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30. January 2009 @ 13:47 |
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iceman69, stick with your own thread if all you are going to do is try to make larry's guide look bad.
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30. January 2009 @ 14:04 |
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Originally posted by iceman29:
Originally posted by larrylje:
I hate the fact that users are to lazy or not smart enough to GOOGLE the WAD file since it contains official code from Nintendo and can not be added to the files or linked at this site.
Understand those are the rules but why? Is it illegal to have? How can these other sites do it but afterdawn can't?
Yes it is illegal to host or link to official Nintendo code without their permission. As for the site it is there choice to make it against the rules. They are just protecting themselves.
It is actually illegal in the USA and other contires to mod the Wii System (or any other intellectual property that has copy protection).
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30. January 2009 @ 14:49 |
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Originally posted by larrylje:
Originally posted by iceman29:
Originally posted by larrylje:
I hate the fact that users are to lazy or not smart enough to GOOGLE the WAD file since it contains official code from Nintendo and can not be added to the files or linked at this site.
Understand those are the rules but why? Is it illegal to have? How can these other sites do it but afterdawn can't?
Yes it is illegal to host or link to official Nintendo code without their permission. As for the site it is there choice to make it against the rules. They are just protecting themselves.
It is actually illegal in the USA and other contires to mod the Wii System (or any other intellectual property that has copy protection).
Then how can this site allow it to have guides on an illegal act? Makes no sense.
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30. January 2009 @ 15:25 |
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There is no law against guides on modding anything.
Whether having a modchip or otherwise modding your consoles is illegal in your country or not, people are going to do it anyway.
So why not have proper methods in which to do it.
It is the file that is in question? The file contains Nintendo Code, so therefore it is not linked to this site.
My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 30. January 2009 @ 15:32
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iceman29
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30. January 2009 @ 17:01 |
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Originally posted by smokyrain:
There is no law against guides on modding anything.
Whether having a modchip or otherwise modding your consoles is illegal in your country or not, people are going to do it anyway.
So why not have proper methods in which to do it.
It is the file that is in question? The file contains Nintendo Code, so therefore it is not linked to this site.
I was more talking about some of the ios files that pothsprojects.com includes in their packs. Larry says it's illegal and you say it's not. Not sure why it's illegal to mod a box that belongs to you as long as you are doing anything illegal. I thought you could have backups of games as long as you own them.
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30. January 2009 @ 17:15 |
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Originally posted by iceman29:
Originally posted by smokyrain:
There is no law against guides on modding anything.
Whether having a modchip or otherwise modding your consoles is illegal in your country or not, people are going to do it anyway.
So why not have proper methods in which to do it.
It is the file that is in question? The file contains Nintendo Code, so therefore it is not linked to this site.
I was more talking about some of the ios files that pothsprojects.com includes in their packs. Larry says it's illegal and you say it's not. Not sure why it's illegal to mod a box that belongs to you as long as you are doing anything illegal. I thought you could have backups of games as long as you own them.
Under the fair use act you do have that right to make backups BUT the DMCA says it is illegal to circumvent copy protection and. So in order to make those backups and play them you will break the law under the DMCA.
Using the excuse I bought the system so I can do what I want with it is not a legit reason in the laws eyes.
This is straight from the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement website... (government site) http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/newsreleases/...1washington.htm
In any case we are getting off track. So if you want more information google the DMCA and read what it says.
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30. January 2009 @ 17:41 |
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Originally posted by larrylje:
Originally posted by iceman29:
Originally posted by smokyrain:
There is no law against guides on modding anything.
Whether having a modchip or otherwise modding your consoles is illegal in your country or not, people are going to do it anyway.
So why not have proper methods in which to do it.
It is the file that is in question? The file contains Nintendo Code, so therefore it is not linked to this site.
I was more talking about some of the ios files that pothsprojects.com includes in their packs. Larry says it's illegal and you say it's not. Not sure why it's illegal to mod a box that belongs to you as long as you are doing anything illegal. I thought you could have backups of games as long as you own them.
Under the fair use act you do have that right to make backups BUT the DMCA says it is illegal to circumvent copy protection and. So in order to make those backups and play them you will break the law under the DMCA.
Using the excuse I bought the system so I can do what I want with it is not a legit reason in the laws eyes.
This is straight from the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement website... (government site) http://www.ice.gov/pi/news/newsreleases/...1washington.htm
In any case we are getting off track. So if you want more information google the DMCA and read what it says.
Pretty interesting. Then how can afterdawn be legal? There is nothing about how to mods on here.
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30. January 2009 @ 17:51 |
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Originally posted by iceman29:
Pretty interesting. Then how can afterdawn be legal? There is nothing about how to mods on here.
It isn't against the law to tell someone how to do it.
As well it is the users responsibility to know the law wherever they are located before performing the steps the guides walk them through.
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30. January 2009 @ 22:51 |
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Well at least on this subject I can add my two cents...I have a law degree and years of practice and larrylje is correct folks..one can say anything..it the completion of the act which in the eyes of the law makes it "defacto" rather than "dejure"! The old "if but for".........then this would not have occurred. All of this is perfectly legal..so far.
Regretfully, my apprehension suggest strongly that this will change under the current court & administration. Furthermore, the injury & disease I sustain now preclude me from continuing my practice. However, I remain steadfast & determined to fight the good fight whenever possible to ensure at least the smallest degree of our civil rights remains intact.
My Little Problem..LOL
I'm writing tonight to ask a simple question guys...everything works well...no black screens or such neg. things. A few hours ago my lady was preparing for her Wii Fit Workout. She put the disk in and the upper left corner square was suggesting that she update the Wii board.
