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24. February 2006 @ 02:46 |
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Again you are reading the benchmarks wrong.
First bar graph:
On Architecure AMD wins not Intel
On Cballs AMD wins not Intel.
On Single pipes AMD wins
On Volume light AMD wins
On Stadium AMD wins
On underwater AMD wins
Second Bar graph:
Tracer Number Radiosity AMD Wins
Tracer Radiosity AMD wins by small margin
Radiostiy reflective AMD wins (Smaller numbers are faster)
Raytrace AMD wins.
Third bar graph:
Power Director 3
Mpeg2 AMD wins
DiVx 5.2 AMD wins
Mpeg 1 Intel wins
Bar Graph 4
TMPEG Power DVD copy
Power DVD copy Intel Wins
S-Video CD AMD wins
DiVx 5.2 AMD wins
Xvid AMD wins
Bar Graph five, Video studion 8
Intel wins them all.
You're reading the graphs wrong because they measure time in seconds and the faster CPU will have less seconds or smaller scores. In other words if AMD completes its task in 10 seconds and Intel in 15 then AMD is faster by five seconds.
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24. February 2006 @ 05:27 |
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Spider,
I don't know where my brains are. It's not the computer or the cpu! Check your power settings. Just R click on the desktop, L click screensaver and go to power. What's happening is various things that the computer uses are shutting down because they are not being used. When the computer calls for these things, there is a pause while they are loaded again. I'll bet that when you maximize the screen, there is a pause and the hard drive light stays on bright for a few seconds. Also check the power settings in your bios. I usually turn these settings off and let windows APM handle things.
Hope this helps.
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theonejrs
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24. February 2006 @ 05:51 |
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The freeze in WMP's visualisations is a random thing that occurs with numerous machines. It occurs with both of mine, I wouldn't worry about it.
At present, there is nothing that intel can do any better than AMD, full stop.
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24. February 2006 @ 10:51 |
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You are reading the bars totally wrong. You keep telling me that the longers bars are worst and I understand that totally. AMD is the green bars. The AMD is the one with the longer bars. Please observe the bars carefully since you have the information totally opposite. You have teh AMD and Intel mixed up. Not a big problem but you really should look at the graphs more carefully. You keep telling me that shorter bars are better which I understand but you don't realize the short blue bars are all Intel tests.
sammorris
You are right about the WMP visualizations randomly freezing. At first I thought it might be due to the clock speed of the AMD's causing it to not refresh and continue the visualization fast enough but now I think its just something that randomly occurs. I dont mind it that much.
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24. February 2006 @ 11:30 |
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I did mis read the colors, but in every test that I've read AMD is all around faster.
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24. February 2006 @ 12:01 |
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Again you are reading the benchmarks wrong.
LOL! You've been argueing for 2 days about me being wrong and misreading the bars and not knowing how to tell the difference when in essence the whole time you were reading it incorrectly. Goes to show you need to be careful when reading things (especially graphs). You should know that AMD is green and Intel is blue. The blue men that advertise for Intel is the reason the bar is blue and most of the AMD boxes are green therefore the green bar. LOL. Don't worry, I won't be an asshole and rub it in ur face. :D .
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24. February 2006 @ 13:47 |
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Damn straight lol, but yeah it makes sense to have AMD green and intel blue in the same way ATI red and nvidia green, it's just something that's obvious.
Just to reiterate though, buy AMD. Intel don't have a single processor to beat AMD any more.
Economy: Sempron64 beats celeron
Midrange: Athlon64 beats Pentium 4
Extreme single core: A64 FX is in a league of its own
Dual core: X2 vs Pentium D? No contest. X2.
Intel's next cores will have to be seriously good to get back in the game, people are going to notice that AMD are better sooner or later, and eventually Dell and Gateway will notice. Hewlett Packard already have.
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25. February 2006 @ 06:36 |
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Only on that one test on the rest of them I was right. I wou'd've responded earlier but I've been in the middle of a build. I still stand that AMD wins just about everything and when overclocked it leaves Intel in the dust on everything, even if the Intel is also overclocked. AMD has much greater head room. My system will take any Intel running on Air made.
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2.0 Front Side Bus
What is a 2.0 frontside bus?
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25. February 2006 @ 06:52 |
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The question now becomes how fast is fast. How much speed do you need to do your normal PC chores? If you are surfing the net should your PC be your biggest concern or your Broadband connection? How much speed do you need to lead the pack when it comes to PC's? Two years ago I had one of the fastest PC's on air until AMD made their move with Dual Core. In a few months other chips will come out that will beat the pack once again so having the fastest today might not mean the fastest tomorrow. One thing's for sure, the more money you have to spend on a system the better your chances are of maintaining the Top Dog position! <G> The CPU, Board, Memory, etc. manufactures will always be the biggest winners of all!!!
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25. February 2006 @ 07:28 |
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The debate is not about individual speeds, it is about the performance of product line. I do a lot of video encoding and the greater the speed the less time it takes. I use CCE which is a pro quality encoder. On a P4 sytem it can take 2 and half to three hours to complete a single encode but on my Opteron it takes between 44 and 67 minutes and that's a lot of time saved.
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If you are surfing the net should your PC be your biggest concern or your Broadband connection?
For me it's both. I have a Fiber optic's connection to the internet 5/mb/s down and 2 mb/s up.
This is the bandwidth test that I just ran on two seperate sites.
