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Jailbirdt
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27. August 2008 @ 08:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello everyone, this is my first post in this great forum and I decided to write down my prob here since there are so many people with good ideas and some nice tutorials.
So here is my problem and I hope you can help.
I have a slim ps2 SCPH 77004 (bought a year and a few months ago). It is modded with modbo chip i believe , i am too lazy to open it to find out as it works perfectly and my motto is if it works don't touch :D (the guy from the store i bought it swears it is a crystal modchip although it displays modbo logo on boot!!!).
Anyway here is the problem. I have recorded almost 70 games (98% are dvds) on my pc. All of em work smoothly and now this strange problem came up.
One particular game I had in cd, Legends of Wrestling , used to work great for a year until a few days ago the strangest thing ever happened, I instert the disk, and just before the Modbo Logo the console directs me to the browser screen which displays my mem card (original sony) on the left and a "PLAYSTATION 2 DISK" on the right (I suppose it still recognizes it as a ps2 disk).
So i thought "bad disk". That game i had rent from a videostore and copied with alcohol 120% version 1.9.sth (it's been a year and I updated my software a few times so cannot remember..) with proper settings and it worked perfectly (as a matter of fact I even finished the game several times).
So in order to save money to myself i thought i could download the game and burn it as I have done with other cds and dvds. I dare say I have some experience with ps2 and recording games as I used to mod both psx and ps2 (i have worked in console stores for a few years) and I rent a lot of games which need iso rebuilding (like tekken 5 and gran turismo 4) or in later stages they crash.
So I download the game, 6 rar parts, unrar 'em, mds and mdf files. "Piece of cake" i thought. So I load alcohol 1.9.7.6221 ,on my newly bought optiarc AD-7203A dual layer recorders (i got 2 identical) and burn the game. Everything smooth. I put it on console and SAME PROB EXACTLY!!!!!!!! Now is it strange or WHAT?? The downloaded and the rent game? (The copy from the rent, the original one still works great). I thought it has to be sth with the game but all of a sudden? So i started testing. I wasted over 25 disks.
Lemme give you every other detail you may need.
First of all, for my dvds I use TDK +R 4.7gbs which work perfectly.
For my CDS I use Hewlett Packard (the blue ones) which work perfectly as well. However, the game was initially recorded on hp disk but the downloaded one i recorded it to tdk and creation and sony [ran out of hp :( ].
My software on my pc is alcohol mentioned and nero 8.1.1.0 micro , nothing else having to do with iso/dvd ripping/cracking etc etc as I never needed any (except some applications for iso rebuilding which i uninstalled some time ago as I always download games since last december).
I tried eveything except re-renting the game and copying it. Plus as I said I 'm out of hp disks, store will have more tomorrow.
As a test, I copied another game (street fighter ex3) from hp disk to tdk and it worked great so i don't believe the brand is the prob.
Tried every single method provided in the forum and read the entire ps2 cd (and the dvd ) backup discussions: burned at lower speed, changed disk brands, configured manually ps2 alcohol recording settings (tried in nero as well to change settings), raw dao mode etc, track mode, disk form and length, converted to iso/nrg/ccd etc etc you name it i did it, (i have to admit it came to me strange that the downloaded one does not let you choose the datatype when writing in alc), re-downloaded, used other software (clonecd, ashampoo and several others), disabled and reenabled the chip (note: console works perfectly with chip enabled or disabled, laser too and reads anything, dvd movies, audio cds, ulaunch application with other files, even the network connection), cleaned the lens (although unnecessary).
To sum up, console works great, all other games work great (cd and dvds, copied or downloaded), my pc and software all work great, used every method found on net (even converted ps2 cd to dvd which worked!!!!!!!!!).
My last step is to re-rent the game and use hp disks although i repeat, it is highly unlikely the brand is the issue. If I re-rent and the prob is again (which is most probable) what do you suggest?
Maybe the disc speed? However no strange noises heard.
Thanks in advance.

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4. September 2008 @ 08:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Welcome and I must say that is one long post there.

But after reading it all, seems you have done most everything you can do.

When you say you insert the disk and it shows " Playstation 2 Disk" on the right, do you then click on that disk and does it load.

I guess if all other disks work fine, there must be something wrong the downloaded game. Maybe try a different one.

I would think if its an .mdf file then to use Alchohol to burn it at 12-16x speed.




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Jailbirdt
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4. September 2008 @ 10:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
First of all thanks for replying.

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When you say you insert the disk and it shows " Playstation 2 Disk" on the right, do you then click on that disk and does it load.
Yes it loads for a second, black screen and again back at the same screen with "Memory Card" on the left and "Playstation 2 Disk" on the right. Nothing.

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I guess if all other disks work fine, there must be something wrong the downloaded game. Maybe try a different one.
The strange thing is that it happened on the first place with the copy from the rent one (!!!!!) as I said in the original post.

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I would think if its an .mdf file then to use Alchohol to burn it at 12-16x speed.
Done that. And nothing. And I also downloaded MArvel vs Capcom 2 CD image mdf mds from mininova, burned it at MAXIMUM and it worked great. So it could be from the downloaded image (although noone else reported such a prob from the other 200 downloaders) but y same prob with COPY from ORIGINAL? Problem with game backup in general? And y the copy worked at first?

Again thanks for replying and sorry for the long post :(

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