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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition
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22. October 2010 @ 12:54 |
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Control panel - > User accounts and family safety - > Change your windows password - > Remove your windows password
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22. October 2010 @ 13:04 |
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And drivers...I have had luck doing a windows update and letting it update hardware along with software. One time i installed win7 without any driver input, just allowing windows every update. It did well, except for gfx card and most of us have a gfx card and installs the driver before checking all the "minor" drivers so i guess its not really an issue.
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22. October 2010 @ 17:30 |
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22. October 2010 @ 17:31 |
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Haha, I'm really not a miserable person IRL, honest!
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22. October 2010 @ 17:47 |
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I am LOL! I'll get over it :p I hate my job...
Found a winner. Not sure who messed up, but The billing information was posted after midnight, so I won't get my 40mm fan til monday. That's too late. My brother's having a party tomorrow night, so I've had to think outside the box. I have a spare 60mm x 60mm x 10mm that I can hot glue to the heatsink ever so carefully. Which is fine. It seems to be doing as good or better at cooling the NB, then the 70mm fan I experimented with. I believe its hitting at least another 1500rpms. However, its rather loud. At least right next to it. Thankfully the frequency doesn't carry more than 10ft :S Music will no doubt be playing semi loud, so it's not a big deal. As long as it doesn't crash ;)
In the future, I'll definitely be more choosy about which HTPC case I choose. This ones airflow depends too much on the PSU for exhaust. NOT good...
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22. October 2010 @ 19:48 |
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cincyrob,
Unfortunately for people who like to password windows, or set up profiles, your password can be exploited to lock you out of your own windows. With XP, it would render your wallpaper only, and the mouse pointer would move, but not be able to do anything, as the click is disabled. You can't even get into the task manager as the keyboard keys are rendered inoperable. There are no icons on the screen, just your wallpaper. I came across this twice with Vista, and you had to completely wipe the drive before you could even run the restore disk that came with that laptop, with the first one, and was able to use the AVG recovery disk to repair it on the second one. The only difference was that the first laptop sat for months, while the other one was brought to me immediately after failing to get it to work in two tries. I gather from that, the more times you try, the worse it gets. That second particular computer was the only one I've ever been able to recover in about a dozen tries. If you try and access the HDD with a boot disk and make changes with the edit command, the drive is locked. Ugly sucker!
Best Regards,
Russ
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23. October 2010 @ 05:33 |
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Well, I changed my sound system with another, and the problem is still there, so I guess the next thing to do is to install a dedicated digital audio card and see if the problem still persists. If that doesn't work, I'll pull it all apart and change the CPU. I've saved that for last, because it's the most work, and I'm not sure if the CPU is any good, as it came out of a blown motherboard. I didn't even realize that I had it as it was still in the motherboard socket. It doesn't seem to matter what the media is, and it does the same thing when talking on Yahoo messenger. It sound for all the world like a stuck CD, repeating the same sound very rapidly, like a machine gun and then continuing on. There's an awful lot of electronic noises that occur at random, but never occur in the same places, so I figure that I can discount the media entirely.
Stay Tuned,
Russ
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23. October 2010 @ 15:44 |
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yeah that doesn't sound like the media at all; my money's on the cpu.
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23. October 2010 @ 17:41 |
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A bad cpu causes an audio problem only? That would be pretty strange indeed :/
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23. October 2010 @ 17:57 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
yeah that doesn't sound like the media at all; my money's on the cpu.
Red_Maw,
My money was too! I got up enough energy this morning to put the AM2 3800+ lima in it, and then the 630 Quad! Verdict is the motherboard. I've changed everything there is to change with known good components, and it still does the same thing. That motherboard was discontinued very early on, and now I'm really beginning to wonder why. There's nothing left to change but the Case and fans. I took the CPU, Memory, PSU, and ODD out of Oxi, and installed the spare 7300GTS video card. I have an HDD Pre-loaded with XP, actually I have two. 1 for Intel and 1 for AMD! That doesn't leave very much doubt!
