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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition
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26. August 2012 @ 08:53 |
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Good luck on the solder job Sam! Have been using my home-repaired X38-DS4 for over a year without issue *knock on wood*
I also am a bit peeved about the Retina Displays. It's not like Apple has a patent on LCDs over a certain resolution... or do they? Just watch, somebody will release a product with one and Apple will sue :P
IN all seriousness though the retina display on my iPad 2 is incredible but again, the ole' iPad is due for a visit to the firing range :)
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26. August 2012 @ 09:06 |
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The explanation I was given was that - try using windows on a retina display. It's only really possible with your head about as close to the display as it would be if you were sending a text/email from your phone. For a sizeable PC display, that's just not realistic.
But of course, we don't need the full 300dpi resolution, just somewhere in between. e.g. 2880x1800 at 24" would be 140dpi and that would be good enough for a lot of uses, or 3840x2400 at 30", again, 150dpi. That would be ample.
Fortunately the 30" 2560x1600 displays already have a good 101dpi, but still, having 3840x2400 pixels on a display is perfectly doable now, graphics cards support it, windows kind of suppports it (it turns out the lock screen in windows only supports a hardcoded max res of 2560x1600!), interfaces support it with displayport or HDMI, so why don't the displays exist?
What I'm hoping is for Apple to produce a Cinema display with displayport that offers this sort of resolution quality. That will either present a viable option to purchase, or get other manufacturers interested in manufacturing said displays.
Interestingly, Intel thinks this sort of display tech will actually start becoming common next year. I sincerely hope their prediction is accurate!
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26. August 2012 @ 10:16 |
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Really not interested due to the inherent demand of running things at those resolutions.
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26. August 2012 @ 10:20 |
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Not so much for running games (although a couple of older strategy games I can think of would be pretty spectacular at that res), it's more just desktop real-estate. Being able to work with windows that large makes a lot of previously impossible things realistic.
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26. August 2012 @ 11:53 |
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Yes please! Hurry up and begin producing mega resolution monitors! LOL!
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26. August 2012 @ 11:54 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Yes please! Hurry up and begin producing mega resolution monitors! LOL!
At an affordable price. Such things do exist, just not for less than 5 figure price tags.
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26. August 2012 @ 12:00 |
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Sorry. I do mean in the typical sense. E.g. Newegg for 300 - 600USD :p
SLI/crossfire could become quite commonplace if such resolutions become abundant ;) Imagine running Crysis on a super res display!
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26. August 2012 @ 12:05 |
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Supporting Jeff's argument, running Crysis at 2560x1600 is challenge enough for now!
Stuff like this adds to the argument:
Personally, I don't think Crossfire/SLI can ever really be the answer for it. We really need a modular stream processing interface to come into existance - have a master output card and then just attach additional (ideally speaking also with an external option, to eliminate internal power/heat/space constraints) stream processing units you can plug in with a cable/into an extra PCIe slot.
To actually pull off top-tier titles from a couple of years from now (assuming that's when 4K monitors become buyable at the top-end of the consumer market) with a fluid frame rate, you're going to be looking at a requisite 10-20x fold increase in rendering power over the current best single GPU. Not happening any time soon :P
Also, what about 120Hz or 3D?
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26. August 2012 @ 12:13 |
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I haven't seen the difference in 60 - 120hz. Not saying it doesn't exist. I'm saying I haven't SEEN them compared. The only electronic shopping I do is online ;)
Ha ha! I've been thinking of a form of modular processing unit for some time now! It shouldn't be a problem to add on a secondary CPU/GPU via PCI-e. Granted it probably couldn't be solely handled by windows/OS. It would probably need intervention from the bios as well ;)
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26. August 2012 @ 13:16 |
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The difference between 60 and 120 is very readily apparent for me. It has much more of an effect with video than games, for what it's worth.
Also, Sam, holy crap, is it a memory limit? Any unnecessary settings a la Witcher 2's "Ubersampling"? As of right now that seems like an impossible title even for super top-end hardware. Crysis was never that bad even relative to the hardware available at the time...
Also FXAA sucks hard and is the most horrible looking thing ever conceived. Every time someone recommends enabling it in games I'm like "are you effing blind man?" It's like smearing Vaseline on a fogged up lens. PC gaming is getting a glut of noobs with no clue about graphics lately...
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26. August 2012 @ 14:26 |
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Could loose motherboard stand-offs cause a PC to not start up? Because originally I thought the PSU was faulty. But I prime 95'd for a while without troubles. This is a system that somebody said I could have. I also however reset the Ram. He handed it to me, said it wouldn't run. Initial run froze upon entering windows. It was then that I re-seated the Ram. I also made sure the Electrical cord connected to the PSU was very good. I've had one instance in the past, where this was an issue. Seems to run fine now though. I swear, whenever I try to find a problem, it disappears.
Clearly the builder of this PC, only finger tightened the Stand-offs. Not good enough in my opinion.
