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Sense we on the topic of hard drives...i have a question in everest under the sensor tab..it does'nt show my forth drive why is that? but under the summary it does...

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Now under the summary tab in everest it shows everything

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if anyone knows the problem please let me know thanks

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Maybe the Maxtor doesn't report temperature. Is it on the mobo or a controller card? I'm not sure that would matter but it had to be asked. :P

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Everest can only show the temperatures of three hard disk drives if more than one is connected externally.



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Originally posted by greensman:
Maybe the Maxtor doesn't report temperature. Is it on the mobo or a controller card? I'm not sure that would matter but it had to be asked. :P

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the maxtor is on a card piggy backed along with the western digtal 320gb,but why the wd show and the and max don't? maybe the wd over powers it..lol

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The card may only pass through one temperature sensor, this is likely if the card was designed for RAID, even if you don't use it.



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I generally get temps of 31-32C on my HD753LJ, and about 38C on my Raptor, around 39-40 for the ones in my external enclosure as I run the fan at its lower speed, too noisy otherwise.

Here's a screen shot of my temps. The Computer has been on for several hours and it's not that hot today, it's only 28C/78F in here. Here's my current temps.


Both drives are running 35C. Cooler Master did a very poor job when it came to the front fan, as it's only an 80mm. To add to the small fan problem, you have to leave a bay in between the hard drives, or not enough air gets in between them, so the air blows under one and over the other. I'm thinking of putting the bottom drive in upside down as the only heat sink is on the controller side. This way both drives should get good airflow over the minimal heat sink they have. Which ever one is on top, it's stays cooler as things warm up. I know it's a strange question but is there any problem with putting the hard drive in upside down so that the controller sides face each other? I've never come across one installed that way, so that's why I'm asking.

Happy Computering,
Russ

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Hey guys, first i'd like to start off and say hi. I am completely new to this forum. I found this while looking for a site that has a forum about building computers and I found this one. I hope you are able to help. I'm new to building computers. I have never built one in the past. But I plan too now. I spent a great deal of time picking out pieces for a good build for gaming pc BUT now that I had selected all of them, I'm not sure if it is all compatible. Could someone help me and let me know if all of these will work together? Thanks in advanced!

I wasnt sure the easiest way to post this but I left links within the name to the item.

1. DVD DriveASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model DRW-2014L1T - Retail

2. CaseAntec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

3. HDWestern Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

4. Video CardBFG Tech BFGE88512GTSE GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retai


5. RAM CORSAIR XMS2 DHX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX - Retail

6. MotherboardEVGA 132-CK-NF78-A1 LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 780i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

7. Power SupplyRosewill RX850-S-B 850W ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V v2.91 SLI 8800GTX SLI CrossFire Ready Active PFC PFC Power Supply - Retail
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Hey guys, first i'd like to start off and say hi. I am completely new to this forum. I found this while looking for a site that has a forum about building computers and I found this one. I hope you are able to help. I'm new to building computers. I have never built one in the past. But I plan too now. I spent a great deal of time picking out pieces for a good build for gaming pc BUT now that I had selected all of them, I'm not sure if it is all compatible. Could someone help me and let me know if all of these will work together? Thanks in advanced!


Everything looks decent except the motherboard. I did a fast look on Google and this MB definitely has had more than it's share of problems. The nVidia chipset just seems to have problems that nVidia has yet to solve. It's not so much the motherboard as most nVidia chipset motherboards seem to have the same issues. Just Google EVGA 780i or EVGA 780i forums and you will see what I'm talking about. If you Google 780i chipset, you will get mostly the same links, just more manufacturers with the same problems. I'm not going to recommend anything because the manufacturer doesn't seem to matter, just the chipset and Intel chipsets only support crossFire. If you are thinking SLI in the future, then that means an nVidia chipset at the moment.

The top 6 manufacturers in Rank order, at the moment are: Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, DFI, Abit and Biostar. All have problems with most of the nVidia chipsets, that are not the fault of the motherboard manufacturer!

You also might want to consider this 8800GT Video card, if you are looking to spend less!

EVGA 8800GT 512MB DDR3 Video card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130347
Comes with an Akimbo cooler.

It's two slot and costs $104.99 after using the promo code EMCAKBBAE for $20 off, and a $30 MIR! Don't forget the Promo code when ordering!


Best Regards,
Russ

GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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Numbers 1 to 3, and number 5 are right, the rest need changing.

Use this motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128344
this graphics card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129112
this power supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139001



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ok peepz

I have a question, can you install windows media player version 10 onto vista OS? I just don't like the new WMP v11?
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I'm doubtful to be honest, I'd try using something different - media player classic, vlc, winamp, itunes, you have a fair few options...



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sammorris,
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Numbers 1 to 3, and number 5 are right, the rest need changing.


