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14. October 2010 @ 01:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah that's a pretty familiar sight! It's amusing how sleek the HAF looks behind it in the background, well I say sleek, that's if you ignore the ivory-bezelled optical drive!



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LOL!!! I've thought that the white-ish drive looks kind of funny with all the black. Funny thing is, its arguably my best drive too.

Although my LG BD burner is probably my best now ;)



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The OCD in me says buy a new bezel for it. I've filled the hole in my HAF again now I have two working fan controllers and the DVD drive is back in, but the irony is, last time I used the drive I had to take it out as it wouldn't read the windows DVD properly when plugged internally, I think the SATA cable was bad, so I had to use it over USB with the crappy Dyanmode enclosure I had. Said dynamode enclosure caused my server a BSOD and then a failed POST earlier this week, when I was trying to use it. Ugh.



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OCD lol.

I didn't like the idea of buying a white drive. But at the time, the 7200S optiarc drives were really scarce. I was lucky to get what I did. And VERY great-full for it now. It's proven to be a very good reading drive. I could probably paint it too. Properly done, it wouldn't be difficult. But black plastic and black paint would probably still look different. Besides, one of my 7200A's will probably quit in the near future. I work them like dogs LOL! And since the drives are virtually identical, I can use the parts for the 7200S.

Sorry about your enclosure. That sucks! I think mine was simply a bad USB connection. Time will tell.



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I have a decent IcyBox enclosure, but it's a hotswap "toaster style" unit, so it can only take 2.5" and 3.5" drives, not 5.25" opticals.



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I'll probably be looking into buying devices like that in a years time. I'll likely replace my 1Tb drives with 2Tb drives, and then want even more ;)



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That replacement procedure is the exact reason I bought the hotswap box :)



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Heck yah. I totally see the benefits there. To not have one is ludicrous LOL!



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I just hotwired the suspected power supply. Was quite surprised that it powered a 12V light bulb. Though the bulb I powered isn't even one amp, the power seemed stable. I've seen supplies that powered the bulb, with intermittent power(rapid blinking). I'll hook it back up tonight, and see if it was simply a seized fan causing the fowl up. I've had that happen before...



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Seized fan indeed. At least that's what I suspect. It started everything up tonight. I'm betting that the CPU fan wasn't turning, preventing the system from starting up. Had to replace the CPU fan though. The old one was quite obnoxious :p

I sure love the satisfaction that comes with discovering a problem, and fixing it. I wouldn't mind doing it professionally. But not yet. Perhaps I can post ads on craigslist, claiming the ability to fix any computer problem. I wonder if that would be considered a business though, in that I would have to pay taxes for said business...



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I have two 500GB hdd's, A & B for simplicity, that are copies of each other. This afternoon I formatted B and copied everything on A over to B, and now B has 156GB free while A only has 104GB free. Anyone have any ideas as to why there's a 52GB difference, it just doesn't make sense to me?


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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Seized fan indeed. At least that's what I suspect. It started everything up tonight. I'm betting that the CPU fan wasn't turning, preventing the system from starting up. Had to replace the CPU fan though. The old one was quite obnoxious :p

I sure love the satisfaction that comes with discovering a problem, and fixing it. I wouldn't mind doing it professionally. But not yet. Perhaps I can post ads on craigslist, claiming the ability to fix any computer problem. I wonder if that would be considered a business though, in that I would have to pay taxes for said business...
Oman7,
Craig's list is fine as long as theres no shipping involved. UPS (now called OOPS) destroyed a brand new computer on me about a month ago. I couldn't even understand why the driver would even have delivered it in the condition the box was in. If I had been home I would have refused it! I was nice about it though, and only hit them for the case. I could have gotten them for the motherboard and the CPU. Whatever it hit, actually ripped the CPU cooler and CPU far enough out of the socket against the spring plate that it bent the first row of pins on the CPU when it snapped back into place. Gigabyte replaced the board and I managed to repair the damage to the pins on the CPU. Still, it also cost $54 to ship it back to Mass. It went back double boxed, and arrived safely! Still, it took me a month to get the money for the new case!

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Implying that UPS' failures are the fault of craigslist... Even newegg use UPS...



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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
I have two 500GB hdd's, A & B for simplicity, that are copies of each other. This afternoon I formatted B and copied everything on A over to B, and now B has 156GB free while A only has 104GB free. Anyone have any ideas as to why there's a 52GB difference, it just doesn't make sense to me?
that's very weird. Is A your OS drive?



