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HOW to read your XBOX's EEPROM and GET the HDD KEY WITHOUT removing the chip Or Modding the XBOX
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4. April 2007 @ 13:26 |
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hey thanks alot that really helped me ans saved me alot of money if i could ask you for help throught this process that would be great
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4. April 2007 @ 13:33 |
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also would you recommend doing this or putting in a mod chip. i plan on soft modding it when i get my new hd. i already soft modded the old one but it broke
email @ paintballcrazy@gmail.com
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daspazz
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4. April 2007 @ 14:26 |
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ask away!
And why waste money on a mod chip. I am soft modding everything. With the xboxhdtools image I have it build the HD with the softmod installed. Then I just lock the HD install it in the xbox and add games. It's is fast and easy.
I the bad thing is the package I use is like 220 megs to download. I can't host a file that large anywhere for free.
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teejmang
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7. April 2007 @ 11:42 |
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hello anyone..
after several times reading this through, i found it quite difficult to get it going..
so. this is an eeprom reader? how do you write it?
my xbox powers up, shows christmas lights, but no video, audio etc.
so.. can anyone tell me what i have to do? i will try and assemble this eeprom reader maybe.. but i have looked in other forums, and think i need the eeprom writer. im not sure though. im puzzled..
could anyone help??
(i know. everyone asks for this, but thatnks if you can)
pm me.. or email me.. lickastick18@hotmail.com
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w13rd0
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7. April 2007 @ 12:19 |
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yeah if you get Christmas lights and no av then you need to check your cables and connection cause it only blinks like that when there disconnected
i always feel n00bish
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teejmang
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7. April 2007 @ 12:32 |
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Originally posted by w13rd0:
yeah if you get Christmas lights and no av then you need to check your cables and connection cause it only blinks like that when there disconnected
well, it blinks red green for 2 seconds, then its solid red.
is that the same?
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Dazzzzzzz
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12. April 2007 @ 03:34 |
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hey soz if someones already asked this but could you answer me this
I have an old xbox thats pretty screwed the hdd still works and hopefully the eeprom is still intact ! and while trying to softmod the xbox i am usin at the moment i screwed the hdd pretty bad and somehow rebuilt the whole thing thus losing the hd key... bumer... now the xbox wont accept the hdd and i dont have the eeprom.bin file.
rather than goin through the whole process of making a reader and getting the eeprom.bin file then decoding it ... and so on. I was wondering if i could de-solder the eeprom off of my old xbox and put it in my newer one and use my old hdd ??
Any ideas ?? thanx
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conundrum
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12. April 2007 @ 04:08 |
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I think desoldering the eeprom and sticking it in your xbox is a very bad idea. Making the reader takes about twenty minutes, getting a read from the eeprom takes about 5 minutes.
De-soldering and resoldering can be quite difficult. If I was in your shoes I'd make the reader.
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janrocks
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12. April 2007 @ 06:18 |
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I don't see any reason why just swapping the eeprom wouldn't work.
there is some other xbox specific info held in the chip along with the hdd lock details. It relates to xbox-live. But you shouldn't be on there with a modded box anyway.
If you think your soldering skills are up to it then do try.. Post back with results.
For writing to an eeprom.. There should be no need, and anyway if your eeprom dies it's very hard to source another eeprom.bin file which is xbox compatable.
With the right software the reader should be able to write to the eeprom as well..
http://pic18fusb.online.fr/wiki/wikka.php?wakka=I2CserialEEPROM
http://codesink.org/eeprog.html
I have tools built in to my OS which can handle i2c read/write
As I know not many people know very much (if anything) about this technology here is some more reading..
http://www.embedded.com/story/OEG20010718S0073
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kalamaf
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12. April 2007 @ 07:13 |
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I have an xbox here with a dead hard drive. The box is un-modded and the owner doesn't want it modded. If I build this reader will I be able to re-build another 8gb hard drive to work in his machine without modding it?
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Dazzzzzzz
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12. April 2007 @ 07:15 |
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Yeh man thanx a lot ill try it and get bak 2 ya
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janrocks
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12. April 2007 @ 07:42 |
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@ kalamaf
That is exactly why this article was written. To repair a stock xbox without modding it in any way. Saving paying M$ the stupid money for a pretty simple job.
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kalamaf
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12. April 2007 @ 08:12 |
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@janrocks
Excellent! So I'm assuming it's possible to use any size HD in order to make room for more custom soundtracks etc.? Or is an un-modded system restricted to the 8 & 10gb original drives?
edit: My Radio Shack rapes us on pricing.. the PCB was $3.99 and the wire was like $4.99 (same catalog numbers as those posted previously in this thread) and they didn't even have the resistors/diodes.
