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The Ultimate Dream Computer
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Praetor
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29. May 2004 @ 22:11 |
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Ok computers are a rapidly changing field and this can lead to some nice discussions. Essentially, spec out the best money can buy! (gosh this is making me drool as it is). To avoid too much conflict both AMD and Intel chips/mobos can be accepted as the #1 chip (i.e., list both if you'd like to be a diplomat hehe). Same goes for ATI vs nVidia. This is meant to be a friendly drooling party rather than a corporate pissing contest :P
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AMD FX53-2.4Ghz (1600MHz)
INTEL P4EE-3.4Ghz (800MHz)
MOBO
ASUS SK8V
Chosen over nVidia's nForce3Pro because the NF3 only supports 650MHz (1300DDR) bus and has a different emphais (its a business oriented mobo)
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket940/sk8v/overview.htm
ABIT KV8 Pro
Another serious contender on the AMD side of things, Abit brings reliability and more recently, more OC headroom compared to ASUS.
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=176
ASUS P4C800E-Deluxe
The premier board for testing out Dual Channel memory, you cant go wrong with this baby. Not to mention the fact its the highest performing Canterwood board available.
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4c800-e_d/overview.htm
ABIT IC7-MAX3
The IC7 series stirred a lot of comotion amoungst ASUS circles when it came out as it offers a CRAPLOAD of functionality and reliability not to mention some seriously kewl features. If it wasnt for my undying love of ASUS, I would have switched to this already :P (assuming I went Intel of course :P)
http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=130
RAM
Corsair RegisteredXMS TwinX2048-3200 (3-3-3-8)
Registered memory for the FX peeps, nothing special except it does have some nice timings for PC3200. The stock heatspreader isnt that fancy but thats the price one pays for regsitered ram :P
http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/products/specs/twinx2048RE-3200.pdf
Corsair XMS Pro TwinX1024-4000 (3-4-4-8)
These babies are for Intel folks only and very very nice both in performance, looks and stock cooling
http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/products/specs/twinx1024-4000pro.pdf
OCZ PC3700 Platinum OCZ466-1024 (3-2-2-8)
What's there to say, these sticks are absolutely fabulous -- and they look fantastic.
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/OCZ_DDR_PC-3700_Platinum_Enhanced_Bandwidth_Dual_Channel
OCZ PC3500 Gold OCZ433-1024 2-3-2-6
One word describes the timings: stunning -- especially so for registered memory (meaning its for FX peeps)
http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/OCZ_PC-3500_ECC_Registered_Dual_Channel_DDR
VIDEO CARD
eVGA GeForce6800 Ultra Extreme Edition
Three words: close your mouth....
http://www.evga.com/articles/public.asp?AID=188
ASUS AX800 XT/TVD
Three more words: .... and stop drooling
http://usa.asus.com/products/vga/ax800xt/overview.htm
SOUND
Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro
Sometimes these naming conventions just get out of hand.... lol and excellent set all around still
http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?prodid=4925
PSU
Coolermaster RS450 (450W)
Premodded, effective cooling, open design to limit dust getting clogged and reliable rails, this PSU is an excellent deal all around.
http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=english&Language_s=2&url_place=product&p_serial=RS-450-ACLY&other_title=+RS-450-ACLY+Real%20Power&PHPSESSID=44b08d797d2500981a71d14c35f4b74e
Thermaltake Polo12 (410W)
Similar design as the Coolermaster (premodded and makes use of a 120mm fan), this baby comes with a front and/or rear mounted fan controller as well as some very nice case fans, an excellent PSU in any respect.
http://www.xoxide.com/polo12.html
HSF
Thermaltake Silentboost K8
This is the K8 version of Thermaltakes very effective Silentboost HSFs.
http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/venus/rs/a1838.htm
Thermaltake Venus12
This is the badass supercharged fan for the K8 procs.
http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/venus/rs/a1744.htm
Thermaltake DIY Tower112
The ultimate in quiet (or loud depending on the fan config), this is a highly adaptable HFS for both Intel and AMD applications
http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/comboCool/cl-p0024tower112/cl-p0024tower112.htm
CoolerMaster Jet4
For P4 chips, this blower gets around the deadzone introduced by traditional fans and has air flowing over the entire surface of the heatsink.
http://www.xoxide.com/comajet4p447.html
Thermaltake Polo735
Although this is a 3-in-1 cooler, it is most commonly found on Intel chips since AMD chips typically use the Venus/Volcano line of coolers. This is one loud mofo
http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/comboCool/a2144Polo735/polo735.htm
Thoughts? Ideas? Challenges?