Didn't know if doing so would ruin all the apps. & files just put in to tweak this puppy. Please advise as what my options are or is this just something I can do without worrying about "bricking" or messing up all the prior work from yesterday!! Oh, BTW..haven't seen anyone talk about how to prevent another update like [update to 3.5] Thanks in adv.
Right now ---even after doing the HBC & WiiGator sys. flip[larrylje tut.]it still reads 3.4U..please don't tell me I have to do this all over again..I didn't think it was sys. update because right now my Wii still reads 3.4u even after I made all the changes in the tut. and it playing so far all [3] backups perfectly!!!
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31. January 2009 @ 00:56 |
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@ flamingo5
What system firmware is your wii on right now?
Looking at anther post in this section on the wii fit update, it looks like the update is for the balance board.
The only way to block disc updates is too be on System 3.2 and install "starfall" that I know of unless you have a modchip that has a config disc to configure no system updates.
My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS
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4. February 2009 @ 23:31 |
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Hi guys. I did the hack and installed cios and homebrew ok. I'm getting dvd read error 324 though. The disc is DVD+RW. I have read that they are unreliable. I am about to try a DVD-R tomorrow.
Is ther anything else I can try?
How do I know if I have the OCT 23rd 3.3 firmware?
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5. February 2009 @ 00:17 |
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Originally posted by bertnurne:
Hi guys. I did the hack and installed cios and homebrew ok. I'm getting dvd read error 324 though. The disc is DVD+RW. I have read that they are unreliable. I am about to try a DVD-R tomorrow.
Is ther anything else I can try?
How do I know if I have the OCT 23rd 3.3 firmware?
The error is more than likely the media you are using.
As for the Oct 23rd update, are you able to use the Wii Shop channel or does it ask you too update.
My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS
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buklaosat
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5. February 2009 @ 15:06 |
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hi larrylje, i completely followed all you're instructions also did the oct 23rd fix and everything installed completely well i am still getting a dvd read error i'm using verbatim dvd-r discs for my backups at 4x burning speed I cant figure out what the problem is
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5. February 2009 @ 16:00 |
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Originally posted by buklaosat:
hi larrylje, i completely followed all you're instructions also did the oct 23rd fix and everything installed completely well i am still getting a dvd read error i'm using verbatim dvd-r discs for my backups at 4x burning speed I cant figure out what the problem is
If you have everything installed properly then it should work.
Things you can try...
Get different media (Believe it or not there are some that have had issues with Verbs as well).
Make sure your DVD burner has latest firmware installed.
Try using another DVD burner (rule out a faulty burner issue).
Make sure you have a good ISO dump of the game.
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buklaosat
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5. February 2009 @ 16:45 |
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Originally posted by larrylje:
Originally posted by buklaosat:
hi larrylje, i completely followed all you're instructions also did the oct 23rd fix and everything installed completely well i am still getting a dvd read error i'm using verbatim dvd-r discs for my backups at 4x burning speed I cant figure out what the problem is
If you have everything installed properly then it should work.
Things you can try...
Get different media (Believe it or not there are some that have had issues with Verbs as well).
Make sure your DVD burner has latest firmware installed.
Try using another DVD burner (rule out a faulty burner issue).
Make sure you have a good ISO dump of the game.
It prolly might be my media, ill try different media, ISO dumps are good, and my dvd burner is a usb dvd drive by LG my other dvd drive manufacturer isn't even in business anymore so my LG is the best shot i have, any recommendations on what other media i should use
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5. February 2009 @ 17:44 |
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Did you even try using the other DVD burner?
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buklaosat
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5. February 2009 @ 17:50 |
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yes I did, gave me read error
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bertnurne
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5. February 2009 @ 22:03 |
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So I tried a Sony DVD-R, and I get the message "the game disc could not be read" If I eject it, it says 'Please insert the mario kart wii game disc'. So it is reading it enough to know what game it is.
Tried cleaning it,no joy.
I read here that Wiigator has problems with Mario Kart, so I'm trying Mario Galaxy tomorrow (dvd burner is in work)
Any other suggestions?
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5. February 2009 @ 23:35 |
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My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS
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bertnurne
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5. February 2009 @ 23:40 |
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I burned it with Nero at 2x
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5. February 2009 @ 23:51 |
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If you get a chance try burning with imgburn at 4x speed.
My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS
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bertnurne
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5. February 2009 @ 23:56 |
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Cool, I will. Cheers man. There's a lot of variables in the equation. The burner looks like a cheap one, I'll check the manufacturer tomorrow.
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6. February 2009 @ 00:02 |
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Mario Kart should work fine with WiiGator Gamma. You can find the compatibility list HERE.
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bertnurne
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6. February 2009 @ 00:14 |
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I find the graph hard to read. It says Yes/No for 1:1 backup. Is No for U region?
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6. February 2009 @ 00:42 |
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Originally posted by bertnurne:
I find the graph hard to read. It says Yes/No for 1:1 backup. Is No for U region?
I can't tell for sure either.
Tell you what. I have a Wiikey 2 modchip and I also have homebrew installed plus the wiigator channel.
So I know for sure it works with my Wiikey 2, but will test it out using the wiigator tomorrow as my kid is sleeping right now.
My consoles: Nintendo64>Dreamcast aug/99>PS2 V7-Seagate 400gb hdd-Maxtor 300gb hdd,PS2 V14 FMCB 1.8 - Memor32 >V18 SM 3.6 >DS-Lite-G6DS Real 16GB-R4DS Ultra 8gb SDHC>Gamecube-Original>Wii-Wiikey 2>PSP PHAT CFW 5.00 M33-6>DSi (Kingdom Hearts Edition)-EZ Flash Vi - M3i Zero Sakura>Kindom Hearts:Birth by Sleep PSP 3000>PS3 80GB. WiiU PS4 XBOXONE 3DSNDS
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