. August 2008 @ 09:38 |
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Max load at 3.6GHz was somewhere around 65*C. So, not exactly in the danger zone, but getting close. Too close for me. I like to keep it under 60 at all times if possible.
As far as the 4870's running hot. What does ATi say is the safe limit for the card? I would guess 100*C or so. Idling at 80 is not safe for that kind of hardware at any rate. Turn the fan speed up a bit and watch the temps drop. Someone turned the fan to 50%(on a single 4870) and his idle dropped to 46*C.
It's the second post down.
http://www.overclock.net/ati/367444-safe-temp-hd4870.html
Could you please try this once on either card? I would like to see what you think about fan noise and what the temps are.
Also, my Q9450 and 4870 are going to be here tomorrow. This is going to be exciting :D
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24. August 2008 @ 09:43 |
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Idle temp on my 4870 was about 77-78C (900rpm), load temp was about 87C (2400rpm). Didn't have any fan speed control software with my 4870 - I could potentially test it in my PC, but it took me so long to install the X2, I'm not really going to spend all that time just for that purpose.
What I will tell you though, is the X2 idles at around 65C (1200rpm) and loads in the low nineties at 2400rpm, in crossfire, eighties when not (also runs at a lower fan speed when CF isn't working too). Upping the fan speed to 50% (there's not currently a tool to go any lower) drops the idle temps to about 42-45C, load I'm not sure, I don't yet have a game that will use crossfire in window mode to check.
When you get your Q9450 and HD4870 running, would you mind running 3dmark06 twice? I'm curious to see what score you get a) at stock, and b) at whatever you consider a reasonable overclock.
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24. August 2008 @ 10:02 |
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That's good to hear. Hopefully I can do the same with my single 4870. I want to find a happy medium with fan noise though. During gaming, I can stand some fan noise. But on desktop, I want it barely noticeable.
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When you get your Q9450 and HD4870 running, would you mind running 3dmark06 twice? I'm curious to see what score you get a) at stock, and b) at whatever you consider a reasonable overclock.
Sure, I can do that. I wonder if the OC boosts the scores at all.
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24. August 2008 @ 10:04 |
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Then leave it stock. The card is DEAD silent at idle, and makes a slight air-rush like noise at load, no tonal noise or vibration whatsoever.
The fan speed adjustment program does work for the 4870, but I didn't know about it until I got the X2.
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24. August 2008 @ 10:06 |
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I want the fan spinning faster than that. I'll see what happens when I get the card.
Did you check my edit?
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24. August 2008 @ 10:10 |
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Which one? You edited both posts...
By overclock, I meant the CPU, I know what effect OC'ing has on the graphics card, the 4870 overclocks relatively well with a noticeable difference in real world performance, but due to my CPU limit, in 3dmark at least the score didn't go up much - 12,759 to 13,016. With the 4870X2 my score rose further to 14,164, but given that my old HD3870 Crossfire pair achieved 13,801 when overclocked, it seems pretty clear my CPU is a limit in 3dmark. Solely for 3dmark, I'd say 'who cares?' but given what I've found in some games like Crysis and Age of Conan, my CPU may be more of a limit than I thought. I'm intending to get a Q6600 not a Q9450 because it's barely more than half the price, but a 9450 should give me a pretty good idea of what to expect.
Also, at the start of the first test, Return to Proxycon, when they're still in the landing craft, my frame rate has been limited to 86 every time, HD3870CF, HD4870 and HD4870X2. Upping my CPU to 3.2Ghz means I now see 87-88...
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24. August 2008 @ 11:27 |
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Well, then I'd suppose a quad will help your scores a lot. I'm not sure what to expect in 3D mark.
I'm aware you meant CPU. I'm leaving the 4870 at stock for sure.
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24. August 2008 @ 11:30 |
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I'd never dream of using vmods etc, but I tried overdrive and it worked quite well, it reached the end of both sliders without crashing, and set valus one off the maximum attainable, so from 750/900 to 790/1090.
As for 3dmark, I'm not sure what to expect either, which is why I'm asking. I make 14,106 with my 4870X2 and E4300 @ 3.20Ghz now, my friend Jon made 16,300 with an 8800GTS G92 (overclocked) and Q9450 @ 3.36Ghz.