I think given the economy right now, it's not a good time to be buying Computer components. In the past 2 months I've had 5 motherboards with problems besides my own. 1 Gigabyte, 1 Foxconn, 1 Asrock and 2 Biostars. I also had an Asus that was 3 months old that I didn't build, someone wanted me to replace under warranty because he couldn't locate the builder. I told him that I had no way that I could do that. All were brand new builds, less than a couple of months old. All of them had problems that seem to relate to third party components, like sound chips, on board video, Lan chips, and stuff like that. Realtek, J.Micron, Intel, AMD/Ati, nVidia, you name it! It seems like many of the manufacturers are trying to save money. After going over all the motherboard reviews, it seems that the failure rate is going up for all of them! I even replaced a CPU mount on a 5 month old Asus AMD motherboard. It broke the plastic cooler mount on one side. He said he heard this loud snap and the computer blue screened! I guess even the plastic quality is going down because I've never had to replace one of those before. It appears that everybody is cutting corners these days! Not a good sign at all!
Best Regards,
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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23. October 2010 @ 17:59 |
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All PC components are badly made, with almost no exceptions at all. This has been the case for the duration of my life spent working with computers, though admittedly it pales in comparison to yours. I put it down to everything being built in China by slave labour. You've presumably heard about the suicide nets Foxconn installed to their offices?
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23. October 2010 @ 18:03 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
All PC components are badly made, with almost no exceptions at all. This has been the case for the duration of my life spent working with computers, though admittedly it pales in comparison to yours. I put it down to everything being built in China by slave labour. You've presumably heard about the suicide nets Foxconn installed to their offices?
I really should look at the glass as half full...
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23. October 2010 @ 21:07 |
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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Originally posted by sammorris:
All PC components are badly made, with almost no exceptions at all. This has been the case for the duration of my life spent working with computers, though admittedly it pales in comparison to yours. I put it down to everything being built in China by slave labour. You've presumably heard about the suicide nets Foxconn installed to their offices?
I really should look at the glass as half full...
Oman7,
I'm with you there! Helps preserve the sanity! I also can't blame Gigabyte for a bad Realtek sound chip, and I think I was more than thorough enough in my testing as to eliminate anything else.
Russ
GigaByte 990FXA-UD5 - AMD FX-8320 @4.0GHz @1.312v - Corsair H-60 liquid CPU Cooler - 4x4 GB GSkill RipJaws DDR3/1866 Cas8, 8-9-9-24 - Corsair 400-R Case - OCZ FATAL1TY 550 watt Modular PSU - Intel 330 120GB SATA III SSD - WD Black 500GB SATA III - WD black 1 TB Sata III - WD Black 500GB SATA II - 2 Asus DRW-24B1ST DVD-Burner - Sony 420W 5.1 PL-II Suround Sound - GigaByte GTX550/1GB 970 Mhz Video - Asus VE247H 23.6" HDMI 1080p Monitor
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23. October 2010 @ 22:17 |
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For sure the chances are that you will see a few dead parts here and there. But PC parts as a whole being badly made? I don't see it so broadly. Electronic parts on this scale are highly complex and it's only natural they would have a higher failure rate. A lot of that can be attributed to cutting corners, but most of it is the law of averages. Gigabyte boards still seem universally nice. It is indeed not Gigabyte's fault for bad 3red party chips. Realtek is well established and should better control their product quality.
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23. October 2010 @ 22:27 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
Something i just stumbled on to try ~ How to Synchronize Your XBMC Media Center Between Every Room in the House
I've used XBMC on xboxes (old type) and PC's for about 3yrs now, and it's great, but am amazed to see that someone has done some MySQL tweakery to allow XBMC syncing. Will be trying this out sometime in the week..
Robocopy syntax i've been using in case anyone finds a use for it ~
robocopy K:\ L:\ /E /Z /COPY:DAT /XN /XO /V
~ copies all from K: to L: and ignores existing files. It's a great time saver (only about 600GB to go!)
Thanks for pointing out robocopy creaky, it is a great time saver. Used it for my backup this evening and it worked almost flawlessly. Only problem I ran into is it tried to copy of the system volume information and ended up in a loop since it didn't have permission.
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23. October 2010 @ 22:37 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
For sure the chances are that you will see a few dead parts here and there. But PC parts as a whole being badly made? I don't see it so broadly. Electronic parts on this scale are highly complex and it's only natural they would have a higher failure rate. A lot of that can be attributed to cutting corners, but most of it is the law of averages. Gigabyte boards still seem universally nice. It is indeed not Gigabyte's fault for bad 3red party chips. Realtek is well established and should better control their product quality.
