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BrickzNY
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25. January 2008 @ 09:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi i need to press up copies
of my product it's a documentary

And I realize there is alot available to us along the lines of
blank dvds you got RW, -r, +R Ink Jet Printable, DVD9 (Dual Layer)

but....

I want to purchase the same type of blank dvd's used in the movie industry ...i want it to be able to hold atleast 8.5GB (compacity)

I need it to be inkjet printable so i can proffesionally label it with graphics using the (Dymo DVD/CD Printer)

I also want the bottom of dvd (where the disk is read)
to be silver in Color for Authenticity

And just the like the ones you see in stores...I want them to be compatible with any standard dvd player

I want them to be 100% professional

Please only answer if you have knowledge of this subject..any information is appreciated ..Thanks
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25. January 2008 @ 10:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think you are mixing up a few things.
First, like you say, pro DVD is pressed. This is an industrial process not done by burners.
You cannot get disk with silver bottom, because burnable media has different colour, depend on material used to produce disk.
Rest, like ink jet printable, DVD5, DVD9 is no problem, just purchase good brand and you are OK.
Compatibility is newer 100% guarantee, because each player is slightly different.
If your burner or software can book type DVD to DVD-Rom, it will be more acceptable by standalone players.
The best burning software, specially for dual layer (DVD9) is ImgBurn (free).

http://www.cdr-zone.com/reviews/dvd_media_reviews/

Other possibility is to find DVD processing plant which will make you DVDs. You can do search for that.

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@BrickzNY
Like Suba says, you must be mixing some things up...uslualy the pressing equipment(creating the glass master, stamping the discs...) I think costa somewhere around milions. I doubt that's whay you are talking about, as I don't think someone would have a setup like that and be cluless about where to get his discs from.

http://www.supermediastore.com/cd-dvd-st...eplication.html

http://www.pacificdisc.com/PricingAmarayDVD.html


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25. January 2008 @ 10:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As Suba has rightly said there's no such thing as "Professional DVDs". The ones used in Industrial production are pressed from two separate layers with the Data already encoded onto them. Their not burnt like you do at home.

Almost all DVD+R/DL media has a purple/violet/dark blue hue on the recording side because of the chemicals used to produce them. That can't be changed.

Depending on the player in question a certain recordable DVD may or may not be compatible it depends on the format of the DVD, what formats the player supports and how old it is.

No DVD±R/RW/DL is compatible with EVERY single standalone, internal, external, portable DVD player.. ok, your just going to have to accept some players don't like certain discs.

In a nutshell, generally DVD+R's are far more compatible than DVD-R's, especially when it comes to standalone (Home Theater) DVD Players. DVD-R was the first type of DVD media on the market, as such it uses older, less reliable technologies that are not recognized or compatible with the newer players of today.

Booktyping your DVD+R's to DVD-ROM is only useful for backed up DVD films, generally this will make them more compatible. However since you want to use Dual Layer DVDs (8.5Gb) you can't booktype those to DVD-ROM.

Taiyo Yuden (Japanese) is widely regarded as the highest quality manufacturer of recordable DVDs. They give the highest quality scores on quality tests, burn well even at the highest speeds and still last years down the track. You can buy them online from most good online retailers. Have a look...

Hope this helps..


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25. January 2008 @ 10:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
There is such thing as "Professional DVDs". There are tons of DVD replication companies. Usually you need to order at least 1000(not cost effective otherwise). They will press the DVDs for you.

http://www.sfvideo.com/

I think the OP wants to have his pressed(replicated), not burned(duplicated) like you guys suggest.


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25. January 2008 @ 10:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
understood...Thanks for the replys

my set up is

1. HP - 20x Internal Double-Layer DVD±RW/CD-RW Drive
2. Dymo DVD/CD Printer

i'm asking ...


is there source to obatain Blank DVDs that are
1. at least 8.5GB
2. Inkjet Printable
3. and silver in color (on the bottom)
4. That is playable on any dvd player

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25. January 2008 @ 10:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by BrickzNY:
understood... i appreciate the replys i'm going to clear this up
when i said (press) them up i meant just make professional duplication available for distribution through my company

really what i'm asking is where can i get the same dvd discs that are used in commercial releases that the movie industry uses..

