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As for me, Modular Power supply every time. I've never heard of a single person having trouble with the modular part of a PSU (neither have I heard of anyone who's had a problem with a PSU and it been ambiguous) and I can't justify having a huge number of power cables in my PC if I don't need them, my cabling is enough of a mess as it is!



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I thought you said you used every cable?...(LOL)


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On my Hiper Type-R I did, I don't on my Thermaltake Toughpower. What I do wish, though, is that they included more Molex connectors with PSUs as options. I don't know many people that need 8 S-ATA power connectors, but I know a hell of a lot more people who have had to use molex splitters or passthroughs because their PSU only has 6 Molexes.



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I'll eventually use 7...Once I fill all the drives...I am waiting for the 1 terabyte H/D to come down...the only connector that is useless to me is the floppy...I wish they would eliminate...and make the floppy connector just an adapter to a molex...I never install a floppy...

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neither have I heard of anyone who's had a problem with a PSU and it been ambiguous

Your kidding right?...


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No. It's usually been a pretty terminal 'pop' or a decaying voltage. Both seem to me to infer internal faults with the circuitry. Granted that sounds a little ambiguous, but I've never seen any case of a PSU failure where it could potentially have been something to do with the modular connectors.
I agree on the floppy power connector. I still have a floppy drive in my PC but I haven't used it for over a year, and it's remained unconnected for almost as long.
However, a lot of DFI boards still use them for power to the chipset I think, so maybe that's one of the reasons they still keep them.



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Floppies still have some use. They're dirt cheap and if you want to pass along small files it's cheaper than using CDs and DVDs. Plus they're reusable. A friend of mine in real estate uses them for clients to take pictures home to view later for properties they're interested in. I still run across a floppy I wonder about the contents on. With floppy drives so cheap, I still put one in my PCs. I've seen instructors ask for documents to be presented on floppy. Doing a "paper" and putting it on floppy is a lot easier to carry around than a copy on paper and with a decent monitor easier to read. Old tech, but it still comes in handy for some. With the cost of memory cards, I don't want to be passing those out with the possibility of not getting them back.


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You can turn a school paper in on a disk now days?..man have times changed...


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Yeah... In the olden days the instructors wanted papers typed, then they went to wanting them turned out with laser printers, now they want it on digital media. It's still the instructor's call though. Lucky for the younger generation there's no need for antique typewriters.


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I had to do typed in college...Home PC's were just coming out...No one had a PC of course...


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A couple of years ago I had to get my grandad a PC because nobody sold ribbons for typewriters any more...



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I still have my Old IBM Selectric...Got I hate type writers...if you made to many errors...you had to start all over...


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I'm eyeballing a new mobo...

http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l...655&modelmenu=1

How much of a problem do the JMicron controllers present?


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AFAIK loads of stuff uses Jmicron controllers... never heard of any problems.
In fact, my raptor's attached to S-ATA port 7 on my mobo, which is a Jmicron I think - it's still as rapid as it ever was.



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I've read at random forum where the JMicron controllers create problems with ODD's whether SATA or PATA, and yet others claim to have no issues. It might just be luck of the draw, or getting things right the first time.


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Hmm, I've never had a S-ATA optical drive, and I use onboard IDE controllers, so I don't know whether I'd ever find that a problem.



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I just ordered the Corsair 520HX from Buy.com for $79.00 with google checkout discount and $10.00 rebate.

Juggling between the Gigabyte board and ASUS board ATM...


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Nice, my Corsair 620W cost something like £90. We don't have rebates here, we just have to shop around harder :(



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I could have got the 620 for $109.00, but I didn't really think I needed it.


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Yeah, even the 520W HX is still around the £60 mark...



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LOCO
You know my opinion. ;) Good choice. You got all you need for a normal PC. That's more capacity than most stock PCs. The 620 is nicer to have if you're going to add some power hungry extras or think you might later.

As for the boards, ASUS mobos are usually a bit more user friendly. I'm not putting down Gigabyte, they're good boards too. It really depends on which offers the options you need. But for ease of setup and having built in safety, ASUS is one of the leaders, if not number 1. I suggest ASUS over the others for new builders.

Which boards were you looking at?


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Here is the ASUS board I'm liking, but as stated above I've heard there are issues with the JMicron contollers....I know it might just be luck of the draw, but my lucks never been that great. And the standard Gigabyte board of the moment it seems.


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It's another $60 or so, but check this one out:
http://www.directron.com/p5n32esli.html#caption
It has better (heavy duty) power management, better cooling, an nVidia chipset, and is SLI rated, just in case you want to enhance your GPU setup later. I don't know how tight your budget is, but to me the core items are the mobo, CPU, RAM, and PSU. Those are the areas where I'll spend the necessary bucks to get it right the first time. I've seen some cheap cases that flow well and the other parts are more or less plugin and can be upgraded as needed. Of course a good GPU is in the works for a nice board like the one I mentioned here. This is my board of choice for the C2D in the ASUS line. It's not a Striker, but it does a bang up job. This board can handle the power and keep on going.


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Still undecided about the mobo...hear alot about the design of the ASUS boards which blocks SATA ports and I like the extra SATA ports on the Gigabyte boards. So know on the big question.....Allendale, Conroe or Wolfsdale?


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Most of the time when you hear about blocked ports is when someone is using those big dual GPU setups. Then it varies from board to board. Simply look at the board and what you intend to install. I'm using ASUS boards and I haven't blocked any ports. Asus and Gigabyte are both favorites. Get a good one and you won't go wrong with either.

For myself, I'd use the Wolfdale, budget permitting. There you have the larger cache and new 45nm technology. With Allendale and Conroe, you're looking at different cache size on the 65nm technology. I'd go with the Conroe out of those choices. The Conroe is sort of middle of the road and probably a better bang for the buck with current parts prices.


 
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