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That can happen sometimes. Run disk cleanup on both drives, and make sure everything has copied over. If it's all there, run Sequoia on the drives to identify what's using the missing space.



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I think it's just down to drives being formatted with different sector sizes. I see the same free space difference across a few (identical) drives with identical data. It could also be 'dynamic' discs vs 'basic' discs. I don't pay it any mind personally, hence why my answer may not be 100% correct.



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Originally posted by theonejrs:

Oman7,
Craig's list is fine as long as theres no shipping involved. UPS (now called OOPS) destroyed a brand new computer on me about a month ago. I couldn't even understand why the driver would even have delivered it in the condition the box was in. If I had been home I would have refused it! I was nice about it though, and only hit them for the case. I could have gotten them for the motherboard and the CPU. Whatever it hit, actually ripped the CPU cooler and CPU far enough out of the socket against the spring plate that it bent the first row of pins on the CPU when it snapped back into place. Gigabyte replaced the board and I managed to repair the damage to the pins on the CPU. Still, it also cost $54 to ship it back to Mass. It went back double boxed, and arrived safely! Still, it took me a month to get the money for the new case!

Russ

Sorry to hear that russ. Some drivers definitely need a talking to ;) When things are obviously damaged, we're supposed to stop the progress of a package. E.g. sounds like broken glass, visibly damaged, leaking liquid, etc. Some damages occur not by people, but by collapsing walls(MY box walls are award winners). I heard recently that a tornado got hold of a UPS train car. I wonder if that's what happened to your package. Long shot, but possible.



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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
I have two 500GB hdd's, A & B for simplicity, that are copies of each other. This afternoon I formatted B and copied everything on A over to B, and now B has 156GB free while A only has 104GB free. Anyone have any ideas as to why there's a 52GB difference, it just doesn't make sense to me?
Sounds alot like this...
http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-111/..._use_of-869555/

And my thought was sector size like creaky said, but 60GB+ is a heck of a difference

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Whoops!, i didn't pay attention to the (huge) difference in size there :o, that'll teach me to not skim-read



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My Motherboard and video card arrived this morning. I know where I'll be spending my weekend! LOL!! I get my baby back! Hooray!

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I understand why sometimes, it's easier to just reinstall windows, and just start over. I have my system acting funny lately, and no idea why. Well...almost no idea LOL! I know that one of my sata channels causes a considerable lag, when disc burning with it. But next to that, I also have a curious lag/hiccup happening at regular intervals. Sure wish there was a utility that could point out exactly whats causing that. Because it doesn't appear to be CPU intensive. I'm wondering about the north bridge. I think I'll change all my clock settings to normal tonight and see how it behaves. But I tried that in the past. Perhaps there's something faulty about the mainboard, that's making itself more pronounced now. Time will tell ;)
It looked as though the CPU was waiting for the lag to stop, to continue at one point today. Very curious...



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Originally posted by shaffaaf:

that's very weird. Is A your OS drive?
Nope, both are independent data drives.

Originally posted by sammorris:
That can happen sometimes. Run disk cleanup on both drives, and make sure everything has copied over. If it's all there, run Sequoia on the drives to identify what's using the missing space.
Disk cleanup says that I can free 0 bytes so I'm guessing there's nothing there to free. What is Sequoia? I did a quick search but didn't turn up anything useful.

Originally posted by Deadrum33:

Sounds alot like this...
http://forums.afterdawn.com/t.cfm/f-111/..._use_of-869555/

And my thought was sector size like creaky said, but 60GB+ is a heck of a difference
Does seem similar, although I'm not using a raid card; I manage my backups manually.

Checking the properties of the root folder on each drive correctly shows them to be the same size but the drives are still showing a 52GB difference.


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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Does seem similar, although I'm not using a raid card; I manage my backups manually.
Checking the properties of the root folder on each drive correctly shows them to be the same size but the drives are still showing a 52GB difference.

Size difference between raid card partition and external data backups was what flagged me to this issue. I originally thought the card might be an issue, but since we are having the same problem perhaps not?

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Sequoia (full name SequoiaView I think) is a graphical illustration of what space is being used up on a particular drive.
http://w3.win.tue.nl/nl/onderzoek/onderz...n/sequoiaview//



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There's also a very simple yet powerful program called JDiskReport that you can use




But personally i much prefer to knock up a temporary Samba share and mount the drives in linux, it's ery quick and easy to figure out what's what



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