I want to do this myself to cut out the middle man so i can save money
my set up is a

1. HP - 20x Internal Double-Layer DVD±RW/CD-RW Drive
2. Dymo DVD/CD Printer

so what i need to find is a source to obatain Blank DVDs that are
1. at least 8.5GB
2. Inkjet Printable
3. and silver in color (on the bottom)
4. That is playable on any dvd player
Still not right...the part "the same dvd discs that are used in commercial releases that the movie industry uses" and "I want to do this myself to cut out the middle man so i can save money my set up is a
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, they don't go together.To have the discs made "like the ones the movie companies use", you need to have them pressed by a professional DVD replicating company, you cannot do it yourself.

If you want to burn the movies yourself,is not gonna be the same as what the companies use.


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Originally posted by Amir89:

Booktyping your DVD+R's to DVD-ROM is only useful for backed up DVD films, generally this will make them more compatible. However since you want to use Dual Layer DVDs (8.5Gb) you can't booktype those to DVD-ROM.
I have to disagree with you on this one.
I use DVD+R/DL with ImgBurn and all are booktyped to DVD-ROM.
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25. January 2008 @ 11:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by BrickzNY:

is there source to obatain Blank DVDs that are
1. at least 8.5GB
2. Inkjet Printable
3. and silver in color (on the bottom)
4. That is playable on any dvd player
I do not think you understand.
You cannot get burnable disks with silver bottom.

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25. January 2008 @ 11:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Suba:
Originally posted by BrickzNY:

is there source to obatain Blank DVDs that are
1. at least 8.5GB
2. Inkjet Printable
3. and silver in color (on the bottom)
4. That is playable on any dvd player

If the only purpose is to make them "look like professional", just by using a disc with silver dye, I think you can buy online TY's that are that way.
And yes, DL+R will booktype to ROM.


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25. January 2008 @ 11:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
understood...but like i said before i don't want to go through the companies i understand i can't get the exact same discs used in the industry ..what i want is the "NEXT BEST THING"
I want the disc to look professional as possible

i want a blank dvd thats

1. at least 8.5GB
2. Inkjet Printable
3. and silver in color (on the bottom)..ive seen them before
4. That is playable on any dvd player
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25. January 2008 @ 11:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by cyprusrom:
Originally posted by Suba:
Originally posted by BrickzNY:

is there source to obatain Blank DVDs that are
1. at least 8.5GB
2. Inkjet Printable
3. and silver in color (on the bottom)
4. That is playable on any dvd player

If the only purpose is to make them "look like professional", just by using a disc with silver dye, I think you can buy online TY's that are that way.
And yes, DL+R will booktype to ROM.
I do not know about TY/DL, because that is something new, but TY-DVD5 are not silver either on the bottom only on top.
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25. January 2008 @ 11:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Exactly i just want it look professional


i need a blank DVD-R that holds 8.5GB
and is inkjet printable
thats silverin color on the bottom layer as u mentioned instead of purple,blue, or what ever other colors they come in

THANKS for the replys!

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25. January 2008 @ 11:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I do not know if the Taiyo Yuden DL are available yet.

http://www.bitburners.com/archives-05-07...-dvd-r-dl/3538/

and like Suba says, probably there is no such thing as "silver dye", is an organic purpleish colour, I think it needs to be that way to react to the laser.
My mistake.



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25. January 2008 @ 11:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
well were deff. on the right path

they should have a blank dvd thats silver on the bottom
i mean they sell blank cd with silver bottoms

its just if you come with a disc thats not silver or tan on the bottom
people think its bootlegged and thats bad for business

they have to be out there it don't make sense to have a color scheme
in order for the disc to function properly
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25. January 2008 @ 11:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, they do have silver bottoms CD-Rs, but again, the laser for a CD-R is different than for a DVD-R. Best thing to do is contact one of the big online ,edia retailers (supermediastore, rima...) and they should be able to tell you if what you need is atainable.