4.8 megabits per second
Communications 4.8 megabits per second
Storage 588.5 kilobytes per second (my downlo
1MB file download 1.7 seconds
Subjective rating Awesome
URL: http://myspeed.visualware.com/
When: Sat Feb 25 12:24:38 EST 2006
Download: 5,164,216 bps
Upload: 1,866,856 bps
QOS: 99%
RTT: 36 ms
MaxPause: 12 ms
Test #: 1845947
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25. February 2006 @ 07:51 |
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I would agree with you on your decisions and in my case there is no debate as well since I?m in the; ?Just have to have it? category. :)
That?s one of the reasons that I?ve postponed my newest build until after mid year, waiting to see what develops with AMD and DDR2.
As far as Broadband the fastest available to us in my neck of the woods is currently 3.0 Mbps which really gives me an actual 2.5 Mbps down and 325 Kbps up. Bellsouth is supposed to have available soon in my area their 6.0 Mbps which would probably equate to 4.8-5.2 Mbps if we?re lucky.
The biggest speed increase for me as of late was the WD1500 with 16MB cache. I can easily see the difference from my ATA133?s with 8MB. I would highly recommend that WD1500 drive to anyone!
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25. February 2006 @ 08:01 |
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On the net I'd say it's the connection and then the PC. I was toying around with an old 400MHz P2 with 64MB PC100 SDRAM. It had an ethernet card, so I was able to hook to my DSL modem. I didn't do any time trials, but there was no noticable slowdown between it and the 3.4GHz P4. There's better video quality with the P4 and I don't have to worry about using up the RAM. So, even an old PC is faster on a DSL hookup than a new "speed demon" on a dial-up.
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Are the encode times for your system being OC(ed) or in a standard configuration for the system? Also, how many passes are you doing with the encodes? As for encoding times, I've noticed a wide variation. There appears to be different variables that affect time. Of course having a fast CPU and plenty of RAM is going to speed the process irregardless of the variables. That's just the way the setup works. I suspect your OC(ed) system outperforms stock AMD PCs as well as the Intel platforms. You have bragging rights, but your PC shouldn't be compared to normal out of the box PCs.
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25. February 2006 @ 08:06 |
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I could have ordered 15 mips down and and 2 mips up but I didn't see the point at this time. My downlads regularly hit depending on the site, speeds of 620 to 768 Kpbs. A 130 meg file takes about 6 to 8 minutes.
I know that I'm going to have to slow down a bit and learn to enjoy what I have but only after I get my system right to where I want it.
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25. February 2006 @ 08:10 |
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Sophocles
The 2.0 Front Side Bus is my FSB in GHz.
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25. February 2006 @ 08:14 |
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Here is the best that I can do with my 3.4 Northwood as of late. I've also included a newer memory test after playing with the settings for the LAST time until I build a new system. I still prefer to keep my 3.4 to a mild 10% for 24/7 on times.
This Sandra CPU test was at 3.80.
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25. February 2006 @ 08:29 |
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I have three AMD systems and not a one of them have problems playing music or DVD's for that matter. I have AMD XP2500+, AMD 3500+Venice core, and my opteron system.
What type of sound card are you using?
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25. February 2006 @ 08:32 |
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LOL. I didn't say I had any problem playing songs. I said that the visualization freezes for 1 sec sometimes. It's not a big problem since another member already confirmed that it's normal and happens to him too. But in case you want to know, I have Realtek AC97 onboard sound.
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25. February 2006 @ 09:06 |
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Hey Sophocles,
You have to admit, it sure is a neat looking board!
Whether I go with it or not is a good question. A lot depends on what Auto-Cad does with SLI. They are working on it!
Happy computering'
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25. February 2006 @ 09:06 |
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It's happened to me on the M360 with SoundMAX integrated sound, and on the XP 3000+ with all of:
Realtek AC97 Integrated
SoundBlaster External MP3+ USB
Guillemot Hercules Gamesurround Muse 5.1DVD PCI
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25. February 2006 @ 09:21 |
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It is a great looking board but in SLI it leaves only one PCI slot open and I can tell you right now that the cnps7700 is not going to fit because it will crash into the chipset heat pipe. I couldn't even use my corsair LLpro with it because it was too high, I had to go back to my old TwinX2048 3200C2
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25. February 2006 @ 16:58 |
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see how things do not make sence: here is my 3.2 prescott
what do you think?
p-4 3.2 prescott HT curently at 3.6/Abit IC7-G (Abit rule!)/2 Gig Mushkin extream 2.5-2-2-6
LG 20.1 FLATRON WIDESCREEN/BFG 6800 ultra@450 mgz/2 wd raptor 150 raid/Ultra 500 watt Direct connet ps
NZXT GUARDIAN CASE(BLUE)
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25. February 2006 @ 17:19 |
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Your DSL is fine, just the standard 1.5 Down and 350 up like most ASDL services.
As far as your scores, you've O/Clocked to 3.6 just like I O/Clocked to a normal 3.74.
We both need to move to AMD Dual Core if we want to run with the big dogs!!! LOL
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25. February 2006 @ 17:26 |
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What was it that didn't make sense. The ISP type is an estimate based on speed. A T1 line is 1.5 mbps up and down. If you have cable or a really fast DSL connection you are capable of reaching those speeds for downloads.
My fastest speeds are around 720 to 760.
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25. February 2006 @ 17:38 |
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And that with this.
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25. February 2006 @ 19:33 |
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Sophocles,
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I can tell you right now that the cnps7700 is not going to fit because it will crash into the chipset heat pipe.
I have the ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED 92mm 2 Ball Blue LEDn not the cnps 7700. I planned ahead! One of the things I considered Before I bought the 9500 was contact between the cooler and the cooling fins on the MB. I spoke to Asus and they assured me that if there was a room problem using the 9500, it would not be because of the MB. They said that they had tested that particular MB with the 9500 and it fits!
Happy Computering,
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