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PCProd
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30. May 2004 @ 10:19 |
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Even though I am extremely dis-heartened with PC's at the moment considering my current woe's here's my 'dream' machine:
Mobo:
Asus PC-DL Deluxe. Dual Intel Xeon Processor board.
CPU's:
2 x Intel Xeon 3.06Ghz, 533 f.s.b
Memory:
2 x 2GB Kit 400MHz DDR PC3200 DIMM 3-3-3
Hardrive's:
1 x Western Digital 36.7Gb 'Raptor' Serial ATA150 10,000rpm 8mb Cache - for the system drive.
2 x Western Digital WD740GD 74gb Serial ATA 150 10,000rpm 8mb Cache.
1 x Lacie External Firewire Hardrive. 250Gb.
Video Adapter:
Leadtek Winfast A380 Ultra FX5950 256mb with TV DVI VGA Dual Monitor Full PVR with Video in and Direct Burn Hardware monitor for Overclocking...
Monitor's:
2 x Sony SDM-P232W 23ins TFT 0.28mm 1600x1200 @ 85hz Tco99 Audio With Digital (dvi-i)
DVD Drives:
2 x Sony 8x DVD DUAL R/RW IDE BURNER - if it's a dream machine why have 1 when you can have 2:)
PSU:
Tagan Quiet Dual Fan EPS and ATX PSU, 480W
See: http://www.quietpc.com/uk/psu.php#tagan
Case:
AcoustiCase C6607B Black Super Midi Tower
See: http://www.quietpc.com/uk/cases.php#acc6607
CPU Cooler:
CNPS7000A Super Flower Cooler (all copper) - Super Flower Cooler AMD and P4 CNPS7000A-CU
see: http://www.quietpc.com/uk/p4cooling.php
A couple of Super quiet case fan's - AcoustiFan? - Ultra-Quiet, Temperature Sensitive, Clear Computer Case Fans
See: http://www.quietpc.com/uk/casefans.php
I think that'd do it! Obviously to be able to build this machine money would have to be a very insignificant object............ but we can all dream:)
As for the AMD side of things I'm sorry to say I have no comment. Reason being is that I have done no re-search into that side of things as most music production software has been designed for and tested with the intel chips only!
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aXidburn
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30. May 2004 @ 14:29 |
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i would go with the amd athlon fx....can u put a dual athlon fx...do they make a mobo 4 it?
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Praetor
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30. May 2004 @ 15:54 |
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No they dont, the nearest thing are the Opteron 242s :) (that i know of)
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aXidburn
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30. May 2004 @ 20:33 |
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yo i could go for one of those 21 inch flat screen, flat panel moniters...that are like $2,000
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erichm
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30. May 2004 @ 21:12 |
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The amd FX 51\53 can be used in dual cpu motherboards. They are just read as opterons.
For the ram I would get the new corsair twinx1024-3200xlpro. Runs at pc 3200 at 2,2,2,5.
For a power supply I would get a pc power and cooling turbo cool 510 deluxe.
For a case I would get the nventive mach 2 gt.
http://www.chip-con.com/index.php?pageid=102
check that out.
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aXidburn
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30. May 2004 @ 21:38 |
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AMD athlon 64 3200+
ATI 9800 pro all in wonder
Memorex dual x format
ps2 v10, Magic V 5K6
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Praetor
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30. May 2004 @ 22:02 |
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The amd FX 51\53 can be used in dual cpu motherboards. They are just read as opterons.
The Athlon 64 FX also has only one non-coherent Hypertransport whereas the Opteron 1xx series has three. It depends if the motherboard expects more than one, so as a general rule, an Opteron 1xx can fit into an Athlon 64 FX motherboard but not always the other way around. Specifically there is a case with the Tyan S2885 (http://www.tyan.com/l%5Fjapanese/products/html/thunderk8w.html ) where only one proc is used, it must be the Opteron 1xx and a FX will work.