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25. January 2008 @ 11:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I think this will answer your question:

http://www.dvd-supply.com/whydodvdreme.html


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25. January 2008 @ 12:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hmm.. well i'm growing to except the fact the blank dvds will not have a silver bottom

so moving on.. where can i find a blank disk thats

8.5GB
White Inkjet Printable

I found one thats
DVD+R Double Layer (Dual Layer) White Inkjet Printable 8.4GB 2.4x Speed DL Recordable Media by Ridata

but from what i'm hearing is DVD+R don't always play in dvd players
because of compatibility errors from what i heard DVD-Rs are more sufficient

but.. it would be nice to find a disc that is RW as well with those features mentioned above

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25. January 2008 @ 12:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Lol... try just about ANY Computer/Electronic Hardware store.

Dual Layer DVD's are plenty, you can get Inkjet ones too. Just look around mate.

As for DVD+R/DVD-R difference's did you read what I said before?

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No DVD±R/RW/DL is compatible with EVERY single standalone, internal, external, portable DVD player.. ok, your just going to have to accept some players don't like certain discs.

In a nutshell, generally DVD+R's are far more compatible than DVD-R's, especially when it comes to standalone (Home Theater) DVD Players. DVD-R was the first type of DVD media on the market, as such it uses older, less reliable technologies that are not recognized or compatible with the newer players of today.

Booktyping your DVD+R's to DVD-ROM is only useful for backed up DVD films, generally this will make them more compatible.



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25. January 2008 @ 13:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
my bad i didn't see your post ive gotten so many replies
i passed by yours by mistake thanks for reply
i really do appreciate it ..learn something new everyday
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Originally posted by Amir89:
Lol... try just about ANY Computer/Electronic Hardware store.

Dual Layer DVD's are plenty, you can get Inkjet ones too. Just look around mate.

It is not a matter of just DL DVDs, he wanted some with silver bottoms, to look just like the proffessional retail pressed ones.


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Originally posted by cyprusrom:
I think this will answer your question:

http://www.dvd-supply.com/whydodvdreme.html


Thanks for this web site, I was looking for it, but could not find it.
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Originally posted by cyprusrom:
Originally posted by Amir89:
Lol... try just about ANY Computer/Electronic Hardware store.

Dual Layer DVD's are plenty, you can get Inkjet ones too. Just look around mate.

It is not a matter of just DL DVDs, he wanted some with silver bottoms, to look just like the proffessional retail pressed ones.
Yes I saw that Cyprus but we made it clear that the purple/violet hue is present on all DVD's because of the chemicals used to produce them. I haven't seen or heard of any recordable DVD's with custom coloured recording dyes.
They are violet because the colour of the laser diode and the way the chemicals react to ultraviolet light hitting the disc. Having a different colour would require a different laser wavelength to be used which isn't exactly going to happen any time soon..


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25. January 2008 @ 18:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
+RW media can also be booktyped,and it has more of a gray color.

Inkjet Printable +R DL: You're talking about $2.40 a disc for verbatim:

http://supermediastore.com/verbatim-doub...able-95123.html

You can also check out meritline.com and rima.com.

By the look of their picture,they don't look like Full Hubs. Full hubs look more professional than the regular hubs.

Now if you could sqeeze them onto 4.7 gb single layer discs,you'd have more options for inkjet printable media,especially the awesome Taiyo Yuden Watershields,only in the dash format.


Compatability is going to be the main issue. You gotta booktype them,but your HP may not have that capability. You may have to get a quality booktyping drive.


BrickzNY: What is the actual model # and current firmware version of your HP drive?

Some HP drives are rebadges.They have been made by Liteon and Benq in the past.Some of their Rebadges can be set to booktype.I'm not sure about their newer drives.

Their own ligitimate drives-very poor IMHO. Low compatability,high coaster rate,very few-if any future firmware updates. Very good readers, but not quite as fortunant for high compatable backups.




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