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24. August 2008 @ 11:37 |
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I'm expecting maybe 16,000 or so. Maybe it'll be higher but I don't know really.
I got the Q9450 in the hopes that it would give me a boost in benchmarks, multi-tasking, winRAR, encoding, etc. I never expected a gaming boost at all. So if there is one, it'll probably be very small.
I could have gotten a Q6600 but I wanted the higher multi and the newest technology. Aside from the extra cores, the Q6600 would have nearly been a downgrade for me. The Q9450 is a happy medium. I thought the price was fair for both the specs and the 45nm.
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24. August 2008 @ 11:38 |
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Given over here that the Q6600 is only 60% of the price of the Q9450, I think it's really a bit of a sore deal, so I'm sticking with the 6600.
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24. August 2008 @ 12:12 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
I'm expecting maybe 16,000 or so. Maybe it'll be higher but I don't know really.
I got the Q9450 in the hopes that it would give me a boost in benchmarks, multi-tasking, winRAR, encoding, etc. I never expected a gaming boost at all. So if there is one, it'll probably be very small.
I could have gotten a Q6600 but I wanted the higher multi and the newest technology. Aside from the extra cores, the Q6600 would have nearly been a downgrade for me. The Q9450 is a happy medium. I thought the price was fair for both the specs and the 45nm.
Actually the Q6600 has the higher multi :p
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24. August 2008 @ 12:15 |
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Q6600 = 9x266 = 2.4Ghz
Q9450 = 8x333 = 2.66Ghz
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24. August 2008 @ 12:55 |
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Originally posted by abuzar1:
Originally posted by Estuansis:
I'm expecting maybe 16,000 or so. Maybe it'll be higher but I don't know really.
I got the Q9450 in the hopes that it would give me a boost in benchmarks, multi-tasking, winRAR, encoding, etc. I never expected a gaming boost at all. So if there is one, it'll probably be very small.
I could have gotten a Q6600 but I wanted the higher multi and the newest technology. Aside from the extra cores, the Q6600 would have nearly been a downgrade for me. The Q9450 is a happy medium. I thought the price was fair for both the specs and the 45nm.
Actually the Q6600 has the higher multi :p
Originally posted by sammorris:
Q6600 = 9x266 = 2.4Ghz
Q9450 = 8x333 = 2.66Ghz
that didn't justify anything. The multiplier is still higher on the Q6600 at 9 instead of 8. The Q9450 is set to a higher frequency stock.
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24. August 2008 @ 13:02 |
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It justified that the Q6600 had the higher multiplier... :P
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24. August 2008 @ 16:59 |
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Well fine then, rip me a new face...
Anyway I'm glad to be getting a Quad at all.
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24. August 2008 @ 17:00 |
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Ahaha, you know we're just kiddin around.
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24. August 2008 @ 17:35 |
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IMO for me, E8600 > Quad (unless its a Qx9770)
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24. August 2008 @ 17:37 |
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Well that's because you don't encode videos, use WinRar, or the many different things in which a Quad core comes in handy.
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24. August 2008 @ 17:42 |
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well that and the new E0 stepping of the E8600, infact id inlude the Q9650 over the QX9700 as it also has the E0 stepping :)
i use winrar, but as i am pirating less and less, and buying more legitly, i dont have the need
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24. August 2008 @ 17:48 |
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lol
WELL, there are other uses for it you know.
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24. August 2008 @ 17:51 |
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not for most of you people :p
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24. August 2008 @ 17:56 |
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I don't know what's wrong with the youth of today; i keep seeing winrar listed as a reason for going Quad core. Is that of some stupid checklist on the net, as i've never heard of anything so daft - i mean being as most people don't unrar/unzip that often (yes i torrent a fair bit therefore ie unrar etc) but come on, it's just a bit of disk thrashing.
/me wishes he was back in the days when pc's first came out.
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24. August 2008 @ 18:09 |
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its not as if one will be winzipping 10 hours a day, maybe once a week, so a dual core with a higher clock> Quad with lower
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