Also note that Opertons, being found in a server environment, require Registered ECC ram while FX chips only required Registered ram
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Wuggish
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31. May 2004 @ 03:25 |
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i would use the ati radeon x800 xt as it out performes the 6800 ultra
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31. May 2004 @ 03:51 |
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Praetor
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31. May 2004 @ 05:31 |
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i would use the ati radeon x800 xt as it out performes the 6800 ultra
In all fairnesss nobody can really say that the X800 outperforms the 6800 or the 6800 outperforms the X800 simply because both cards have their merits and both cards, in certian categories, destroy the other one. I guess it would come down to personal preference
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Wuggish
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31. May 2004 @ 05:52 |
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ok, they have the same performance, but the X800 is $150 cheaper than the 6800
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31. May 2004 @ 05:59 |
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but the X800 is $150 cheaper than the 6800
Yes but the premise for this thread was that cost wasnt an issue :P
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Wuggish
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31. May 2004 @ 06:18 |
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lol sorri, il put my basic dream machine in
athlon 64 fx53-2.4ghz
Corsair 1GB (x2)
ATI radeon x800 xt
Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro - (with some kick ass speakers and super woofer)
30" Monitor LCD3000/30" TFT
Thermaltake Xaser III V2000A
Windows xp media center edition
oh yea and a really comfy chair
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Praetor
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31. May 2004 @ 09:51 |
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Why that case? :)
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Wuggish
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31. May 2004 @ 11:48 |
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purely bcuz i think it luks cool and the colour (silver and red) fits with my room + i dont have a clu bout cases spec so i jus went 4 the luk..lol
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aXidburn
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31. May 2004 @ 17:37 |
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anybody hear anything about the windows xp 64 bit edition, or when it is coming out?
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31. May 2004 @ 17:45 |
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aXidburn: lets try to stay a tad on topic :) .... "isnt it already out"? :)
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aXidburn
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31. May 2004 @ 18:39 |
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its out in stores?!...hey its sorta on topic...cuz it would be on my dream/real computer..lol
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31. May 2004 @ 19:10 |
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Praetor
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31. May 2004 @ 19:23 |
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Nice stuff P: but you need an ATI graphics card on your list
Read my post again. It's there simply cuz I dont wanna get involved in a ATi/nVidia pissing contest.
Oh and if you look at Tom's reviews carefully, you might notice a bias AGAINST ATi. I agree with this bias but its still unprofessional and since then I dont put any faith in their reviews anymore (heck i dont even read them anymore).
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31. May 2004 @ 19:42 |
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I 'm not into the ATI/Nvida debate either since I use both freely or rather the one that is currenty the best "bang for the buck." Sometimes it's Nvida and sometimes its ATI. I've been reading Tomshardware reviews since 96 and I remember a time when Voodoos were top dog until Nvidia brought them down. when you stated you noticed a bias AGAINST ATi. I assume you meant the reverse and a bias against Nvidia? Only a few short years ago it was thought that they had a bias in favor of Nvidia. Both make good cards and if someone browsing the forum was swayed to buy one or the other of their quality units, it would still be a good recommendation and a safe buy.
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31. May 2004 @ 19:48 |
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it was thought that they had a bias in favor of Nvidia.
Well thats the same as a bias AGAINST ati :)
Yeah with their review of the GF6800 i noticed a slight (very subtle but present) bias AGAINST ATi and in FAVOR OF nVidia ... naturally this might be expected since they were reviewing the new nVidia Flagship card but still -- its unprofessional to do so... also, the Aquamark benchmarks were "flawed" (in both the nVidia and ATI benchmarks) -- look at the values on the axes -- both reviews have the same flaw -- what are the odds of that; either it was a (supposedly) highly unlikely error or they didnt put much effort into making either review. My two cents :)
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31. May 2004 @ 19:56 |
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The current reviews seem to favor ATI against Nvidia but the cards are so damn close in quality that their difference is largely irrelevant. I have more Nvidia cards in my old hardware archive than I do ATI's, but I'm fickle that way and likely to shift at any moment toward the current leader. Just ask my old Voodoo 2000 and 3000 sitting in the same box.
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31. May 2004 @ 19:57 |
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i am so pissed about video cards...i got the ati 9800 pro all in wonder...and when i got it, it cost like $500 dollers, it was more then 1/4 of my computer cost and now its down to like 300 or something
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