Originally posted by ddp:

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Mr-Movies, what "other tablets"?

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Originally posted by ddp:

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had to do that on a 2 or 3yr old mac pro laptop that either the operating system screwed up or the hard drive was developing bad spot. had to pull the drive out & run a data recovery program on it to retrieve the data the customer's daughter didn't get around to backing up. 205gigs & 27hrs later it was done.

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Originally posted by FredBun:

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Some time ago if anybody remembers I made friends with a computer repair shop owner in my neighborhood, I often visit my friend named Boris the owner, hanging around on weekends sometimes I see tons of laptops come in, I have seen so many different brands come in for repair or people ask Boris if he would be interested in buying their used laptops which he does often, he repairs and sells them, and only once did I see an Asus come in, I asked him why, he said they last longer, better made and most of all are easier to repair than all others, nice layout and roomier to work with.

I'm sure everybody else has their own opinion on which is best but watching with my own eyes the story speaks for itself, I also have learned when a Mac comes in is when I see Boris's face cringe, again I asked why, he answered hardly any room to work with than I saw for myself he was not bull crapping, taken them apart looked like a nightmare.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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I think a primary reason for that is the price though. If an Asus-manufactured N10 is cheaper (which it could well be) then that's as good a reason as any.

An Asus product is no good to me personally because I really don't want the time and effort sending stuff back every 6 months. The 10 has become such an integral device for me at work that I can't afford to be in the position where any minute I could be left without use of the device. Carrying two 10" tablets around for sake of contingency really isn't very practical.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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We've had all three 2012-gen Nexus devices in the household, the 4 is a recent acquisition so time will tell on that, the 10 still works perfectly 10 months in, the 7 lasted about 6 months, which is roughly about the mean lifetime of all the other Asus products I've owned over the years. I was rather hoping it being a google device would improve the reliability but obviously not.

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as long as you don't let them put their awful software on it

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Originally posted by shaffaaf:

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what can i say, but i have seen the oposite of sam with asus.

but my sample is limited to msyself and a few mates.


recently, i acquired an HTC one, which was an odd change form the nexus deviced i had been using from the Nexus S. I honestly thought my nexus 4 couldnt be usurped. I enjoed the HTC one for a month, and gave it back, as it was just temporary. going back to my nexus 4 has been hell.

The screen is pitiful in comparison, the speakers are aweful, and just in general it seems to be a rubbish phone when compared. Never every thought i would say that, but i think i have been converted to HTC :S

now for my hope to see a nexus HTC device this side of the pond.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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Originally posted by FredBun:

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Some time ago if anybody remembers I made friends with a computer repair shop owner in my neighborhood, I often visit my friend named Boris the owner, hanging around on weekends sometimes I see tons of laptops come in, I have seen so many different brands come in for repair or people ask Boris if he would be interested in buying their used laptops which he does often, he repairs and sells them, and only once did I see an Asus come in, I asked him why, he said they last longer, better made and most of all are easier to repair than all others, nice layout and roomier to work with.

I'm sure everybody else has their own opinion on which is best but watching with my own eyes the story speaks for itself, I also have learned when a Mac comes in is when I see Boris's face cringe, again I asked why, he answered hardly any room to work with than I saw for myself he was not bull crapping, taken them apart looked like a nightmare.

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Many years ago, around 2002-2004 that was true. This is how Asus' reputation was built. Since around 2006, however, they've been selling filth at the same premium price and for some reason people still keep buying it. You can't deal with unexpected failures of course, but there's a difference between having a product that suddenly fails, and having one that you know will fail any minute but you've no idea when - it produces a whole different mentality. It's something I'm glad I'm rid of in the PC sector, and having left Asus behind have now finally got to the stage where I have several PCs all reaching quite considerable age (3-5 years) yet are still perfectly reliable enough for daily use. The days of replacing motherboards every few months are not days I miss. The same is true for mobile devices. Why would I put myself through that sort of experience all over again?

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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Depends what I needed the laptop for - there'd have to be a specific reason to spend as much as 1000USD let alone 1000GBP.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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My main issue with Dell is that the keyboards they use are very poor nowadays on laptops. There's no real 'magic bullet' best solid brand any more these days - Thinkpads were good in the past, not sure about now. Toshiba Satellites were pretty good from a hardware standpoint, but tend to have quite unreliable software.

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Originally posted by sammorris:

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Well, I don't have a singular answer, otherwise I would gladly have given it to you. I have used a fair few laptops belonging to clients, friends etc. but never actually owned one for personal use, so as far as 'what it's like to live with' I'm not too qualified to say. As I say, I'd avoid the obvious cheap nasties like Acer, Asus should go without saying by now, and in all honesty I'm not too wowed by the quality of Vaio laptops either. I know people that have had good experience with Toshiba Satellite laptops - we've had a Dell Vostro in the family and it really isn't that well made. It all works after 5 years, but if it weren't for how slow it was out of the box I'd assume it faulty for how slow it is now :P It was very cheap though, and it was given Vista :/

Best laptop we've had is a Compaq nx6110 which is almost 8 years old, has lived in a workshop environment caked in filth for 5 of those years, and apart from having memory added to it to improve performance, hasn't had anything done to it at all. Seriously solid equipment those were, but unfortunately I think the days of HP producing stuff like that are over.

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