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26. August 2012 @ 16:37 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Could loose motherboard stand-offs cause a PC to not start up? Because originally I thought the PSU was faulty. But I prime 95'd for a while without troubles. This is a system that somebody said I could have. I also however reset the Ram. He handed it to me, said it wouldn't run. Initial run froze upon entering windows. It was then that I re-seated the Ram. I also made sure the Electrical cord connected to the PSU was very good. I've had one instance in the past, where this was an issue. Seems to run fine now though. I swear, whenever I try to find a problem, it disappears.
Clearly the builder of this PC, only finger tightened the Stand-offs. Not good enough in my opinion.
Oman7,
Looks like a vibration issue then, as in the loose stand-offs! :)
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26. August 2012 @ 17:10 |
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Well, I may never know exactly what it was. I have it pieced apart for selling now :p
Thanks Russ.
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26. August 2012 @ 22:13 |
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reseating the ram more likely cleaned the ram contacts thereby making system stable. standoffs won't do that unless grounding the board causing board not to post.
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26. August 2012 @ 22:38 |
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I've had stand-offs ground the board out and cause that problem many times so stand-offs are a possibility but so is RAM sticks not properly seated too.
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27. August 2012 @ 00:12 |
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Also have had stand-offs ground the board out on a few machines if they are loose. They wobble and touch the sides of the holes on the board. When properly installed they pull tight and center themselves.
I snug my standoffs with a bit driver.
Omega, recently had a problem with stability as well and it turned out the RAM needed the contacts cleaned and reseated. Would crash quite often and failed to POST at times. Just cleaned the contacts with an eraser and it ran Prime 95 for 12 hours overnight and into the next day.
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27. August 2012 @ 00:44 |
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Thanks for you opinions guys. I love hearing from the experienced ;) Never heard of using an eraser on Ram contacts. Does make sense though. I still wonder about a flaky PSU though. I'm probably gonna just strip the supply for it's copper content. I have a little side hobby that I use the copper for. One day, I may post about it LOL! I certainly wouldn't sell it, and I won't trust it in my own setups!
I may elect to use the PC Case for my secondary. Needs a paint job though. I have an interesting idea. Perhaps I'll post about that too one day ;)
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27. August 2012 @ 02:18 |
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On some cases I've had to go to plastic or insulated stand-offs as it wasn't that they wobble but more so their alignment to the board. A friend found this to help as well when he had some board issues like mine.
Erasures are great for cleaning up all sorts of contacts on connectors too! It's an old trick from before even my time, that's a long way back!
I've painted many of old beige cases to revive them for use today and it works well when prepped properly and use of good paint. I haven't powder coated any yet but that is next on my list to do!
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28. August 2012 @ 08:33 |
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So just been guaranteed a 1090T when my buddy gets back from Enfield, UK. He's been hinting at selling it for a long while but hasn't seen the need to upgrade. He's convinced he wants Bulldozer for no other reason than being a shameless fanboy and he has a Zalman ZM850HP XD
Even better for me because due to my failing CPU I have been looking at alternative upgrade paths. Now I can leave everything intact and not spend a single unnecessary cent! Being a tightwad FTW.
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28. August 2012 @ 08:35 |
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So far so good with my ZM850-HP after 3y7m. Although this is more common nowadays, that was about the first PSU to be able to provide up to 700W DC at less than 15dB in an open-box environment, such as that provided by the HAF 932.
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28. August 2012 @ 08:46 |
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Sam, your 850w be quiet is still going fine aswell. To be honest these components have been fine for a long time now. I haven't made major changes in a long time.
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28. August 2012 @ 08:49 |
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Only because you're underloading it!
That unit has put me off ever using BeQuiets in the future. One faulty component wouldn't normally stop me from buying from a brand, but with PSUs you just can't afford to take chances.
What amuses me is that I've recommended countless Corsair PSUs over the years, and still do in some cases, yet I've only ever owned one for less than a year. Pursuit for performance with silence has led me to other brands. Apart from the fan controllers, the hardware inside my gaming PC is essentially unchanged for more than 18 months, and a lot of it is older than that...
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28. August 2012 @ 08:50 |
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Well Bulldozer OCs fairly well and he wants me to do it for him so that's part of my fee. Not a bad trade considering the 1090T hold 4GHz effortlessly and I am confident it goes higher.
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28. August 2012 @ 08:54 |
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Even if you had to pay a little I'd go for it Jeff.
To be honest I'm still shocked this mobo hasn't given up the ghost considering it's been 4 years now.
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28. August 2012 @ 09:05 |
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My April 2008 X38-DS4 is still functional although the onboard NIC is shall we say 'network unsafe' (i.e. it brings down an entire network if plugged in!), and one of the rear audio ports doesn't work. Still, although it's not running anything overclocked, it's still perfectly stable in a normal environment. Has only very recently been retired as my main server board after serving that role for a little over 2 1/2 years, then having been displaced from the gaming PC after about 18 months' service there.
The July 2009 X48-DS4 is still as far as I can tell faultless, and has recently been introduced as the board for my server after running the anciliary machine for the last 2 1/2 years, and the gaming PC for its first 7 months (and a month or two later on during the diagnostic period of the 5970s we do not speak of!)
The February 2010 P55A-UD4 is still going strong with the i5 750 @ 4.116Ghz - there are some odd things going on with the NIC, but I'm pretty sure this is software and 'reformat time' rather than anything wrong with the board.
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