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daspazz
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12. April 2007 @ 08:29 |
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Yes you can put any size drive back in. But an unmodded xbox will not take advantage of the larger drive.
An xbox only uses about 8 gigs of any size drive you put in it.
Modding it allows you to use more drive space for storage and other things. Plus it allows you to run homebrew and burned games or ISOs off the hard drive.
Why does your buddy not want to mod his xbox?
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kalamaf
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12. April 2007 @ 09:02 |
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Originally posted by daspazz:
Why does your buddy not want to mod his xbox?
I think it's mostly due to xbox live, he doesn't want to risk losing his account since he plays online most of the time.
Myself I have a chipped xbox with an 80gb in it but I only play games like once or twice a year, XBMC is my primary use just for streaming video from PC to TV.
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Grimmest
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12. April 2007 @ 23:00 |
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Hello everyone.
I came to this tutorial after a failed attempt to fix a softmodded xbox hdd. My preferred method is using a modified xboxhdm, and hotswapping the drive over. I took a look at friend's xbox that was bought 'Used' at a GameStop store because he said it was having problems. It wouldn't boot to the MS Dashboard but it would play a game if it was in the drive when the xbox started up and some games wouldn't play on it at all. I knew all to well what that meant. Someone who owned the xbox previously attempted to softmod the xbox and failed. Upon further investigation I found that I was correct. The drive in the xbox wasn't a stock xbox hdd. I attempted to hotswap the hdd and precede to re-softmodding it. Well that was cut short by the hdd shorting out due to a 'stupid' piece of metal that happened to be sticking out if something it was set down on. So I went looking to see if there happened to be another way to retrieve the eeprom.bin information from the xbox. I have to say I am excited to see that something like this was put together so well. I have purchased most, if not all, of the parts needed for it.
This is what I bought.
RadioShack (Prices are Jacked up on items around here too)
The RadioShacks around here do not use, or offer, a catalog.
(It is a bit lame)
Grid-Style PC Board - Same one from this Tutorial
D-Sub Connector (9-pin) - Same one from this Tutorial
20ft 24awg Rainbow Wire (White, Black, Red, Green)
D-Sub Hood (to make it look nice once it is working)
Heat-Shrink (to make it look nice once it is working)
E.D. Supply Co. (They are an Eastern Shore Electrical Supply Store)
NTE135A NTE Electronics - 2x Zener Diode 5.1v ±5% 1W
(Since they don't readily make 4.0K Ohm Resistors)
Philips ECG Flameproof Resistor - 2x 4.3K Ohm ±2% 1/2W
Color Bands (Yellow, Orange, Red, Red, Blue)
It probably was more expensive then it needed to be.
Either way, I have a couple of questions about this before I build my EEPROM reader.
I wanted to find a way to attach to the IC Chip easily and on a non-permanent basis. I ruled out using the LPC connector because, (1.) the 1.6 xbox LPC is broke, unlinked, out of the box, and (2.) because I prefer to have one setup work for all. The only logical way is to connect directly to the IC Chip. So I went digging around. A retired engineer explained wire-wrapping to me, but it seemed too tedious. I came across IC Test Clips, first the individual ones, these seemed close to what I wanted but I figured they have a moderate chance of shorting to the leg beside the one they are attached to. I finally came across a SOIC-8 Test Clip. 3M and Pomona make them. One is the Pomona 5250 and the other is referred to as the 3M SOIC 8 Test Clip.
1. Is using this Test Clip a good way to connect to the EEPROM Chip?
I read through this thread numerous times and a question keeps coming up in my head.
2. If your motherboard is not bad, can you still use an external 5v power source while having no power attached to the xbox through the power supply or will this screw something up on the motherboard?
If you can apply a 5v power source to the EEPROM Chip of a working xbox.
3. Would the 5v from an USB 2.0 controller be sufficient or practical?
USB 2.0 is 5v with 500mA MAX
(Some controllers may nag and limit output to 100mA)
If USB power is out of the question.
4. What would be a recommended power source rating? (In volts and amps.)
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daspazz
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13. April 2007 @ 04:35 |
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Originally posted by Grimmest:
Hello everyone.
I came to this tutorial after a failed attempt to fix a softmodded xbox hdd. ......... I finally came across a SOIC-8 Test Clip. 3M and Pomona make them. One is the Pomona 5250 and the other is referred to as the 3M SOIC 8 Test Clip.