They are correct, much to my surprise, as of today!
http://www.canardplus.com/statscpuz-cm-en.html

Regards,
Russ


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Is the SATA port on the back of MOBO the same connection as the ones inside
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i will agree with Russ. that MOBO(evga) is very well known to have many a different problems. i know a tech at my local microcenter and he has said that board is the most problematic board he has ever seen/returned.

WOW SAM i cant believe my board has dropped that much in price.
if he wants the EVGA board I'm sure he is wanting SLI/crossfire. that board isn't that good for those features. it will do it but not at full power/max ratings. i wont suggest a board cause i don't know of any others, personly. lol

As for a case...you all know where im going...lmao
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

just my opinions here. not pushing anything on anyone(well other than GM)

started a new thread heres the link

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_jump.cfm/700687/4262339
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True, if they want to use dual graphics, I'd recommend them the X48-DS4 or Rampage boards, but you'd be surprised, most people pick SLI boards without realising, or saying "I might add another card later on" - they never do...



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@ikknight

first of all.i would like to say welcome aboard and glad to have you stop by the thread we are all here to help..the God Father of this thread(Russ) started you off with good pointers about the board that your looking at so sit back and listen and learn and do some research on different parts that make a custom built we call it not store bought..lol we all will come at you with different options but at the end it's your choice and your money so good luck on your first build

in your build 1 thing you failed to mention was the cpu...my choice would be for the cpu..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115054

i believe cincyrob would agree also with the choice..prove me if..i'm wrong cincy...remember ikknight you will need alot of air flow with such big video cards because they produce alot of heat and heat rises so pick you case prefectly one with alot of fans you can install and good heatsink..fan setup as well out and away fast..personally to me Cooler Master meets that mission in good air flow models 590,690,923,810 those are a few..i like don't get me wrong a few of the antec models do put me in the mind of Cooler master with there fan ports...

best of luck:)
Will

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Lol well spotted Will!



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Is the SATA port on the back of MOBO the same connection as the ones inside

It's a part of them. The Southbridge chip allows a maximum of 6 Sata ports. That's why some motherboards only have 5 ports inside, because the sixth is used for the E-Sata port on the back of the computer. I kind of like the 8 ports on mine as you can use the two GigaByte ports (Purple) for external drives and you can hot swap them, meaning you use the "Safely Remove Hardware" button in the taskbar to turn them off and remove them while the computer is running. Just plug one in and it initializes, and click the little Green arrow icon in the taskbar to remove them without having to shut down! Same thing as using a Flash Drive!

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To be more straight though, no, the eSATA is a different connector to the internal S-ATA connectors and thus requires a different cable.



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To be more straight though, no, the eSATA is a different connector to the internal S-ATA connectors and thus requires a different cable.

That depends on the system. The E-Sata on mine that came with the MB uses the same type of cable ends, with a separate plug for power! I highly recommend the Gigabyte ports for the E-sata because of the "Hot Swap" ability. I gather that the ones on the back of some motherboards are Hot Swappable, although I don't know for sure. I've used mine before and used the purple port to connect it, it's just like plugging and unplugging a flash drive! Simple, and it works well! It's still part of the total number of the ports though!

Best Regards,
Russ

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Neither the ones that came with my GB boards do, and I bet they're the same - they plug into normal S-ATAs internally, but have e-SATAs on the outside, which is why they provide you with eSATA to S-ATA adapter!



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Originally posted by sammorris:
Neither the ones that came with my GB boards do, and I bet they're the same - they plug into normal S-ATAs internally, but have e-SATAs on the outside, which is why they provide you with eSATA to S-ATA adapter!

I just looked at the two I have and they are different. That particular one must have been their first attempt at it! I'm going to put both in so I can use it with a bare HDD as well as a proper external. Best of both worlds! LOL!! For a guy like me that works on a lot of computers, it's a blessing to be able to take a bare drive and check it out without having to open my computer case to do it!

Best Regards,
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I've seen S-ATA to normal S-ATA brackets, but didn't realise Gigabyte used to do it that way, fair enough...



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Originally posted by sammorris:
I've seen S-ATA to normal S-ATA brackets, but didn't realise Gigabyte used to do it that way, fair enough...

It's funny, I never would have noticed if you hadn't said something! The second one I got came with a customer's MB and wasn't used! He dropped it off to me and asked if I wanted it! Now I finally know why every E-Sata plug I've seen was different! LOL!! Mine has two plugs, a standard Sata port and a Molex connector you plug in a Molex! My Mb came in an old P4 Titan box, straight from GigaByte, so it was probably just sitting around and they threw it in the box! I'll take it for the afore mentioned reasons! Best of both worlds! LOL!!

Russ


GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor


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The molexes are still used, and are both a fantastic and bad idea - fantastic because they're useful for powering internal components externally, potentially bad because of how easy they could short your PSU.



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