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The Official PC building thread - 4th Edition
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23. July 2013 @ 01:37 |
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23. July 2013 @ 03:02 |
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It doesn't make coffee what good is it. LOL That thing is huge you could use it as a server plus. WOW.... :P
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23. July 2013 @ 04:51 |
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Trouble is, it's not a lot cheaper than a proper server case, and a hell of a lot less practical :P
There's definitely a benefit to being able to cram loads of drives into an otherwise gaming PC, but they do become very difficult to move once you do that!
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23. July 2013 @ 11:36 |
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Trouble is, it's not a lot cheaper than a proper server case, and a hell of a lot less practical :P
There's definitely a benefit to being able to cram loads of drives into an otherwise gaming PC, but they do become very difficult to move once you do that!
*Ahem*ThermalTakeArmor*Ahem*
The Armor is a good case, I still have mine put away for future builds :) But it's exactly like you describe, very much a faux server case. It has a rather large drive bay plus a couple drive bays hidden throughout the case for stealthing them in. Mine is the very old fashioned one though with outdated fan placement. Very old, was already very dated when purchased in 2006. Somewhat flimsy as well, a bit worse than the HAF. I upgraded to the HAF though and never looked back. I don't care if a case is cheap as long as it's solid and works.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
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25. July 2013 @ 11:17 |
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Just thought you guys might like to know about a little upgrade I managed. Got a pair of Sunon 120mm 38mm wide 2400RPM server fans and attached them to my Hyper 212 Evo. Big fat high RPM fans for those of you who aren't familiar. They're quite loud but not at a grating frequency, and the results are hard to argue with. Upgraded from 2 x 65CMF to 2 x 85CFM.
6 hours of Prime95:
Temp0 = ambient, Temp1 = CPU thermistor on motherboard, Temp2 = Chipset
I can easily live with the noise for those results :)
I'm going to be building a ducting system for them to the rear exhaust fan. I might find a way to rig a ducted intake fan as well. I am also cutting out all the pre-punched fan grills on the HAF and replacing them with steel wire grills.
Part of this will also be figuring out a way to attach a Fan to the northbridge heatsink. Alternatively I'm trying to find my dead 790X board and pull the cooler from that. The holes are right but I never bothered to switch them.
Nothing really big. Just got digging through a buddy's parts bins and got some ideas and a little modding motivation going.
I do eventually plan on a 990-UD3 board and a new single or pair of video cards. A single 7970 looks mighty tempting, but a pair of 2GB 7850s would shut me up for quite a while :)
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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25. July 2013 @ 11:31 |
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Or you could stick it out until christmas and buy an HD9970 :) (not a typo)
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25. July 2013 @ 11:37 |
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The future is not set in stone ;)
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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25. July 2013 @ 11:58 |
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Man, the chipset temps make me nuts!!! They're always the highest. Glad to see I'm not alone here :p I'd really like to focus on that with my next board.
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25. July 2013 @ 12:00 |
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Move along, nothing to see here... :D
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25. July 2013 @ 12:01 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Move along, nothing to see here... :D
Are you suggesting your temps are fine? Or that what has been seen in Jeff's results is trivial?
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25. July 2013 @ 12:13 |
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Omega, Sam is referring to the fact that Intel boards have no Northbridge, thus he has no worries about the temps or heat output into the case. The Northbridge is on the CPU.
My board has a skimpy cooler. Currently those chipset temps are WELL within my comfort zone. As long as it never even takes a single glance at 60 degrees, I won't ever worry too much about it. Again, I have several ideas in the works for improving my cooling. Part of that will be swapping the cooler from the 790X board. The heatsinks on my current board even have the spots where a heatpipe would attach. Hopefully, I can find it and make the swap. If not that, I have several small fans sitting here, some quite high flow for relatively little noise. The server fans are quite enough to where anything more will start to be truly noisy.
I also have some plans for ducting in the works. 140mm front and rear intake, with a duct leading through the cooler. A little wind tunnel action, from front to back of case.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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25. July 2013 @ 12:18 |
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Not suggesting your chipset is hot, just noticing is all. I've had mine come close to 60. Ever since, I watch it like a hawk. And I've entertained cooling that area multiple times. Ultimately, the HAF could probably use better pressure monitoring. Intake/exhaust could probably use an update/overhaul.
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25. July 2013 @ 13:01 |
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If I try to push for 4GHz mine will go to 60 reliably which I feel is a limiting factor in my OC ability.
As far as airflow, there's not much on the market with the size and customizability of the HAF in its price range. Maybe consider 4 x 120mm fans on the side? That would certainly drop your Northbridge temps ;)
The stock fan configuration with the very weak CoolerMaster fans is hardly the limit of its capabilities. I'm considering moving the top 250mm to the side panel and putting 4 mild fans(cheap CM case fans) on the top myself. Not entirely sure what I want to do. The possibilities have hardly been tapped :D
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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25. July 2013 @ 13:06 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
If I try to push for 4GHz mine will go to 60 reliably which I feel is a limiting factor in my OC ability.