1. Is using this Test Clip a good way to connect to the EEPROM Chip?
Cool Idea!! I am using small clip on test leads and I either clip onto the LPC holes or the legs of the eeprom. Unless the MB is 1.0 then I have to solder small leads into the solder filled holes and then I clip onto them.
I may have to get me one of those clip on leads, how much were they?
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OUCH!! The Pomona is outrageous @ 60.00
The 3M is much more reasonable!! @ 12.00
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I read through this thread numerous times and a question keeps coming up in my head.
2. If your motherboard is not bad, can you still use an external 5v power source while having no power attached to the xbox through the power supply or will this screw something up on the motherboard?
You should be able to always use external power. But you have to disconnect your xbox from AC power if you do use external power. Otherwise you risk damaging components due to having two power sources.
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If you can apply a 5v power source to the EEPROM Chip of a working xbox.
3. Would the 5v from an USB 2.0 controller be sufficient or practical?
USB 2.0 is 5v with 500mA MAX
(Some controllers may nag and limit output to 100mA)
If USB power is out of the question.
I think it should be enough, but you can also use a drive power cable connector and just break out the 5 volts and not the 12.
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kalamaf
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13. April 2007 @ 09:10 |
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Well, I got most of the parts, but I'm still short 1 5.1v diode, I've been to every repair shop in town and could only find 1. Have to wait a week for their next order to come in. Ugh. I do have a bunch of various dead electronics laying around.. tvs, monitors, xbox, ps2, etc.. any chance I'd be able to find one in one of those?
I'm still very much a newbie when it comes to this stuff and would love to take some electronics repair courses, but the closest schools teaching it are a 4 hour drive away. Considering doing through correspondence, but don't know if it's worth the money. Err, sorry for the partial derail here =)
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nanu-nanu
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13. April 2007 @ 09:35 |
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Could this same concept be used to read the HD DVD?
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janrocks
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13. April 2007 @ 11:37 |
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5v from a usb will be fine.. the diodes are to protect the eeprom from the 12v rails thrown out of the pc. The eeprom will only draw µA 's from the rail.. I suggest a 1k limiting resistor in series with a 5v usb rail. The device seems to be more reliable when the eeprom is powered from an external power source rather that a fragging or incorrectly booted xbox psu.
As for the clips.. can't say one way or another. I would just tack some kynar wire http://www.netpcdirect.co.uk/kynar_wire.php (should be able to scrounge some off somebody) onto the legs. (I'm a demon with a soldering iron)
To read the codes on surplus zener diodes this guide should help.
http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Read-Zener-Diode-Code&id=40081
Don't know what the reference to HD-DVD is about... random post?
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1272allan
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16. April 2007 @ 03:29 |
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conundrum can you send me the eeprom reader if you live in the uk
i can send you an sae and p.o for 6 pounds
ive been trying to read my key for 4 weeks now i have an x box no hard drive as it was broke i have striped thge x box ready it has not been moded
thanks allan
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Yamato200
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16. April 2007 @ 18:49 |
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My friend you are the most smartest man alive and I have the exact same problem, except I'm stupid and messin inside the Xbox just throws me off is they any other way that is just a little bit more convenite of doing this. Sorry don't mean to hate on your other Tut I'm just stupid. LOL
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kalamaf
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24. April 2007 @ 16:03 |
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Well, I now have all my parts, had to order 1 of the 5.1v Zener diodes in. After looking at them a little closer, the diodes are a little different in size. The first one I picked up was from a repair shop, not in a package or anything so I have no idea if the guy even knows what it's rated for.
How do I test it to see if it's 5v? Does it matter if they're exactly the same? I've got a cheap little radio shack multimeter but don't know what to look for when testing a diode.
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25. April 2007 @ 19:39 |
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it does matter because it only allow that much power to go through and if more that that goes through it could fry ur eeprom and u might have more Zeners in a radio most likley and older radio>
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janrocks
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25. April 2007 @ 22:36 |
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How to test a zener diode.. get a small 6v or 9v battery.. put a 5k limiting resistor in one of the wires..
Connect a multimeter across the wires after the resistor.. Full battery voltage? Good.. Now connect your zener across the wires. One way round the voltage will drop to almost 0, the other way round it will only drop to the zener voltage, whatever that may be. Don't go using a crumping big battery.. a couple of pc cmos batteries throw out more than enough curent.. a few watch batteries will do, whatever you can lay your hands on..
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