I've been pretty fortunate myself. 7 motherboards in under 4 yrs, and only 1 of them went tits up. 4 Gigabytes and 3 MSI's. It was an MSI that went Tits up. Probably the Nforce chipset that was buggy too. I've been hearing that they're not the best of chipsets. And my remaining MSI that also has an Nforce chipset, requires extreme cooling to boost its longevity. It really doesn't bother me though. The board gave me 3+ yrs. In my scheme of things, a year is about all I care for. Then the old board becomes a secondary or secondaries secondary LOL! Though next upgrade, I'll likely sell the 790X board. along with the 940 phenom. Probably pretty cheap too. I'm just that way. Probably offer AD users first. THEN ebay ;)
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24. October 2010 @ 01:10 |
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Can anyone tell me why when I installed Malwarebytes on my neighbor's computer there is a phantom see through security shield on the desktop icon? Is there something I need to do? I hate Vista and all it's security BS!
Thanks,
Russ
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24. October 2010 @ 01:42 |
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Check your pm's russ. I just made your day ;)
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24. October 2010 @ 04:23 |
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Originally posted by Red_Maw:
Originally posted by creaky:
Something i just stumbled on to try ~ How to Synchronize Your XBMC Media Center Between Every Room in the House
I've used XBMC on xboxes (old type) and PC's for about 3yrs now, and it's great, but am amazed to see that someone has done some MySQL tweakery to allow XBMC syncing. Will be trying this out sometime in the week..
Robocopy syntax i've been using in case anyone finds a use for it ~
robocopy K:\ L:\ /E /Z /COPY:DAT /XN /XO /V
~ copies all from K: to L: and ignores existing files. It's a great time saver (only about 600GB to go!)
Thanks for pointing out robocopy creaky, it is a great time saver. Used it for my backup this evening and it worked almost flawlessly. Only problem I ran into is it tried to copy of the system volume information and ended up in a loop since it didn't have permission.
Funny you should mention that, i fell foul of that problem myself a couple nights ago. Very annoying but i just adapted the syntax to copy only the folders i wanted, but as you might have found out, there's also syntax to specifically exclude folders. One thing to be vey careful of are the Purge and Mirror options, use theose incorrectly and you'll lose files from the source drive if they don't exist on the destination drive.
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24. October 2010 @ 09:45 |
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Jeff: I disagree, the most complex and theoretically the most difficult parts to make, CPUs, are pretty reliable the majority of the time. There is no reason for solid state electronics to fail really, if there is no environmental damage.
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24. October 2010 @ 15:32 |
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Originally posted by creaky:
One thing to be vey careful of are the Purge and Mirror options, use theose incorrectly and you'll lose files from the source drive if they don't exist on the destination drive.
It's a good think you mentioned that, I almost used the mirror feature on a another drive under the impression it only removed files from the destination drive (i.e. made the destination drive a mirror of the source). Think I'll stick to standard copying for now lol.
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24. October 2010 @ 16:01 |
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Don't give up so easily :), i love Windows copy/paste as much as anyone, but robocopy's too clever to give up on so easily. I got around the problem with the /XN & /XO combination. Normally i'd fire up a linux machine, share the source & destination drives or folders, and fire up a bit of command line syntax, this way i get to do the command line thing without firing up another machine. I suppose i could install VirtualBox or a.n.other virtual machine program, but i tend to shy away from them, i prefer a real, tangible machine. There's nothing to learn if a virtual machine breaks, at least if a real machine breaks it takes a bit of fixing. Maybe that's just me though :).
Another reason i keep CPU cycles free on my main machine though is that i run Seti@Home/MilkyWay@Home the whole time the machine is on, i'd rather my cores are doing something constructive for their entire uptime.
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24. October 2010 @ 22:58 |
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I didn't mean I was giving up on robocopy, just the /MIR option.
When F@H quit working for me I started running World Community Grid and often don't even turn my rig off at night lately so it can keep crunching :\
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27. October 2010 @ 15:32 |
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just bought a WD20EARS over the OCZ vertex2E 60GB SSD.
realised i will get it (intel G3) next year, with the sandybridge/bulldozer, and hopefully 7 series.
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27. October 2010 @ 16:40 |
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So far I have no complaints about the WD20EARS. Though it may be the culprit for a failed BD burn recently. There was a curious I/O error. Given the expensive media that BD is, it makes it difficult to trouble shoot. It would cost me roughly 30 - 50 USD, to determine what's going on... with probably no left over discs. Where as dvds, I could spend that much and have probably 50 - 100 left over...
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