As far as airflow, there's not much on the market with the size and customizability of the HAF in its price range. Maybe consider 4 x 120mm fans on the side? That would certainly drop your Northbridge temps ;)
The stock fan configuration with the very weak CoolerMaster fans is hardly the limit of its capabilities. I'm considering moving the top 250mm to the side panel and puting 4 fans on the top myself. Not entirely sure what I want to do. The possibilities have hardly been tapped :D
I've entertained such things. 4 * 120's. I plan to calculate all factors involved, in making the pressure damn close to perfect. Probably slightly more exhaust, than intake, to be on the safe side ;) My current board I plan to experiment with either mineral oil, or a peltier cooler. I won't care too much about this board when the time comes. It's served its purpose, and exceeded my expectations.
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25. July 2013 @ 13:19 |
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I prefer positive pressure to keep down on dust buildup, but that also means I have to pay closer attention to individual components, lest I develop hotspots with stale air. The HAF's open design makes that a bit easier though. Kinda hard to develop any sort of pressure or stale spots with a wide open mesh covering most of the case.
4 x 120s would definitely be a safe bet for a HAF. Any combination of fans will easily push much more air than the stock 250 and give your motherboard plenty of breathing air, so to speak. It can make a drastic difference. I'm using a single CoolerMaster 140mm case fan in a custom cut panel right now, so moving up to one of the CoolerMaster 250mm case fans would be somewhat of an upgrade for me.
I could go out and buy a bunch of fans first, but I'd like to exhaust the already available parts before I go dropping money. The Sunon 2400RPM server fans were free, and all the material for the ducting will be free as well. I will definitely be posting pictures of that little mod very soon. Planning it out and fabbing it up today :D
This motherboard has more than served its purpose as well. Doesn't mean I can't continue to improve it ;)
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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25. July 2013 @ 14:42 |
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25. July 2013 @ 15:35 |
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25. July 2013 @ 17:21 |
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This again? haha. Have fun with that guys.
I got a blue LED Yate Loon 140mm fan out of a dead Best Buy power supply. Looked up the specs and it's roughly equivalent to the Cooler Master case fans, all 1400RPM and 65CFM. Middle of the road-ish. Added it as a front intake in the drive bay to feed the larger cooler fans. Got a prime95 drop of 2-3*C on both CPU and Northbridge :) All wired in like a pro.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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25. July 2013 @ 17:29 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
This again? haha. Have fun with that guys.
Are you telling me you don't dream of having the best of the best? :)
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25. July 2013 @ 17:34 |
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Read my edit. I'm taking my cooling in new directions. I have a passion for getting the best with what I can scavenge. I would call it frugality if it weren't so satisfying to do.
Also, my monitor is satisfactory for my needs :)
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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25. July 2013 @ 17:40 |
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Originally posted by Estuansis:
Read my edit. I'm taking my cooling in new directions. I have a passion for getting the best with what I can scavenge. I would call it frugality if it weren't so satisfying to do.
Ha ha, I can appreciate that. I have so much hardware laying around, I could probably improve my situation with what I already have. Sometimes it just easier to read statistics online, and click the buy button :S
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25. July 2013 @ 18:03 |
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Yeah but this one's a Dell Ultrasharp, rather than an obscure foreign brand, a Japan import-only model or an Asus. I know they still use the same panel, but still. It's my hope that Dell manufacturing the display will lead to it being a bit more mainstream and therefore slowly coming down in price. Seriously though, as I've said before, 'cool' as it'll be, this isn't for gaming, it's almost exclusively for the unbroken desktop real estate it offers.
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25. July 2013 @ 18:33 |
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I just got my 4GHz. It was a lack of cooling power holding me down :)
NorthBridge speed is at 2600MHz. NB is needed to attain stability and offers large performance benefits with diminishing returns above 2600MHz.
CPU-NB - 1.15->1.25v
CPU-VID - 1.325->1.525v
Memory - 1.52->1.56v as Thubans sometimes require a voltage bump on memory when NB is OC'd.
1.525v is the highest I am comfortable with, and the temp seems to agree. I will be doing a few more mods before this is done, or it probably won't hold stable in the long run. They have a pre-defined ceiling. It's all influenced by cooling for Phenom IIs. The cooler, the less voltage needed, the cooler, haha.
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 4GHz(20 x 200) 1.5v 3000NB 2000HT, Corsair Hydro H110 w/ 4 x 140mm 1500RPM fans Push/Pull, Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5, 8GB(2 x 4GB) G.Skill RipJaws DDR3-1600 @ 1600MHz CL9 1.55v, Gigabyte GTX760 OC 4GB(1170/1700), Corsair 750HX
Detailed PC Specs: http://my.afterdawn.com/estuansis/blog_entry.cfm/11388
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26. July 2013 @ 11:54 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Well, what I've been waiting for has finally been announced!
http://www.techspot.com/news/53343-dell...ving-in-q4.html
Time to start saving :/
I'd be surprised if this falls short of $3000 upon release.
Sammy I hope you have a great paying job, I to would love to have one of these bad boys, but I would have to sell drugs on a street corner to afford one.
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26. July 2013 @ 12:08 |
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Heh, I wish. Going to be a long hard slog to save up that sort of money...
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